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In 'secular' parlance
by Mukesh Sharma on Dec 18, 2007 05:06 PM  Permalink 

In 'secular' parlance, Gujarat is the hotbed of Hindutva and nothing right ever happens there. In contrast, West Bengal is a model of 'secularism', home to a left-liberal society for about three decades under the 'ideal' rule of the CPI(M). Of course, this image of a progressive Government has suffered a setback in the wake of the atrocities in Nandigram. But the March 14 incident will soon be forgotten, just like the Tiananmen Square episode in China.

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Modi Vs Budhdev
by Atanu on Dec 18, 2007 04:44 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The Vibrant Gujarat Global Investors' Summit 2007 held in January has fetched the State proposals worth Rs 4,61,835 crore. Two years ago, a similar summit had generated proposals worth Rs 1,06,000 crore and the first of these summits, held in 2003 brought investment proposals worth Rs 66,000 crore. No wonder Mr Budhdev is forced to admit that while Mr Modi is getting huge investments, when West Bengal is struggling with the implementation of merely two major proposals - the Tata Motors' small car project and the Salem Group's chemical hub.
There is, however, a world of difference between the approaches of the two Chief Ministers. The Gujarat Chief Minister does his homework and each of his summits is preceded by a carefully orchestrated road show abroad on what Gujarat can offer. It is obvious that the healthy labour situation in the State and the pro-investment policies of its Government are also encouraging investors. Mr Modi has identified areas where investment will be worthwhile for entrepreneurs. He has coined the slogan: "Bring in a rupee and take back a dollar."
Besides, Mr Modi has no ideological hangover in securing investments. He has brought Chinese, as much as Singaporean and American, investments to his State. In the last summit, a Singaporean Minister was the guest of honour. The road shows that he organises ensure that his message reaches the right person.
Interestingly - this may also be disturbing for Mr Bhattacharjee - while West Bengal still struggle

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RE:Modi Vs Budhdev
by Patriot on Dec 18, 2007 04:52 PM  Permalink

I would say all paid members of BJP should stop the propoganda now.

As the elections are over.

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RE:Modi Vs Budhdev
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Dec 18, 2007 06:17 PM  Permalink
Exactly. We don't need election time to tell the truth. Truth will prevail. Modi will prevail.

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Our own Reflection
by Patriot on Dec 18, 2007 04:40 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Present state of Indian Politicians are extended faceof our own reflections.

While agreeing completely with the view that creations of Modi likes is our own fault. It is the duty of all intellectuals to lead and inform the common people out of these murky politics.

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RE:Our own Reflection
by Ankita Gupta on Dec 18, 2007 06:31 PM  Permalink
Mr Patriot

Why dont you say intellectuals to lead and inform the common people about the murky politics of Congress i.e. shahbano case, 1984 sikh killings, nandigram, 1962 china war, hindu killings of Kashmir, illegal bangladeshis, muslim banks, muslim courts and many more....

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RE:Our own Reflection
by purna on Dec 18, 2007 04:45 PM  Permalink
Nothing wrong in having a religion based, caste based parties as long as the constitution and 'rah niti' and 'ethics' are accepted by all.

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RE:Our own Reflection
by Patriot on Dec 18, 2007 04:50 PM  Permalink

Politics based on religion, caste and languages divide people and lead to unstability.

Secular values are the best bet for the peace of the world.

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RE:Our own Reflection
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Dec 18, 2007 06:20 PM  Permalink
Secular....oh yah. But the kind of preached and practiced by Congress/Left. They are the most hypocratic and communal parties in India. They try to divide society based on religion, caste and creed. See, Modi is OBC and we are proud of him. But why Congress has issues with OBC Modi? They should have been happt because so called "brahmin" BJP made Modi CM. Right???? So, problem is Congress. Congress can't be part of solution. They are a big problem in themselves.

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Reaction to reaction
by Manjula A on Dec 18, 2007 04:25 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The springing up of a large number of caste based parities was a reaction to the millenia of torture and persecution carried on by the so called upper castes. Now if you say that creation of Modi is a reaction to that, then, Modi is a reaction to reaction, not a reaction to an action.

Further, Mr. TCA Srinivasa Raghavan, is himself behaving like a perfect Indian as defined by him. He is judging the actions of Mr. Modi in the context of existence of identity based politics and finds it justified. Ramanujam test applies to him perfectly. He finds the otherwise immoral acts of Modi to be moral in the context of existence of caste based parties.

