It doesn't matter how many troops India move around. First get rid of the communists who kill innocent people in nadigram. Bengalis should know that their leaders are taking orders from Communists in China and not from people of Bengal.
RE:With bengali Communists around.
by steve on Dec 13, 2007 09:43 PM Permalink
I agree..Indias are for sale...everyewhere Indias are being bought out, their souls are for sale as it seems. I feel sad as nothing will change doesn't matter how much some of us scream on rediff or anywhere...East will in Chinese hand, north with tibet and slowly Nepal in coming years will be in chinese had, Pakistan will own eventually Jammu and kashmir with help of China, sonia and congress...I see Punjab in bit of a danger as well but shopefully punjabies will stand up, Gujarat is already in danger within the country where there is no support to fight terrorist from media, Sonia...south has it's own problem...Yes we are doing well and tackling the problems...Kerala and west coast is full of arms and amunitions which comes from Dubai, middle east, saudi arabia, pakistan and no one is patroling the coast..Ram bharose is the way to go I guess. There will be more terror in India...there will be islamic movement in India, there will be major chinese influence in india.
RE:RE:With bengali Communists around.
by siddhartha on Dec 13, 2007 09:59 PM Permalink
u are truly paranoid..if u look around btw every country has internal trouble including china and usa.
RE:With bengali Communists around.
by steve on Dec 13, 2007 10:17 PM Permalink
I agree to some degree I may be paranoid, but do you see the trend since last few cneturies that India is loosing land...however and what ever means and reasons. Don't you think that it is only fair to tackel the issue by atleast talking about it since many things I mention are all that we see. Don't you want the problem to go away or or atleast efforts should be sincerely tackled by us normal folks since politicians in our country has priorities which at best confused. Does china, US has similar problems? I don't think so...at least not as dire and Venerable as is the case for India
RE:china
by The Book Guy on Dec 13, 2007 09:53 PM Permalink
I have lived in China for 3 years..They can survive on worms, cockroaches and birds also. During my stay I hardly ever saw a bird. All of them were killed and eaten. And cockroaches are plentiful so this technique will not work..
even with our 6000 boys we can't do anything to China and Pakistan, everytime they declare a war against us, We say "We won" but everytime we have ended by giving the part of India to them. Tibet to China and Half of Kashmir to Pakistan. What type of victory is that????
RE:Ww can't do anything
by Sunil Kumar on Dec 13, 2007 09:19 PM Permalink
Well said!!! The congress is to be blamed for all this, as they are the only people who turned the country as a whole a timid entity, and they have the brains of a goat.
RE:Ww can't do anything
by dj kumar on Dec 13, 2007 09:29 PM Permalink
painful but what you are saying is true. May be after 1000 years of slavery Hindus have become timid.To become a great country you need to show exemplary courage. See Europe today, they are so cicvilized becoause their past generation were brave like Spartans, greeks, Romans. See US and Israel today but when it comes to India, I become so hopeless, and I am not blaming anyone since in someway I also responsible for this. Hindus get united and display exemplary courage. ITs so shameful what is happening in Malaysia and it is more shameful that those guys expect help from England not India. It shows the timid stature of our country. Be brave.
RE:Ww can't do anything
by hormaz dara mistry on Dec 13, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
I cannot agree with you more....but the difference between European countries and India is that European entities were always a unified identity in terms of religion, culture and language...India has a more bigger challenge of unifying different cultures and hoping that before being called Hindu, Muslim or Christian, that those people call themselves Indians.
Even our leaders are divided. More than being timid, it is more to do with not being able to relate to each other even after living with each other since forever. How can you expect a unified response from a divided community?
RE:Ww can't do anything
by siddhartha on Dec 13, 2007 09:53 PM Permalink
they expect help from any country whom they can hold responsble for their state of affairs.. they have been livng in malaysia for decades how do they qualify as indians?
Its like indian muslims asking for help from pakistan...
just because they are hindu doesnt make them indian..neplis are hindu too.
And india hasnt been timid. India is usualy taken its own stance..even during cold war under nehru india did not go along with USA which was the easier thing to do while pakistan did.
killing people, invading territories etc is nothing courageous..
israel is contantly needing to defend itself from outsiders and palestine etc easy to attacj(hey dont have nuclear bombs or great armies)..
so stop spreading this useles testerone fillled propganda...
