hey brother Pecosta, where are you? are you convinced? please read your religion and islam as well you will come to know the truth. even those with dirty desire and totally distorted ideas about islam also come to know the truth. only thing is acceptance. if they accept it or not is the question. truth is revealed long back. every body knows the truth behind 911 but how many of us do accept it? after all it is good that muslims are being killed in the world, no matter what, is our only attitude. so what do we expect from this world. yes i still believe in truth and have firm belief that there may be delay but there can never be the complete denial of truth. falsehood will perish as falsehood is by nature bound to perish.
Pakistan on Friday admitted that "foolproof" (BUT NOT IMBICILEPROOF) measures have been put in place to secure the country's atomic weapons and there was every possibility of them falling into "wrong" hands.
1.where ever islam is there there is no peace, why ? Ex:iraq,afghan,pakistan,palistena etc. 2.Most islamic nations r technically, economically, socially n politically backward, why ? EX:saudi,malaysia,pakistan politically backward, afghan,african muslim countries ,iran technically backward 3.Muslims want democracy where ever they r in minority but where ever they r in majority they don give democracy to minorities, why ? EX:No dempcracy & secularism in islamic countries,all over india muslims want democracy&secularism,but in kashmir they don want to give democracy. 4.Muslims kill more muslims than non muslims killing muslims,why ? EX:iraq,pakistan,afghanistan
RE:islam n peace a myth
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
01. if you attack in the country then how can be there peace? in india do you think there is peace? bomb blasts and riots and so much more. can we say where ever hindus are there, there cant be peace. if you want to judge then please read the books and policies of islam, dont just come to conclusion without any good reason. every body please take a claim of my friend above and read books, read quran, read Geeta and your own books and judge yourself. read the policies and laws and ethics of islam. you will be surprised to see that the whole human rights for the world have been taken from islam which has been postulated and IMPLEMENTED even long back before any body could think about human rights.
RE:islam n peace a myth
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 09:31 PM Permalink
04. muslims kill muslim. i dont agree with you but still it is okay. so what if muslims kill muslims. hindu kill hindu. christian kill christian. so what happen. how can you blame the religion. if a driver drives rashly then what is the defect in car? dont blame the car. have you read islam, does it say kill the innocents? where? i shall ask, you can find even single place where it says. kill innoncents. killing kafirs: always quoted, where did is say killing kafirs: no body knows. if pakistan attacks on india, what indian commander should say to his army. go and kiss the pakistani soldier right? when there is war, then we must fight, every body has got right to protect himself. then why not muslims. in both the world wars christians fought and killed only christians. no body said christians fight against christians? during freedom fight of india, hindus and muslims together fought against christians, on body claimed that hindus and muslims fights against christians. in mahabharath and ramayana there was fight hindu Vs hindu. even ravan was hindu, right, he was a brahman and was very much knowledgeable in vedas and was a devotee of shiva, right so he was a hindu. no body says, hindu kidnaps woman and kills good person. why only demonising muslims and islam. show me a single place where islam says kill any one (leave kafirs alone) when it talks about peace. when war is there, we must fight, every body fights. so what is wrong in this.
RE:islam n peace a myth
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
islam doesnt ask any body to become backward technically or socially, or politically or educationally. islam started (the first revealation) with the word "Read" and how come a religion can preach backwardness in all these when its starting itself is with reading and studying. yes present world is like that. we must see where is the reason. actually for the next 5 centuries, there was a good progress in education and technology among muslims but they failed to understand the conspiracy of west and also made a lot of enemies just because some greedy people will never support the good for they want to enjoy even if the others cry. islam gave a system of zakah, how many of us will like to pay, very few, so those who have huge money will definitely oppose islam. a lot of deadly criminals were forgiven during the time of Prophet by asking them to teach economy, mathamatics and trading to muslims, why because they dont give importance to these things? just think. specially the other readers who are reading this, i want them to think and ponder on this. read the early history of of islam, if you fear biased writing then read two three historians' books and you will come to know the truth inshaAllah. i dont know how many of us know that iraq has had a space mission much before indian had. but west knows who their real enemy is, they dont care if hindu progress as hindus dont have any idea for the world but islam gives the world order.
