What a wastage of time.When the people of the state has given their verdict which is been sealed within the electronic box and is expected to be out in couple of days why are you all debating on the futality of such excer size.None od us can change the verdict however horse we may cry so why waste time.
RE:The exit pool and the parties and people
by vintesh kumar saxena on Dec 21, 2007 02:08 PM Permalink
this is india dear.....people have much free time to these type of activity and if you call these type of people for some social work like cleaning of park they will show themself the busiest person......you know that's why india is great.....
If the English Media says that BJP will get 100 seats-which actually means that the party will get more than 125 seats. There are many examples that demonstrate over drive of anti Modi campaign by English Media. DNA Said-Modi was married and deserted his wife. All the evidence they have is a woman who said this obviously paid by the paper. ToI says Modi wanted to give party ticket to DIG Vanjara-but presents no evidence to support the allegation. It is the same paper which cooked up Modis statement on Sohrabuddin. Outlook said Modi made negative comments on Non Vegetarians a decade back-forgetting the fact that Modi himself is a non vegetarian and adapted vegetarian diet very recently. NDTV conducted a discssion with Modi baitors just a day before the election to influence the voters. CBB IBN ran a series of programs highlighting the vagaries of 2002 riot victims-but not a one on Godra train burning victims.
But people have given a big slap to these biased media by trehecting their propaganda.
RE:Media Bias
by Pop Head on Dec 18, 2007 07:04 PM Permalink
Modi badmouths and abuses his political opponents liberally. But when asked about the DNA report, he claimed up, tongue tied and went pale just as he did when asked to comment on Keshabhai Patel. So why does he do this if there is no truth. Can't he for own self-respect put matters where it should be.
And is terrorism ceased to be an issue. Why after voting, Modi is silent? Will be open his mouth again about terrorism only in 2112?
It seems that u have biasness against MODI..... That is what really speaking...... you can write about people who were killed in riots...... but have u ever thaught once about people killed in Sabarmati Express ....... shame on you that you have such a biased mind
Firstly, accepted during Sikh riots, there was only doordarshan, but dont they have footages of that riots? If no, why? You must be knowing the answer.
Putting the wrong thing in limelight is not the bias. Bias is why only BJP is suffered from that????
Look at dalit riots in Mumbai recently. dalits were burning the train, buses and Police was doing nothing. In Gujarat in less then three days Military was on roads. Situation was quite under control in less than a week. I was there at the time of riots, so I can say. You people know what this biased media propagate only. Why there is no news of Godhara burning, but only riots after that. Do u have any answer?????
Biased media should be banned. even if we have democracy, bcz future of democracy is based on media, and media just cant telecast anything other then truth.
RE:Media Bias
by Ravi Roy on Dec 18, 2007 05:52 PM Permalink
Perfect observation. In fact NDTV CNNIBN and AAjTak looked like some children made prepared to recite poetry for congress. I was just stunned to see the way NDTV was flashing some documentary movies which no one wants to revisit or memorize, showing shamelessly just like any communist/congress agent. There was no sense of constantly telecasting such shows just when election came there! Why don't they cover 1984 Sikh riots or Bhagalpur Riots???? Today's media has become political agents and ethicless. NDTV and CNN IBN must be in fact sued for the telecasts which they did and must be bycotted by public. They are yellow journalism channels who only show bad news about non-UPA led states even if all bad things happen in UPA led states!
RE:Media Bias
by Pop Head on Dec 18, 2007 06:59 PM Permalink
Why they didn't cover 1984 Sikh riots or Bhagalpur Riots? Easy - We only had Doordhasan then and no private channels then.
India is a free country. Boycott any channel you want. Why put yourself to torture to watch an English News channel and complain about it? Pathetic you Jehadi Hindus. You and your Jehadi Muslims are made for each other!
