left mein pakistan, oopar nepal, thoda aur oopar china, side mein bangladesh, neeche srilanka! aha what a nasty neighborhood! kya naseed hei india ka! raam ji hee bachaye humko!
RE:hahaha!
by Sami on Dec 13, 2007 10:56 PM Permalink
Pak is failed country america is funding it. why you count bangla srilnk and nepal. they are no where. India is superpowr now
RE:hahaha!
by Neutronstar on Dec 13, 2007 10:20 PM Permalink
raamji ke saath saath kam se kam 300 nuclear bombs bhi hain to achha rahega. raamji akele hame mussalmaanon aur british ki invasion se nahi bacha paaye.
RE:hahaha!
by RAJA HINDUSTANI on Dec 13, 2007 10:26 PM Permalink
ram or for that matter no diety will help us dudes..our unity and strength are the only two things that will help us..for everything we should not shamelessly start ram or rahim or nanak or christ issue...
RE:RE:hahaha!
by Neutronstar on Dec 13, 2007 10:27 PM Permalink
yaar, whether there is ram or whether there is no ram, nuclear missiles can always save us from china...
RE:hahaha!
by RAJA HINDUSTANI on Dec 13, 2007 10:30 PM Permalink
technologically and milatarily they are a hundred times more powerful and equiped dude. they even have ICBM's in their stockpile...loads of nuclear weapons tooo...we have to build our potential against them..only unitedly we can...with pakistan we can fight any moment and win tooooo...
RE:hahaha!
by Neutronstar on Dec 13, 2007 10:33 PM Permalink
Raja ji, when you have 100 powerful nukes aiming at them and IF you have SECOND STRIKE CAPABILITY for at least 50 of the 100, then however technologically advanced the Chinese be, you can always deter them. No sane country would want 50 nuclear bombs to be dropped on itself. And Chinese are very sane (and of course, very cunning too).
RE:RE:hahaha!
by RAJA HINDUSTANI on Dec 13, 2007 10:36 PM Permalink
Do we have any reply to the incursion of Aksai Chin...are you ready for the nuclear war with china? So is there any way but a nuclear deal with america to keep china at distance....why opppose nuclear deal?cant these shameless communists and BJP doooonnnkkkeeeeysss understand this
RE:RE:hahaha!
by Neutronstar on Dec 13, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
Raja ji, I am not talking about an actual nuclear war. I am talking about having a credible nuclear deterrence against China. Nuclear weapons are NOT generally meant to be weapons of actual war. They are meant to DETER the opponent from launching a war against you. India should develop so many powerful nukes that they should ultimately deter Chinese from thinking of carrying out any aggresive military actions against India. Chinese understand ONLY one language - Power.
CPM politburo has urgently arranged a meeting with a conference call with China. They have requested immediate withdrawl of troops or they will withdraw support to the government.
every stupid country can acually take advantage of the situation our country is facing. if educated people like us can fight and screw each other in the name of religion, we can imagine the plight of the uneducated and uninformed. u start any discussion and the topic will come back to hindu muslim. bozz hindus and muslims are here to stay put up. u cant remove any one from here. when we cant do something which is not possible why dont we leave all these and think about some options which will actually help us. if we are not united even nepal will one day dictate terms to us. all of us talk of the kashmir issue but tell me how many know that china has occupied more kashmire than pakistan...it has occupied a lot of eastern india. why dont we talk about it.
RE:be united
by RAJA HINDUSTANI on Dec 13, 2007 10:19 PM Permalink
amit even aksai chin which was integral part of india is now in china...its almost double than the POK. did you ever hear anybody fighting for it. go to any indian map published by google or any western country u will find the occupied land by china...its ten times more than what pakistan did to us....still we are bothered about pakistan defeating which is in our arms lenght...but can we say the same about china...even americans fear china
RE:be united
by Rani on Dec 13, 2007 10:41 PM Permalink
Gentlemen Congress ruled India for forty odd years & every problem we have now has taken place in those years only. Congress has always tried to do the similar things that Britishers, Mughals did to Hindu's for 700 years. Now is the time that every educated person should take active role to do the welfare for India to avoid any misadventure, mishappening. Politicians like Ullu P, SG, MMS (Puppet) et cetecra keep ruling then we shall keep crying with crocodile tears. MP's should have minimum qualification that should be post graduate so that they have proper imagination, future thinking, planning
RE:be united
by RAJA HINDUSTANI on Dec 13, 2007 10:52 PM Permalink
if not for muslim hindu sikh...we will fight for congress bjp sp bsp...its we the educated who have to think about our country...these uneducated people or poets ruling the country wont help us..right said rani...just like IPS IAS there should be Indian Political Service...passing which is the criteria for ruling the country
in asia japan is perfect counter weight to china, bhutan is indirect protectorate of india, may be chinees r sending a message to india, any way in present situation china cant dare to hit india.
RE:japan is
by Neutronstar on Dec 13, 2007 10:14 PM Permalink
japan itself is dependent on USA for its protection from China. never underestimate the Chinese.
RE:japan is
by Amit gaur on Dec 13, 2007 10:13 PM Permalink
any body can dare to hit India even small bangladesh, see the past and argue, till date we have not so glorious past in any war, u know in kargil also we are looser, ask any army personal how many hill and peaks are still under there control, forget to fight against China
India and China are both big countries, they will not fight each other, at least directly. India and China have no ideological enemity with each other. India's ideological enemy is Pakistan.
