Many of Modi Bhai's chamchas beleives that he can not be finished. If this Modi die thousand other Modis will born. So Modi Bhai is like Veejashur whose single drop of his blood use to creat thousands of other Veejashurs. Well, ultimately he too was killed by Mother Kali. No one is indispensable, you see !
RE:Modi , the Veejashur
by prakash on Dec 17, 2007 09:18 PM Permalink
Kya kare Pringer Puttar ! Mera demag jara kamjor hain or else I too would have become a paid writter for rediff
That was indeed a great article. Bang on target is the analysis.
Just one point that is needs to be added is that besides Caste, there is one issue that has been gifted to us and that is the division on basis of language. That adds more to the permutations and combinations.
RE:Modi and the Ramanujam Test
by prakash on Dec 17, 2007 09:20 PM Permalink
Tathagat BABA ki jai. Hindus today need a Guru like you. Keep it up BABA........
RE:Modi and the Ramanujam Test
by George Godd on Dec 17, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
I know people like u will not unserstand till it comes from your back.
For how long should we be judged by/against westerners? Why cannot they take us as we are? It is time Westerners learn about Indianness and try to appreciate it. I think that will silence these bootlickers in the name of Ramanujam, etc. Every society has its own behaviour and how can we say what is right and what is wrong by comparing the societies? A Gobal village is a place where every thought is accomodated without ranking them one against the other. Finally to the author, I guess you are more than 60 years of age, if you had formed your opinion during Nehruvian timeframe, so be it. Talk with your mates, but not with us, the young generation.
RE:Another Crap
by Madan Kumar on Dec 17, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
I think you totally missed the point made by the author. Westerners are the dominant society in this world, and there is nothing wrong in comparing our beliefs with theirs. There is nothing wrong with introspection.
RE:Another Crap
by deepak on Dec 17, 2007 09:33 PM Permalink
Westerners are strong in adminstrative, and organized skills... In other word, their superiority is only their imagination, and rooted in propaganda.
Hinduism does not have concept of conscience. Hence, we can not expect any Hindu or indian to obey or listen to their conscience. Caste is the norm for everything. Nowadays some elites criticise caste based politics. However, they practice casteism even through titles and symbols like sharma, verma, wearing sacred threat etc. First remove every caste based clutches, then question and advise others.
RE:Caste based politics
by tumpalahiri on Dec 17, 2007 09:05 PM Permalink
Wearing surnames is not meant to practise casteism......you seem to be more confused than the writer of this passage
RE:Caste based politics
by mariappan on Dec 17, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
Mr.Ramanathan, Who are you to talk about hinduism, do you know what hinduism is? With a macaulay education and being in ac plush rooms for you it may not dawn what conscience is, but that doesnt confer on you to talk for hinduism. First of all remove the ram and nath from your name and then talk of conscience.
Very interesting and insightful article. But, it is a fallacy to say that the west has "absolute morals". In fact the western civilization has done far worse things - crusades, slavery, genocide - all under the guise of moral principles. All religions except hinduism has persecuted and decimated followers of other religions. Only hinduism states explicitly - all paths lead to salvation; let all prosper. This attitude was OK when hindus' very existence was not threatened. But now, the abrahamic religions abuse hinduism and want to destroy it. hence it is essential to act for self preservation.
RE:I don't understand this article
by abc on Dec 17, 2007 09:13 PM Permalink
I also had similar feelings when i first read it. I then re-read the article and it makes a lot more sense. I think the end is quite abrupt and when I read it the first time, I wasn't prepared for the article to end. In the second rount I knew it all along what he wanted to say in the end so the preceeding paragraphs made more sense. I think...
RE:RE:I don't understand this article
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Dec 17, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
This article has questioned historical facts and how they unfolded. You need to first have an understanding of those facts. Exactly where you have doubt?
RE:I don't understand this article
by tumpalahiri on Dec 17, 2007 09:00 PM Permalink
I went through this feeling....surely the writer is confused or may be he is given the work of writing some passages for RC section of CAT. Dont be surprised if you find this pr a similar passage in one of those CAT papers
Thats put quite nicely, though the West has always used moral absolutes for judging others and their own actions have been based on contextual morality as well.
RE:Precisely!
by tumpalahiri on Dec 17, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
Yeah just like when the western world declared sovereignty for all countries after the end of first world war.......but their for all was not meant for countries like india......where was this absolute morality then.....having written that...i must confess that i dont find standard of this piece of writing so high as to write so much about this.......this is utter bullshit
You says westerners function on moral absolutes and Indians dont have any morality at all (whoever this prophet Ramanujam is). if you think changing wives like shirts; having affair with own mom; having sex with own daughter; killing people on just an arugument; treating people racially.. all these are the "so called" western morality, Please Raghavan, you and your Ramanujam can have it. We indian's dont require your advise. That exactly the reason even after you send the crap to a dozen people only two replied. Because you and your Ramanujam are western stoogs. You have no morality to speak about the Indian Morals. First clean up your mentality and speak about Indian morality.
RE:RE:RE:What is morality?
by Ashish on Dec 17, 2007 08:56 PM Permalink
first learn how to write english and then send out such craps. Gutless man. first come out with your name
RE:What is morality?
by Sonia Bofors Gandhi on Dec 17, 2007 09:00 PM Permalink
Author is not justifying ill deeds of westerners. He is merely saying if they do wrong, they call it wrong, no matter what the context is.
This is nowhere mentioned in the article that Western are morally superiors than Indians. Just their way of judging the morality is different.
RE:What is morality?
by Ashish on Dec 17, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
I was born and bought up in UK. I know what morality they have. Don't tell me how much they accept when they do wrong things. You must be knowing better as you have your name "bofors" in it. hahaha
RE:What is morality?
by jay b on Dec 17, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
ashish has correctly pointed out the facts and happenings some of which we do come across often while living in west
RE:What is morality?
by krishnamohan chandrahasan on Dec 17, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
Westerners dont splurge money on places of worship while their own countrymen starve to death.They dont have casteism.They have their basics right....Stop spreading BS.
RE:What is morality?
by Prakash R on Dec 17, 2007 09:02 PM Permalink
westerners are the worst when comes to caste system being implemented. they show it a RACIST form. and dont talk about the basic rights. try coneverting urself into a western national and they will teach you how to take permission before u BS unlike what u have done here allowed u to BS
RE:What is morality?
by purna on Dec 17, 2007 09:05 PM Permalink
westerners have indulged in slavery, genocide, segregation/ostracization of blacks and hypsanics, apartheid - they still do. They are not angels; our venerable politicians are responsible for wide spread poverty; at least many temples are feeding the poor; you can't say the same thing about governments and politicians.
RE:What is morality?
by Ashish on Dec 17, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
Dont try to become a messiah. You too throw money in the hundies. right? this is what called immorality talk.
