RE:right
by Verghese on Dec 11, 2007 10:08 PM Permalink
At least know how to pronounce it correctly first - Zazia is Jazia...This happens when you read a lot of Sangh Literature. LOL
RE:Thank God
by gunjan pandey on Dec 11, 2007 10:04 PM Permalink
I agree with your point. Modi can be the proper answer to the fradulent congress government but can you justify what he has done after 2000? Think and then answer because you can type and put your point but that may be heartless.
Sach hi hai.. Saare jaha se achha hindustaan hamara... We have "n" number of religions breathing on here.... Can anyone believe it??? We have Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, etc... Why do we compare our people with the outsiders? Why do we pinch "ALL" muslims by calling them "Pakistani", Why don't we pinch Christians by calling them English??? Why dont we now pinch Sikhs by calling them terrorist?
Why we have a habbit of pinching any community? Why did we name Juhapura area "mini-pakistan"? Are we sure that all the residents of Juhapura are anti-social and pakistan supporters?
If you have a glass, put some water in it and see if glass is half-empty or half-filled. Its just a way our thinking is... If we think, all muslims are pakistani, then why didn't they go to pakistan while seperation? Answer is, most of them felt that Hindustan is their home and they can't leave their home,their people,their land/property, etc..Why??? Did they ever feel, they will be called "resident of mini-pakistan"??
I completely agree with those who say, Gujarat riots started because muslims burnt the train boogey in which most of the hindus were travelling,but what Hindu did afterwards?Did the similar thing? Ok..Leave it now..It happened in past as well, when babri masjid was demolished, the riots happened and the politicians were ready for that too.
We have an active judiciary system(unlike pakistan) atleast I have a faith that someday everybody get the justice.
RE:Saare jaha se achha hindustaan hamara
by zig zag on Dec 11, 2007 10:14 PM Permalink
I repeat after you "Saare jaha se achha hindustaan hamara"
We are puppets in the hands of all the politicians and fail to understand how they twist and play with the minds and feelings of the people of our country.
India will survive and come out to be a better democracy. I am more in the favour of a India that shows tolerance and understanding for all religion(all parties here should practice and preach tolerance rather than hate)
RE:Saare jaha se achha hindustaan hamara
by tulsi K on Dec 11, 2007 11:01 PM Permalink
jab tak apne pe na beete ye philosophical baate bahut acchi lagti he............... Bharat Hindu`s ka he
RE:Saare jaha se achha hindustaan hamara
by Gaurab Sengupta on Dec 11, 2007 10:14 PM Permalink
I agree with a number of points you have raised, Gunjan, but - I think it is a lot easier to take an idealistic view. I live in Hyderabad, where the old city - while not cut off from the rest of the city, is again very different.
I have heard from people - like the driver of a cab I had rented a few days ago - that if you were to by mistake be involved in a traffic incident in the old city, a mob of the local "majority" community would gather in a few seconds - and you would have no option but to apologize irrespective of whose fault it was.
There have also been instances where people in this part of the city have been heard of supporting Pakistan during India Pakistan cricket matches. A few years ago, incidents of stone throwing would be reported every Friday, after prayer time.
I realize it is not fair to draw conclusions about a whole group of people based on the actions of a few, but that is indeed the way the world is. If we do not "pinch" Christians and Sikhs today, it is because of a certain image that members of these communities have built up and maintained.
RE:Saare jaha se achha hindustaan hamara
by gunjan pandey on Dec 11, 2007 10:46 PM Permalink
I agree that Christians haven't been involved in any riots, but Sikhs? If you dont know,I would remind,sikhs have been called terrorists, why???Because some of them actively supported pakistan and pakistan supported them for their Khalistan creation.
Gaurav,I can understand your feelings & I agree with you..But, do you know,People in England, when they see match between Ireland and England supports both the team.I mean, 50% or less than that supports Ireland and 50% supports England..Why? Don't they love their country..
Cricket-Its just another sport... Not a life of all the Indians, cricket is not an answer to any poor in our country... Answer is Roti, kapda aur makaan.. We live in a well concrete house/flat.. We dont know what is happening in poor's home... My only point was that, we shouldn't support any party who asks for the vote on communal base... Will that push poverty far away from us? Its a shame to all of us if poor still dont get food... We are shining, I heard somewhere..
I wouldn't mind if somebody supports Pakistan while watching India-Pakistan match unless he get involved in terrifying the people of India. If somebody (not the entire community) kill innocents he shouldn't freed..
Remember one thing dear, no party supports any community.. Its just a speech they render.. They dont mean it.. They just need our vote during the elections... Why Modi deny the charges against him in Supreme court but justified his action against Sohrabbuddin? Re-think.
RE:Saare jaha se achha hindustaan hamara
by Vijay Addepalli on Dec 11, 2007 10:26 PM Permalink
I live in Hyderabad too and I can only support what Gaurav has said. I have nothing against Muslims but I hate to be an innocent victim for their sporadic and almost baseless anger. Its a sin to be a Hindu in this country, after all who would take our side? This is the only country where the majority lives in fear and is helpless.