RE:India and China new cold war
by RAJA HINDUSTANI on Dec 13, 2007 10:08 PM Permalink
arey bewakoooooooffffff...china has occcupied more kashmir than pakistan...its eyes are on arunachal pradesh...a part of it is gone...now they want more....infigting within pakistan is enough to keep it busy...we dont need special attention of arms men and amunation to have a look on it..but when u talk of china even america does not have guts to go against it. can we? if we can .. then wy are we mum about aksai chin and arnachal pradesh and many parts of eastern india....why why why????
RE:India and China new cold war
by pecosta on Dec 13, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
hay ashoak even pak is not idelogical enemy , its the medival minded mullas in islam throught the world is enemy of man kind, i have met many pakis in USA they appreciate every thing abot india.so before attacking any one try to differrentiate the threat plez don generalize.
RE:India and China new cold war
by Amit gaur on Dec 13, 2007 10:06 PM Permalink
there is no discssuion if we dont name paksitan, ppls like u are real problem and idiot
RE:India and China new cold war
by Mukund Narvekar on Dec 13, 2007 11:10 PM Permalink
indai and china are both big countries there is no doubt.................but problem is place where both are intrested to seat and that regional plus asian and world superpower...................india is growing power behind china interms of economy, poulation and defence.do not forget that in 2006 india was the bigest importer of arms in that year overtaking china..............so there are concerne and this issue have to be deal with strong heart and mind.............and only suggetion is that we need to change our defence policy from defencive to offencive............otherwise people says history reapets itsself..............
RE:India and China new cold war
by Amit gaur on Dec 13, 2007 10:10 PM Permalink
Ashok is living in a city and thinks here ends the world he has not seen the world, may be not even 10 pakistani is his life, i do also have few pakistani friends and they are same humna like us its only mullas who are problem not all pakistani
India needs a 5000-7000 range km missile as fast as possible. Only when the entire Chinese mainland including Beijing, Shanghai and the newly acquired Hong Kong can be threatened from any part of India by Indian nuclear capable missiles, can we have a reasonable deterrent against China. Also develop Submarine Launched Ballistic Missiles, so that any Chinese city can be targeted from the seas. At least 50 nuclear missiles form land and 50 nuclear missiles from water, including around 25 thermo nuclear warheads (hydrogen bombs), each from land and water are needed to be aimed at China for credible deterrence. The hydrogen bombs must be at least 100 kiloton TNT equivalent. Without this, credible deterrent cannot be achieved against China.
RE:Hasten the development of Agni-4
by pecosta on Dec 13, 2007 10:14 PM Permalink
buddy star , we have enough ammunution for china, but we don have enough political will, thats the problem.
RE:Hasten the development of Agni-4
by rajesh doshi on Dec 13, 2007 10:17 PM Permalink
Hi A good analysis; all those who believe is going to keep quiet on its territorial ambitions need to read "the Dragon strikes".
Chinese have Hongkong, Taiwan is being aimed at, they supply military resources to Myanmar and are in control of the energy installations of myanmar more or less, have a dig at Nepal at different times, tibet has been declared by them to be a rightful place for them - nothing left other than the north eastern parts of India which they have been trying to destabilise for over two decades.
India should be vigilant and increase its diplomatice efforts at the global level to ensure that China puts limits on its territorial ambitions.The way ahead is to mobilise global opinion towards ensuring sanctions are imposed on China as only then will it heed advice to global opinion.
Militarily, totally agree with you that India needs to develop long range missile capabilities across all surfaces.
RE:Hasten the development of Agni-4
by Neutronstar on Dec 13, 2007 10:25 PM Permalink
I am pessimistic that diplomatic efforts to contain China can prove successful. China is going to achieve super power status very soon. It is a permanent member of UN security council, with the veto power. So UN cannot impose any sanctions AGAINST China, since China will veto them. USA has its economy dependent a lot on China. So USA can't do much in a diplomatic sense. Russia can't do much against China either. Nor can Europe or Japan.
it seems party time at chinees boder, face n kill the chinees, never move an inch, learn from modi relentless attacker, learn from LTEE they attack in form of unceasing waves.
RE:it seems
by pecosta on Dec 13, 2007 10:02 PM Permalink
hai sid cool down, many things happned in 2002.come with real name what ever ur hindu/muslim/xtian, never fear n hide.
RE:it seems
by coldkiller on Dec 13, 2007 10:01 PM Permalink
stop talking bs and give the proof you moron! and do not gimme that Tehelka crap. tehelka is not CBI!
RE:it seems
by DRP on Dec 13, 2007 10:01 PM Permalink
Killing of Pregnant Woman and Butchering of Children are among the millions of ILLUSIONARY canards our PSEUDO-SICKULAR media throws to fool the junta and please their political masters...
I hope by now you know who OWNS media in India - and why they are so ANTI-INDIA/ANT-HINDU
How come rediff knows all about troop movement? Plus troops are regularly moved back and forth on every ordinary day. No significance can be attached to the story.
Plus, it says "army officials" told rediff???? How come no one else, NDTV, timesofindia, hindustantimes....carried this story.