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RE:Reaction to reaction
by purna on Dec 18, 2007 04:41 PM  Permalink
You are confusing castes and "untouchables'; only the latter had a raw deal from all castes, perhaps because of the lowly professions they were engaged in. Unfortunately, those professions - manual scavenging - are still allowed to prevail (visit any big railway station). If these 'professions' are abolished and those currently engaged in them are compulsorily made to swith to more respectable jobs, untouchability will vanish, I suppose. Now, christians and muslims also have 'castes' or grades.

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why modi is rejected in usand uk
by aamirkhan on Dec 18, 2007 03:55 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

i wander what will he do for development when he cant even enter usa or uk.for what he was he rejected has any one got the answers

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RE:why modi is rejected in usand uk
by Manjula A on Dec 18, 2007 04:27 PM  Permalink
To develop one's state or country, one doesn't have to go to UK or USA. He is developing his state rather well without those guys. Please come out of your slave mentality.

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RE:why modi is rejected in usand uk
by purna on Dec 18, 2007 04:30 PM  Permalink
Modi had a business visa; but his application for a diplomatic visa was rejected without assigning any reason. Probable reasons are:
1. Pressure from Indian government; US was keen to sign the nuclear deal and was willing to bend backwards.
2. Interference from congress/communist/muslim groups in US and threat of demonstrations. Normally, the US government ignores such actions, but not in this case; one can gusess why.

Anyway, the investment comes from US corporates and not from US government; they know the benefits of investment and will definitely come in droves.

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RE:why modi is rejected in usand uk
by Manjula A on Dec 19, 2007 12:12 PM  Permalink
Modi may not be a very good person. But he isn't as big and as shameless a goon as Osho or Premananda. So he will never be welcomed as a mahatma in the US

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RE:why modi is rejected in usand uk
by Adi Mairanhindi on Dec 18, 2007 04:50 PM  Permalink
One thing that is ironic is that while the USA and West European countries piously condemn the likes of Modi for allegedly killing muslims and imposes punishments, they conveniently forget the millions of muslims they themselves have murdered in Iraq, Palestine etc and that too for a cheap dirty reason- to steal their resources like a common bandit.

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RE:RE:why modi is rejected in usand uk
by rajesh on Dec 18, 2007 05:27 PM  Permalink
Purna : Whataever thedamn reason Us denied him the VISA, one thing got exposed was that the utter shamelessness and savage mindeset of Indian politicians and the secular brigade - who can strip the country's hounor in front of international communities for their own selfish reasons of proving secular credentials... The very same guys have never raised their voices against the US or UK for invading Iraq and Afghanistan and killings thousands of innocent civilians in the name of finding weapons of mass destruction (!) or bringing democracy to those countries...

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RE:why modi is rejected in usand uk
by rajesh on Dec 18, 2007 05:22 PM  Permalink
aamirkhan : afterall you praising US for not granting VISA to Modi is too much man.. What is US ?. How the hell it matters to Modi whether he travels to that country or not, when he is an elected head of a state in this country ?. You guys who spew venom at Modi should bow your heads in shae that an Indian Cm is not granted VISA by a country which is responsible for the killings of thousands of innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan in the pretext of bringing democracy those countries. Your hatred should know some limits, gentleman...

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GOOD ARTICLE
by Krish Koundy on Dec 18, 2007 02:48 PM  Permalink 

This article goes in tot he roots of MOdi phenomena-which is an outcome of identity politics thriving in India for the last few decades. In identity based politics victims and perpetuators exchange their roles in different contexts and locations. Thye will have powerfuly and undefetable defence about which ever the side they are representing.

I dont see any reason why either side should get upset by this article.

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modi who was supposed to welfare of people instead conspired to kill 3000 muslims
by aamirkhan on Dec 18, 2007 02:15 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

a state minister who is elected to cm post has moral responsibility to safe guard the life and properties .If some one has burnt train compartment its your duty to trace the culprits and punish them but instead of doing that he encourages cowards rss ,vhp and bajrang dal along with govt machinery to massacre innocents unharmed men ,women and children and taking pride for slit opening pregnant women which is actually is biggest shame in international arena.if modi had really killed any alqaida people i would have instantly agreed their braveness but i want call them as cowards because a large no people kill a handful moslems and also involve .