RE:islam n peace a myth
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 09:30 PM Permalink
and this world order pains the rich people, the people who want to loot others and dont want to give the equal rights to poor. so they started conspiring against islam and against muslims. why dont you see this. how many rapes cases are in saudi arabia, how many in india and how many in USA. just have a data of your agencies, dont believe me. look into your own data and data of FBI. why rape only. look into theft cases. look into murder cases. look into illegal sex cases. look into incestuous relation cases. look into racial attack cases. look into social discrimination cases. one man who wrote so many things agains prophet of islam but could not help from putting one passage in his book. what was that passage? "ALTHOUGH SERMONS OF HUMAN EQUALITY, FRATERNITY AND GENEROSITY HAVE BEEN GIVEN EARLIER ALSO, WE FIND SO MANY OF THIS THINGS IN THE SERMONS OF JESUS OF NAZERETH, BUT LET ME TELL YOU IT IS MOHAMMAD THE PROPHET OF ISLAM WHO FIRST TIME IN THE HUMAN HISTORY WAS SUCCESSFULLY ABLE TO ESTABLISH SOCIETY BASED ON THESE VALUSES". later in the next edition this passage was removed because those who have paid this man for his writing could tolerate these words of truth.
RE:islam n peace a myth
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 09:30 PM Permalink
02. Muslims never want democracy no matter what. muslims want equality and right to lead and preach their religion and live peacefully in this world. why blame only muslims, even some good scholars have denied the democracy being a good system. i remember Mr. Vasudev Vyas who holds the highest position in hindu ved society tells: (in fact he quoted someone elses statement but he approves it). I CAN TOLERATE DEMOCRACY AS LONG AS ONE FOOL IS EQUAL TO ONE WISE PERSON. BUT IT BECOMES INTOLERABLE FOR ME WHEN TWO FOOLS ARE MORE THAN ONE WISE PERSON. democracy is the easy tool to implement one own govt. inotheres country. what do you think in afghanista, or in iraq, is there any democracy? no way. they are stooges placed by USA govt. and they can do this only by demonising those who fight against USA as terrorists. democracy is fools society. people who dont even know what govt. of politics is are given equal count of vote and they are easily motivated and distorted. in gujrat there may be democracy but do you think humanity is there. do you think has there been any good rule this man could have survived even after killing a lot of innocent people. claiming godhra can never be the true reason for gujrat killing. govt. job is to maintain law and order and punish the culprits, not take revenge. but every thing is possible in democracy. look how many crimes are there where democracy is there and how many crimes are there where there is islamic rule is raging. you will know the truth.
RE:FOOLISH ISLAMIC NATIONS!!
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 08:40 PM Permalink
nations build on islam are actually the real propagator of peace and time has proved this in past but this doesnt suit to some perticular community. so they propagate something against this divine rule. in fact every new rule is totally with one intention that suppress Islam and they easily say that we should not include religion here and there but every thing is motivated by religion and money. islam gives the real peace and equal human rights to every body, even kafirs and mushriks as far as worldly life is concerned. as far as life after death is concerned, why it should bother to kafirs and mushriks what islam thinks about them? do they care life after death at the very first place? every religion talks about their own truthfulness. why so much hue and cry for islam. let every body read and study islam and every religion and accept what appeals them. but then there will be mass conversion towards islam and that pains adamant kafirs and then they use so many ways to demonise islam and this terrorism is a recent weapon used against islam when they did not crush islam by crusade and other dirty means. islam will grow and will not be suppressed by any body. wa kul jaa'al Hakko, wa jahakal Baatil, innal Batil-e-Kana Jahooka. say: the truth has come and falsehood has perished, for the falsehood is bound to perish by nature.