RE:RE:Ww can't do anything
by siddhartha on Dec 13, 2007 09:55 PM Permalink
and america has its foot in mouth and losing enormous amounts of resources because of its involvements where it should not be...
they can afford it we cant :) we cant even feed half our population.
RE:Ww can't do anything
by dhananjay kumar on Dec 13, 2007 10:18 PM Permalink
Another pseudo intellectual. So if we cant feed our half population then by that logic we should not develop any Nukes, we should reduce our million strong army, we should not buy n develop sophisticated weapons.Is that make sense to you. Ppl like u r also responsible for making India spineless. Regarding Malaysia, if anywhere anything happens against Muslims the effect is felt in Middle East too since that is cradle place of that religion that civilization, similarly one should have empathy if anything happens against Hindus in large anywhere in the world since this is the place where this great religion n civilization evolved. But I know ppl like wont feel anything since your pseudo intellectual mind will give logical excuses to stay away from the core issues and that is where courage and braveness is needed.Regarding US and Israel, they are bold enough to take punitive steps against there adversaries even if the whole world is against them. OK so kid, bfore making such statements introspect yourself first what u r saying.
This is why we should have good relations with USA. USA is the only country which can threaten china of dire consequences, if we have very good relations with them.
RE:US relations
by Sathish N on Dec 13, 2007 09:29 PM Permalink
We need to have ties with US. But, the terms should be changed so that it is win-win for both the countries and India does not lose its autonomy. It is also in US's best interest to have ties with India to contain China.
RE:US relations
by Neutronstar on Dec 13, 2007 09:21 PM Permalink
Very well said. But as long as commies are supporting the government, this wont happen.
RE:US relations
by skmahendroo on Dec 13, 2007 09:51 PM Permalink
These days it will be a big folly to depend upon others for your protection.Every one exploits a weak nation. There is no alternative but to prepare your own defence.
RE:US relations
by veerapuram dharan on Dec 13, 2007 09:15 PM Permalink
true and this can happen if we can drive out yechuris and buddhas and karats from the next election...
RE:US relations
by rajeev nair on Dec 13, 2007 09:26 PM Permalink
And you have seen the fate of all those who had good relations with united States of a$$es .
RE:US relations
by Neutronstar on Dec 13, 2007 09:30 PM Permalink
I have seen Western Europe prosper a lot after WW2 because of USA. And I have seen the complete collapse of Soviet Union and its allies.
Don't worry folks. These 6000 boys will have good picnic with Chinese soldiers. China is not a fool like Pakistan to finger India just for fanatic fun. China is now busy only in becoming a super power. She will not risk any conflict at this moment. Conflict may take place when India will be in position to dislodge China from super power status by 2045, not before that.
RE:Picnic
by narayanan srinivasan on Dec 13, 2007 09:12 PM Permalink
but china cant wait till 2045..this 6000 bravados will be wasted and killed in another 2-3 years..
Congress in 60 years of self promoting, minority pempering,commi bootlicking has made this country a laughing stock in world. Any tomdickharry country can threaten us, redicule us, CHINA is a big and strong country prepared to sacrfice economically and malitarily in a long drawn out wars.
They fought a big long war during their civil wars and they fought in Korea almost winning that war. Their sacrifice during those times and others can not be matched even 10% when it come to war.
Every body who to this country, ruled us. Since we cant fight even for our rights and nation, we talk of secularims, forgetting that secularism is to be exercised by all the parties involved.
we want an easy life, soft life. It does not matter who rules us, if we are left alone in our country.
RE:Congress policies in last 60 years
by prakash on Dec 13, 2007 09:14 PM Permalink
Mr. Purav, you must be also eating cockroches and frogs like Chinese people. Your thoghts are confused. Congress ruled India for 60 years because that was the only party naturally evolved as an only national party. It has made mistakes and so was punnished. BJP came and made more mistakes and so was kicked out. Now people will kick out Congress again to see what BJP can deliver. This will go on. As per the sacrifice in war, not only China, every country sacrificed in those days. All those wars were long drawned one. Todays war will decide the fate with in first 7 days. No need of long drawn war or any huge sacrifice. Indians knows how to relax. Eat less cocroches and you will also be able to relax, okay ?
RE:Should all the Defence matters be published so widely.
by prakash on Dec 13, 2007 09:16 PM Permalink
When you don't know your wife's secret how do you think to know defence secrets, you Chimp ? Certain secrets are a must.