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RE:modi who was supposed to welfare of people instead conspired to kill 3000 muslims
by kassim Umbai on Dec 18, 2007 03:41 PM  Permalink
based on ur message first of all I wd brand you a al-kaida supporter. Muslims killed 59 hindus alive, and after math riot 790 muslims and 400 hindus killed as per the information provided by UPA minister in Parlament. Where you got other 2210 muslims extra. In Gujarat many communal riots took place when congress was in power and pakistani trained muslim terrorist killed many thousands of hindus. Then no NGO humen right people where there to help who suffered. Even now all appeasement politicians forgot about the families of 59 killed alive.

Modi did the rigt thing and after that no muslim terrorists attacks in Gujarat or communal violence. If you are a peace loving patriotic Indian phrase Modi for providing peacefull life.
Left and Congress and other minority apeasing politicians need communal riots to create people divided for their vote bank intact. Some anti indian media supporting them for difaming India internationally and Patriotic national parties for their anti indian interest.
Use ur brain next time before write some thing like this.

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RE:RE:modi who was supposed to welfare of people instead conspired to kill 3000 muslims
by aamirkhan on Dec 18, 2007 03:59 PM  Permalink
another die hard supporter of modi under muslim name .whoever r u try to get visa to usa for your chief minister first

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RE:RE:RE:modi who was supposed to welfare of people instead conspired to kill 3000 muslims
by Materialistic Monk on Dec 18, 2007 05:06 PM  Permalink
Umm....OK, any Muslim who supports Modi automatically is a Hindu masquerading as a Muslim...nice logic. No wonder the Muslim community is one of the most developed communities in the world.

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RE:modi who was supposed to welfare of people instead conspired to kill 3000 muslims
by Cape Comorin on Dec 18, 2007 02:19 PM  Permalink
I agree with you.


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RE:modi who was supposed to welfare of people instead conspired to kill 3000 muslims
by uncle shame on Dec 18, 2007 02:32 PM  Permalink
ur name suggest all ur biasedness.
simply ask maharashtra cong govt to implement srikrishna commission report. even in maharashtra so many casualties of muslims in 1993 riots. y not speak against that.

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RE:modi who was supposed to welfare of people instead conspired to kill 3000 muslims
by Cape Comorin on Dec 18, 2007 02:39 PM  Permalink
What is wrong in that message?
Why don't you ask maharashtra govt. to implement srikrishna commission report?

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RE:modi who was supposed to welfare of people instead conspired to kill 3000 muslims
by Sincere Citizen on Dec 18, 2007 02:42 PM  Permalink
Dont lie where did you get that 3000 figure from ? and how did you know Modi conspired to kill ? dont make baseless allegations just because you hate BJP/RSS.
You are deliberately inciting people against Muslims by making such comments, its people like you who have conspired to break and destroy India by inciting religious riots with such speeches and comments.

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RE:modi who was supposed to welfare of people instead conspired to kill 3000 muslims
by Perv Sharma on Dec 18, 2007 02:57 PM  Permalink
First of all read the reports properly - they were riots which means MUSLIMS were also a party to it rather they were the cause of it - Police shot 42 Hindus on the first day of riots itself but when the Muslims got into the riots - the Police were just outnumbered and if THEY HAD SHOT THE MUSLIMS THEN IT WOULD HAVE BECOME ANOTHER BIG ISSUE - BUT THE POLICE SHOT HINDUS EARLIER IT WASN'T A ISSUE BUT NOW IF THEY SHOT ONLY HINDUS AND NOT THE MUSLIMS IT WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN RIOTS ALL OVER INDIA AND THEREFORE THE DILEMMA FOR THE POLICE -

GROW UP - The muslims have given a bigger landscape of things if they ever come into a majority anywhere - AND OFFCOURSE U ALL MUSLIMS KEEP UR MOUTH SHUT ON KASHMIR - WHY ?

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RE:modi who was supposed to welfare of people instead conspired to kill 3000 muslims
by rajesh on Dec 18, 2007 05:06 PM  Permalink
aamirkhan : While we all agree with your point, why don't you say the same thing to other CMs of AP, UP, Delhi, Maharastra etc. in which states terror atatcks have taken place and culrits are not booked yet ?. Life is precious in those states too - isn't it brother ?...

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