RE:FOOLISH ISLAMIC NATIONS!!
by pecosta on Dec 14, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
1.where ever islam is there there is no peace, why ? Ex:iraq,afghan,pakistan,palistena etc. 2.Most islamic nations r technically, economically, socially n politically backward, why ? EX:saudi,malaysia,pakistan politically backward, afghan,african muslim countries ,iran technically backward 3.Muslims want democracy where ever they r in minority but where ever they r in majority they don give democracy to minorities, why ? EX:No dempcracy & secularism in islamic countries,all over india muslims want democracy&secularism,but in kashmir they don want to give democracy. 4.Muslims kill more muslims than non muslims killing muslims,why ? EX:iraq,pakistan,afghanistan
RE:RE:FOOLISH ISLAMIC NATIONS!!
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 09:19 PM Permalink
02. Muslims never want democracy no matter what. muslims want equality and right to lead and preach their religion and live peacefully in this world. why blame only muslims, even some good scholars have denied the democracy being a good system. i remember Mr. Vasudev Vyas who holds the highest position in hindu ved society tells: (in fact he quoted someone elses statement but he approves it). I CAN TOLERATE DEMOCRACY AS LONG AS ONE FOOL IS EQUAL TO ONE WISE PERSON. BUT IT BECOMES INTOLERABLE FOR ME WHEN TWO FOOLS ARE MORE THAN ONE WISE PERSON. democracy is the easy tool to implement one own govt. inotheres country. what do you think in afghanista, or in iraq, is there any democracy? no way. they are stooges placed by USA govt. and they can do this only by demonising those who fight against USA as terrorists. democracy is fools society. people who dont even know what govt. of politics is are given equal count of vote and they are easily motivated and distorted. in gujrat there may be democracy but do you think humanity is there. do you think has there been any good rule this man could have survived even after killing a lot of innocent people. claiming godhra can never be the true reason for gujrat killing. govt. job is to maintain law and order and punish the culprits, not take revenge. but every thing is possible in democracy. look how many crimes are there where democracy is there and how many crimes are there where there is islamic rule is raging. you will know the truth.
RE:FOOLISH ISLAMIC NATIONS!!
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
01. if you attack in the country then how can be there peace? in india do you think there is peace? bomb blasts and riots and so much more. can we say where ever hindus are there, there cant be peace. if you want to judge then please read the books and policies of islam, dont just come to conclusion without any good reason. every body please take a claim of my friend above and read books, read quran, read Geeta and your own books and judge yourself. read the policies and laws and ethics of islam. you will be surprised to see that the whole human rights for the world have been taken from islam which has been postulated and IMPLEMENTED even long back before any body could think about human rights.
RE:RE:FOOLISH ISLAMIC NATIONS!!
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 09:26 PM Permalink
04. muslims kill muslim. i dont agree with you but still it is okay. so what if muslims kill muslims. hindu kill hindu. christian kill christian. so what happen. how can you blame the religion. if a driver drives rashly then what is the defect in car? dont blame the car. have you read islam, does it say kill the innocents? where? i shall ask, you can find even single place where it says. kill innoncents. killing kafirs: always quoted, where did is say killing kafirs: no body knows. if pakistan attacks on india, what indian commander should say to his army. go and kiss the pakistani soldier right? when there is war, then we must fight, every body has got right to protect himself. then why not muslims. in both the world wars christians fought and killed only christians. no body said christians fight against christians? during freedom fight of india, hindus and muslims together fought against christians, on body claimed that hindus and muslims fights against christians. in mahabharath and ramayana there was fight hindu Vs hindu. even ravan was hindu, right, he was a brahman and was very much knowledgeable in vedas and was a devotee of shiva, right so he was a hindu. no body says, hindu kidnaps woman and kills good person. why only demonising muslims and islam. show me a single place where islam says kill any one (leave kafirs alone) when it talks about peace. when war is there, we must fight, every body fights. so what is wrong in this.
RE:RE:RE:FOOLISH ISLAMIC NATIONS!!