After media took it upon themselves that people were constantly reminded of the genocide of 2002, in which 790 Muslims and only 254 Hindus were killed, it is difficult to imagine any Muslim voting for Modi in the elections just concluded. Now, if Modi wins the elections, it will prove beyond all doubts that elections can be won without Muslim support. What will happen if some of the other political parties were to take note of this, and start consolidating Hindu votes! Secularism is going to be hit for a six, and well, after that we shall have a plausible explanation for increased terrorism.
RE:If Modi wins........
by Vasanth Srinivas on Dec 18, 2007 07:15 PM Permalink
Good Imagination. But not worth it. Now Indian Congress is playing the secularism ball. Then why this bloodshed here...? In 2007 we had more than 7 bomb blasts which killed hundreds of innocents. It is not about Secularism. If Babri Masjid demolition is the "root cause" of terrorism in India, what about kashmir issue which is ongoing right from the partition ? "Vande Mataram" is branded "Anti-Islamic" in 1917 itself!!! Where did the secularism come in picture. If secularism is to be "hit for a six", atleast, the real Indians can be safe. Else, all would die because of communal hatred. Just look back before 10 years. No one sees other person based on community. Now, because of the bomb blasts and the "public support" gained by them, every muslim is viewed as a terrorist, even if he is innocent. There are some fools who even add Abdul Kalam to these list. Secularism is equality to all. Not appeasing any one - Hindus or Muslims or any other minorities. First stop appeasing Muslims. Every problem will be solved.
RE:If Modi wins........
by calmer on Dec 19, 2007 01:56 PM Permalink
In the South, some 10-15 years before when there was discussions about disproportionate growth of Muslim population in India, The Hindu, another "secular" newspaper, wrote series after series of articles to "prove" that there was no disproportionate increase in Muslim population. Now after the last National Census, when it was proved beyond doubt that Muslim population had indeed increased disproportionately (from around 11% to over 15%), this same paper chose to remain completely silent on the issue! These are the weird says of the supposedly "secular" English press in India. People should take them to taks for these anti-national propaganda.
RE:If Modi wins........
by joe v on Dec 18, 2007 08:26 PM Permalink
true that.. The problem with this country is that level headed people like you and A.singh are quite few in number. Most of these dorkd just say "Kill all M's" and stuff like that without knowing the horrors of such things. I say that secularism is just in the minds of people. And at the moment, its already hit for sixes. If the people in this country want to kill each other, what can any government do?
BJP should ensure to check EVM machines. else immoral italian can do any thing. EC must allowed to check random samples of EVM after it placed at Voting place. else there will big fruad and proper people response will not reflect at counters. jai hind
RE:EVM
by mariappanpm on Dec 18, 2007 03:01 PM Permalink
A pathetic commentary by an admirer of BJP who has no basic knowledge of election and Governance.
The best recent example is nepal which was a hindu kingdome earlier, due to lazy and non development oriented rulers gave way to marxism/maoism which is another tool used to liberate forcing public to take to violence. It is for all indians aka who ever believes in hindustan (need not necessarily be thought as hindu land! my dear other indians) start correcting this fault. Take part in the elections being held in different states and in general elections in 2009 to reinstate the hinduism to its deserved throne of 'pride and impartial with supreme justice' done to every other religions prevalent in india. Dont worry about the development in india as we all know indias' development was never stopped during hindu dominant partys' rule but inturn it furthered it. All religions in this country only can practice in freedom and flourish. Flourishing minorities are the best example of this! Dont take chances now else will be no place to repent even :))
With growing islam in our backyard and the strong urge in them to convert other religions made the coutnries like singapore,malay,indonesia to embrace the religion or face death. whenever other races start rising they were brutally murdered like in 1969 bloodiest riots in malaysia. Being smaller counries, they were occupied by islamists. As the hindu rulers were not in a position to oversee the security of these vast kingdoms divided by seas,religions,casts, selfish motives, slowly gave away to the invasive religions.
