A very good gesture,hope,this will give a new exposure to our military. Such events should be taken up in sportsmans spirit. Todays war is on economic front, time has gone to capture someones area. If China, Pak and other neighbours are closer, everyone will prosper.
Very few know the real story of what happened in 1962 forty five years letter., what went wrong. Successive governments have refused to release the Henderson-Brooks report that investigated the lapses of 1962.The British imperialists did draw an illegal McMahon Line, but they dared not occupy in reality the territories of China to the south of that line. But the Nehru government did just that. n 1960, the Nehru government not only refused publicly to negotiate with Premier Zhou Enlai who made a special trip to New Delhi to seek a friendly settlement of boundary issue, but rejected any standstill agreement.
In October 1962, Nehru ordered the army to take the offensive and made a statement about it on the 12th of the same month. His statement shocked the whole world. The New York Herald Tribune published an editorial entitled 'Nehru Declares A War Against China' the following day. China had no intention to solve the boundary issue by force, which was proved by the fact that as soon as the PLA won the war, it returned to its original posts.
But how did the Nehru government explain the event to the Indian public? It had no courage to admit its mistakes and tell the truth, but adopted dishonest and irrational means to blame it on China, saying China conducted an "unprovoked aggression" against India, and China "betrayed India". It was Rajiv Gandhi, who undone what his grand-pa did. With his personal visit to China. the relations improved.
RE:Coming out of the Shadow of 1962 is good.
by arungopal agarwal on Dec 21, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
Mr. Ashok,yes, you have done a analysis. We are to accept the reality in order to achieve economic competitiveness.
RE:Coming out of the Shadow of 1962 is good.
by ashok chavda on Dec 21, 2007 04:38 PM Permalink
thank you sir, read my post about MacMohan line and am in the process of posting few more facts.
RE:Coming out of the Shadow of 1962 is good.
by Abhik RayChaudhury on Dec 21, 2007 11:30 PM Permalink
It seems to me you (Ashok Chavda) read 'India's China War' and quoting from it. While I can not get into all your claims I must remind you that while the Chinese did went back to pre-war position in the east (NEFA) they did not do the same in the western sector. Though they overran a lot of territory in the NEFA, it would have been impossible for them to hold onto it for long as these areas are close to indian plains.
RE:Coming out of the Shadow of 1962 is good.
by Major Sassy on Dec 21, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
Oye commie... the line was between Tibet and India and not China and India.
You are justifying rape and murder of Buddhists in Tibet destruction of their culture and ethnic cleansing.
People like you will give India to Chinese if they say "oo Illegal line drawn by brits"
RE:RE:Coming out of the Shadow of 1962 is good.
by Adi Mairanhindi on Dec 21, 2007 05:42 PM Permalink
@sassy: if that is so then why is the Henderson Report not being shown to the public even after 50 yrs ? Let us accept the stupidity of our leaders instead of blaming everyone of betraying us.
RE:Coming out of the Shadow of 1962 is good.
by Major Sassy on Dec 21, 2007 05:56 PM Permalink
Henderson committe report is not on the matters leading up to the war but what happened during the war
RE:Indian army eill be defeated by Chinese army in this battle
by Orion Arhan on Dec 21, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
I said chineese are subhumans and one son of this subhuman is with us and he report abused. What rediff moderator and reporter, what is the connection between you and subhumans?
this exercise is akin to a movie venture with main cast being jackie chan and our super star rajni....
but while we go about this exercise, we are literally closing our doors once for all to uncle sam..and am sure, if it happens and if the chinese engage us in war, we would be helpless..if the US doesnt side with us, then rest of the super powers folow suit..even russia sides with china, even though we have strategic aliance with them.....
RE:jacke chan and rajni???
by Orion Arhan on Dec 21, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
A good thought. But backing china leaving US in crunch is not at possible at least for next 100 years. In cold-war we have russia and in hot-war we have US. In Heavenly-war it will be pak-china.
RE:jacke chan and rajni???
by Biswajit Ghoshal on Dec 21, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
No buddy - only a few months ago we had joint military air drill with USA. These are peace time goodwill military activities only. Besides China has much better ties with US, than us... so nothing to worry about.
RE:jacke chan and rajni???
by veerapuram dharan on Dec 21, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
of course, there might be genuine reasons for this exercise.but in the long run, given the almost rejected nuke deal with US, any tie up with china will only divide the military ties we have with US..US is never a friend of china.given the chinese human rights violation records and their economic rise will only be a cause of worry for the US...
RE:Whats The Puurpose Of Such Exercise?
by veerapuram dharan on Dec 21, 2007 04:18 PM Permalink
the reason is if there is a common menace being faced by many countries or if there need to show once military might, which u have rightly mentioned, this kinda exercise takes place..but am sure, any military tie up with china will be of no use to us...
RE:Whats The Puurpose Of Such Exercise?
by super success on Dec 21, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
see if u do exercise after long time it can reduce the tension in your muscle and after all exercise is good for your body isn't it.
RE:Whats The Puurpose Of Such Exercise?
by Orion Arhan on Dec 21, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
I think subhumans wants to know what humans will do when there is a threat perception.
yOU PEOPLE WHO ENJOY YOUR LIFE IN ARM CHAIR DO NOT HAVE AN IOTA OF IDEA WHAT MILITARY TRAINNING IS AND HOW IT BENIFITS IN ACTUAL WAR.Each army has their own protocal for a particulat action It was not possible before to have any idea even through secret service the finer points of different concept in dealing with any given area of action.Sand model discussion and within the country practices are common.When you have to perform along with different mode of practice you ot only value your strength but also go to the finer points which have been employed by the opponent.Recently our Air Forces learnt a lot from the US air combat and the US accepted the superior mindset power of our pilots to mach them with their superior aircraft and fire power Coffee hopuse discussion and warm chair openion on service requirement is nothing but opening your mouth as stupid.Educate yourself at least through many Miliraty books and then speak.You dont have guts to join those brave and till such time at least educate yourself so that you dont stink when you open your mouth on these subject One must have some dignity to condem their own Prime Minister.So shameless these people are.
RE:How poor knowledge we have about MILITARY TRAINNING
by samir banerjee on Dec 21, 2007 05:38 PM Permalink
The point is simple.Traning has no barrier and no boundry.It always improves your skill and adds to your functional knowledge.Training is toughning.This may not come once in your carrier but once you face you know how to tacle it.This is rom the service manual in staff college or in any Military trainning center. ear a bullet sound from close quarter leave apart facing you will know what trainning is all about.It require a bit of gray matter to understand.
Chinese are cunningly trying to stop India catching up them in economic development. That is the reason by pumping unknown crores to their proxy CPI(M), they have successfully thwarted India operationalising Nuclear deal with USA.
Power cut is already a big problem in most of the states in India. I think in next couple of years power cut will be a day-to-day affaire.I hope the Commus wake up to this reality.But i dont think its going to happen in wildest dream.Remember in 1965 Indian sorldirs were brutally murdered, the Commus praised lavishly the chinese victory.
RE:Chinese are worried lot
by super success on Dec 21, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
i don't think so because china is double the area of india. we have lot of problem to handle while they don't have any
RE:RE:Chinese are worried lot
by Major Sassy on Dec 21, 2007 04:28 PM Permalink
heee heeee heee heeee they have no problems you should visit a site called Bharat-rakshak look for threads on China