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 09:09 PM Permalink
and this world order pains the rich people, the people who want to loot others and dont want to give the equal rights to poor. so they started conspiring against islam and against muslims. why dont you see this. how many rapes cases are in saudi arabia, how many in india and how many in USA. just have a data of your agencies, dont believe me. look into your own data and data of FBI. why rape only. look into theft cases. look into murder cases. look into illegal sex cases. look into incestuous relation cases. look into racial attack cases. look into social discrimination cases. one man who wrote so many things agains prophet of islam but could not help from putting one passage in his book. what was that passage? "ALTHOUGH SERMONS OF HUMAN EQUALITY, FRATERNITY AND GENEROSITY HAVE BEEN GIVEN EARLIER ALSO, WE FIND SO MANY OF THIS THINGS IN THE SERMONS OF JESUS OF NAZERETH, BUT LET ME TELL YOU IT IS MOHAMMAD THE PROPHET OF ISLAM WHO FIRST TIME IN THE HUMAN HISTORY WAS SUCCESSFULLY ABLE TO ESTABLISH SOCIETY BASED ON THESE VALUSES". later in the next edition this passage was removed because those who have paid this man for his writing could tolerate these words of truth.
RE:RE:FOOLISH ISLAMIC NATIONS!!
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
islam doesnt ask any body to become backward technically or socially, or politically or educationally. islam started (the first revealation) with the word "Read" and how come a religion can preach backwardness in all these when its starting itself is with reading and studying. yes present world is like that. we must see where is the reason. actually for the next 5 centuries, there was a good progress in education and technology among muslims but they failed to understand the conspiracy of west and also made a lot of enemies just because some greedy people will never support the good for they want to enjoy even if the others cry. islam gave a system of zakah, how many of us will like to pay, very few, so those who have huge money will definitely oppose islam. a lot of deadly criminals were forgiven during the time of Prophet by asking them to teach economy, mathamatics and trading to muslims, why because they dont give importance to these things? just think. specially the other readers who are reading this, i want them to think and ponder on this. read the early history of of islam, if you fear biased writing then read two three historians' books and you will come to know the truth inshaAllah. i dont know how many of us know that iraq has had a space mission much before indian had. but west knows who their real enemy is, they dont care if hindu progress as hindus dont have any idea for the world but islam gives the world order.
RE:Nuclear arsenal secure
by Cutlet Gravy on Dec 14, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
Pakistan on Friday asmitted that "foolproof" (BUT NOT IMBICILEPROOF) measures have been put in place to secure the country's atomic weapons and there was every possibility of them falling into "wrong" hands.
To keep the position intact, Musharraf has now the entire nuclear arsenal under him. That way he becomes even more critical and the world (US) will ensure he is safe. Wow... In the world where people have money or body gaurds or people to make them stay safe in a position, Musharraf has a entire set of nuclear arsenal to support him... A NEW WORLD ORDER...
RE:This man has guts!!!
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
is it called a new world order? you have no idea what you are referring to. some devils are trying to impose this new rule on us and only good people very close to God will be able to defy it.
RE:SINDH AND TIBET
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
pakistan is also not safe from usa and india. so pakistan too should develop some more arsenal and ballistics so that there will be balance everywhere.
RE:SINDH AND TIBET
by punga naale on Dec 14, 2007 08:16 PM Permalink
no point in mkinng more arsenal and nukes coz more it will make more the chances of falling into wrong hands, more will threat to pak from their own people. So they should stop making more and destroy what they have already got.
RE:SINDH AND TIBET
by Golden on Dec 14, 2007 08:45 PM Permalink
that is a cunning policy the whole world is using. gather as much and as deadly weapon as possible for yourself but never allow others to do this. use all sort of means, sanction and every thing, if you cant then just try to convince that it is not safe and don this. do you convince the same to your own countrymen and the police of the world? today USA is like a mad man with a sharp razor in his hand. how many like you come forward to convince usa not to develop new weapon or give up what they have? stop this devilish desire of yours to stop others and develop for yourself. no body will believe you. any one who fears will have right to develop weapons and no body should stop him. usa is behaving like a mad man to the entire world specially from where it can feel that they can give a good contest, go and convince usa to denuke itself first.