As india was granted freedom,becoz it could successfully be divided it into two, the indian leaders being hindu at heart are always mercyful
that they allowed islamists to continue living in india though the very divide was done on the basis of religion represented by jinnah. So the place for hindus has belittled further. But the muslims on this side felt they would be more better here since they know the merciful attitude of hindus and denounced their Jannath (Pakistan).We know well india developed faster compared to Pakistan. This caused eye sore to pak, again invasive islamists matched with our internal enemies (not all muslims are bad at all) to see that india succumbs to anti nationalists and can be further divided into pieces which is now in action thanks to our selfish politicians dividing the hindu community to bc,sc,st what not. So india and religion might further be divided if we dont wake up least now.
RE:Firstly bring change in india - part2
by Pop Head on Dec 18, 2007 04:58 PM Permalink
You are misinformed. Muslims (viz Malays) are a tiny minority in Singapore. Majority (Chinese) are viz Buddhists and Confuscians. In the 1969 riots in Malaysia, the Chinese gave the Malays a bloody nose. The Chinese control the economies of all the countries (singapore, Malaysia & Indonesia.
When we come across the history of any south east asian country we will be reminded of its past as hindu kingdom be it burma, malaysia, singapore (singapura), indonesia (sumatra ), srilanka (asssociated with ramayan) and few other SAARC countries like pakistan, bangladesh, nepal, bhutan(partly) etc. But all this happened ages back.. start with harappa/mohenjadaro times to lates till vijayanagara empire (14th century AD) Slowly buddism and later islam took it over as sea of changes swept these most of these countries. History tells us that Islam talks of spreading its religion by any means. It vouches heaven for every one who gets killed for spreading their religion. So this very fundamentalism gave the believers to spread across the frontiers of continents and move eastern than to move west (europe etc) becoz they face excessive might of greeks,english and other religiously inclined people ( we know protestands-cathelic battles for supremacy). It is a fact that hindus didnt fight among themselves for their belief (be it a specific god, except dwaitha v.s advaitha but which is again not bloody battle)
So with little or no resistance from ancient hindus to the newer religions that stem from either west or Arabian lands, these newer religions soon found to be flourishing. This very reason of easy going with the religion by hindus has costed them highly and it is perennial effect is felt even in india, which is the birthplace for hinduism.
BJP fools are still depending on Exit polls. They were barking on everything. Parzania, Fire, Fana, artistes' creativity, NDTV, Aaj Tak, Amir Khan, MF Hussain, etc., they are not ready to see their face on mirror.
RE:BJP fools are still depending on Exit polls. They were barking on everything. Parzania, Fire, Fana, artistes' creativity, NDTV, Aaj Tak, Amir Khan, MF Hussain, etc., they are not ready to see their face on mirror.
by Pop Head on Dec 18, 2007 05:02 PM Permalink
Does this come as a surprise to you? These Talibanized Hindus live perpetually in a world of make believe. They are responsible for making Modi larger than life. They create fear psychosis. If Modi loses, the entire Gujurat economy will go down the drain. The famed Gujarati entreprenuership will disappear etc
RE:BJP fools are still depending on Exit polls. They were barking on everything. Parzania, Fire, Fana, artistes' creativity, NDTV, Aaj Tak, Amir Khan, MF Hussain, etc., they are not ready to see their face on mirror.
by Adi Mairanhindi on Dec 18, 2007 05:18 PM Permalink
Perhaps we could clone Stalin, Mao, Lenin and our own horror Nambudiripad and let them loose on Gujarat ! I bet both the Hindus and Muslims would be annihilated.
RE:BJP fools are still depending on Exit polls. They were barking on everything. Parzania, Fire, Fana, artistes' creativity, NDTV, Aaj Tak, Amir Khan, MF Hussain, etc., they are not ready to see their face on mirror.
by Pop Head on Dec 18, 2007 06:54 PM Permalink
Why delve on conjectures?