RE:Secular
by Ramanuj Singh on Dec 18, 2007 03:38 AM Permalink
And Satish, since you are mixed, your name is mixed, how about sending you to Italy...India is secular and everyone has a right to express themselves...don't force the majority to kick your butt and then don't complain once you enrage the majority...
RE:Secular
by Ramanuj Singh on Dec 18, 2007 04:07 AM Permalink
Satish: Ask Sonia to send you as a modern Indian slave of the Italians..you can certainly clean their toilets or wash their dirty clothes...Why would any Indian pay you to leave the country...you'll probably get kicked out one day...
RE:Secular
by Fun Lover on Dec 18, 2007 04:08 AM Permalink
Nepal is actually a secular country. The best place for Narendra Modi would be the birthplace of Lord Krishna. I am not talking about Mathura. I am talking about a jail.
RE:Secular
by sahil m on Dec 18, 2007 06:49 AM Permalink
I differ on the religion converting thing... I really do not think anybody needs to worry about the conversion. Its for the ppk to decide wat relion they feel cftable with. If at all sombody feels.. his/her religion is not somthing he recognizes himself with, let him choose his own, rather than do stupid acts and spoil things. EVERYONE IS SO BLOODY CONCERNED ABOUT RELIGIOUS CONVERSION, BUT WHY DO U IGNORE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD/ ANY RELIGION. WHTA DO U HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THEM. KILL THEM TOO RAISE AN UPROAR. If u're religion has power, is convincing is so good, it shud alone prevent ppl from converting, and if cannot, its not worth.there is no point
RE:There are two issues with ths article:
by Ramanuj Singh on Dec 18, 2007 03:40 AM Permalink
It is nonsense to say that only Indians practice contextual morality...all of the west does it, just that for the last 4-5 centuries they've had an upper hand and so never had to take the litmus test. As Islamic fundamentalism rises, you'll see more and more of contextual morality show up in europe and elsewhere.
Agreed that Indians follow Contextual Morality...but so the world. There are lot of examples ( in line with what u hv given for Indians) of contextual morality by westerners also. After all human mind is basically same everywhere.....So always write/explain both sides of a coin OR do not misguide people.
RE:Westerners????
by umashankar s on Dec 18, 2007 03:00 AM Permalink
Hi Abhijeet, I had written the same argument what you have rightly mentioned. But rediff moderator didn't publish it. This article is a farce on those who think western morality is good morality. Can they defend their 'absoulte morality' on abortions, Iraq war, the nuclear attack,slavery, etc. None can. Who has given the author and that fellow Ramanjam the right to define morality only in the Western way. Rediff should dump such authors in the dust bin.Come on rediff moderator don't get scared. Rediff shouldn't be foolish
Dear Mr Srinivasa-Raghavan, I understand the part about indians functioning on contextual morality, but it seems to me that this is true for most human beings. for e.g. a lot of americans offer moral justification for guantanamo bay, torture of prisoners, attacks on iraq etc in the context of the 9/11 and the 'war on terror'. can you pls give examples of westerners functioning on 'moral absolutes'. in my limited experience this does not seem to be the case
...that Pak is upto a secret agenda of sowing religious and communal discord among India's youth by bombarding these forums with comments that incite hate? I think its very likely. The discussions on any topic here show that the nations youth are a troubled lot, filled with anger and hate, and its just waiting to explode. So if indeed Pak is behind this, its working. I appeal to my fellow countrymen to ignore comments that incite hatred and intolerance or better still, I appeal to the moderators to shut down this forum for the sake of the nations unity. If you see any comment that incites religious or communal hatred, just report abuse, do not bother replying. If you yourself have these feelings, get counseling help without further delay.
For a few days last week, I was on Assignment Modi. I was there among his masked doubles--a plastic tribute to the cult of "Narendrabhai"--as he played with the mass mind with such demagogic panache. On evenings inundated with garishly exaggerated lotuses and enemies enlarged to demonic sizes like Sohrabuddin (who was killed in a controversial police encounter in Gujarat sometime ago) and Afzal Guru (who is still alive though the court sentenced him to death for his involvement in the terrorist attack on Parliament), Performance Modi was politics at its kitschy best. I mean kitsch in its original sense.
As Milan Kundera writes, "Kitsch is the aesthetic ideal of all politicians and all political parties and movements." He elaborates in a conversation with Ian McEvan: "In my view, politics--in the sense of political parties, elections and modern politics--is unthinkable without kitsch. It is inevitable. The function of the successful politician is to please. He is meant to please the largest number of people humanly possible, and to please so many you must rely on the clichés they want to hear." Modi has multitudes to please, and he relies on more than clichés. He mines from sources as varied as mythology and the junkyard of secular India.
As the words left Planet Modi and reached the holy precincts of official secularism in Delhi and elsewhere in India, it was kitsch and clichés all over again. Modi the communal Caligula. Modi the bl
RE:Our silence and Modi's shrillness
by Abhijeet Mohanrao Salokhe on Dec 18, 2007 02:37 AM Permalink
Pashupati, why you are so negative minded person? rather, I would have accepted you praising Sonia (the foreigner, the ultimate tragedy of India's self esteem. Indian of any cast/religion was/is OK). I think you are sick person. We require one more Modi for India & that day is not far away.....
RE:Our silence and Modi's shrillness
by Pashupati on Dec 18, 2007 02:40 AM Permalink
I gave a neutral opinion. I think the article by Prasannarajan is by and large unbiased and is related to the article by Raghavan. As far as Shri Narendra Modi goes, i admire him more than you. So use your head before you post again.
RE:Modi and the Ramanujam Test
by Pashupati on Dec 18, 2007 02:04 AM Permalink
get a name yaar. So it's easy to reply to you. Even a name like monkey will do.
RE:Modi and the Ramanujam Test
by on Dec 18, 2007 02:08 AM Permalink
sorry, for some reason website is not showing my name.I will check what is going on.