RE:Saare jaha se achha hindustaan hamara
by on Dec 11, 2007 10:39 PM Permalink
India is not the only country where Majority lives in FEAR. Norway,Sweden & Britain are the other countries I know where "NATIVES" live in fear of "IMMIGRANT" MUSLIMS. Visit FFI dot ORG for more details.
Whenever we read news paper or hear a news channel speaking about any criminal cases like arm handling or bomb blast why is that it always speaks the names like akbar, mohammad, salim, karim or dawood??? Why no body talk about 87 or 92 riots in mumbai and gujarat where so many hindus were slaughtered...before 2002 riots if someone recalls the experience about visiting juhapura he will say " wahan galti se bhi agar kisi bachhe ko tapli bhi mardi to aap ki kher nahi..abdul, hameed, kasim or na jane kaise kaise gunde aap ko mar pit kar halat kharab kar denge...Ask about any AEC or Torrect electricity bill collector and he will refuse to go and collect the bills amount from juhapura...why??? more than two lakh population of juhapura are using only 8000 odd electricity registered connection ??? what about rest of the house hold ?? do they live without electricity??? what about municipal tax collection figures for juhapura???? have you ever measured the unauthorised owened land by those living in juhapura??? why theres no hindu living within the population of 2 lakh??? while there are lakhs of muslims living in proper hindu populated areas??? answer this question and you will come to know what dirty game CONGRESS has played all these years of ruling by claiming pseudo secularism !!!
RE:A Big Question
by gunjan pandey on Dec 11, 2007 10:05 PM Permalink
Lets kill all muslim in this country.. Then, we won't have any other issues. What do you say?
RE:RE:A Big Question
by Vedprakash Sharma on Dec 11, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
Mr Gunjan pande. To maintain the issue we are not discussing. We do not want to kill muslim. We want to teach them. What do you say?
RE:RE:RE:A Big Question
by gunjan pandey on Dec 11, 2007 10:30 PM Permalink
Mr. Vedprakash Sharma, to be very frank. You can't teach anyone by hatred... You can't scare anyone... If you dont like killing... Then, there are other problems of the country... Why people are just showing hatred against any community? Have they done their job? Are we not responsible for the things happened in past 6 yrs? Are we not responsible for creation of new India? Do you think (Practically) that one community will take down your points and go their respective home and read and by heart what you said to them??? No, its a democracy dear... You have to live with a fact that you can't dominate anyone, you can't kill anyone, you can't participate in the riots (Dont want to get in to argument that who started the killings), I dont believe in killings, but that was a taunt to Mr. Ajay Nayak....
Hi guys, You give power to Congress they will make it reverse. In hyderabad that is what happeneing. You know one MLA- from Majlis, beaten a doctor unnecessarily and now all doctors are in strike from past 15 days , court given a permission to handed over case to CBCID but congress govt donot wanted to do that .. see the partiality.. till now around 40 children are died.. BUT CM donot want all those he want Muslim MLA to be safe.. See for the qualified doctors beaten unnecessarily by a useless fellow .. who doesnt know any .. but these congress fellwo supproting him.. do u feel is Congress going to support professionals..
RE:that is reverse in hyderabad
by Johny Dayal on Dec 11, 2007 10:06 PM Permalink
The UPA Congress govt at the center, took immediate action when the Danish cartoons & Taslima & Rushdie novels were published, expressed concern on the hanging of criminal Saddam Hussein, and lost its sleep over the plight of the families of terrorists Kabeel & Hameed in the wake of UK blasts, had just not bothered to move even an inch over the plight of millions of Hindus suffering in Malaysia. Even after several days of the attack & arrest of Hindus for sedition, the Congress govt has not bothered to express even concern over the atrocities committed by the Malaysian authorities. Remember what happened to Kashmiri pundits. It is a curse to be a curse to be a Hindu under secular govt of Congress leaders.
RE:that is reverse in hyderabad
by Chris on Dec 11, 2007 10:16 PM Permalink
What do yu expect from the Government of WoManmohan Singh and Phoniya Gaandhi. Today, she met with the convicted terrorist Sunjay Dutt, after successfully springing him from prison a second time. Probably, Sunjay Dutt was paying Phonyia the pre-negotiated service chcarges for springing him from prison. I'm sure Phoniy has already deposited the amount into her Swiss bank account.
Why such type of article coming at the time of election? The writer does not know that this indirectly in publicity of Modi itself. Why he does not dare to wirte such thing with repsect to Pakistan? for Kashmiri?
RE:@imran
by imran patel on Dec 11, 2007 10:10 PM Permalink
Lets define "India" from an historic perspective...
My correction. I should have said "SINDH" that includes parts of Afganistan and Pakistan.
Islam was introduced to the south-east in 629AD.
During the period of early Rajput supremacy in north India, during the seventh, the first Muslim invasions were carried out simultaneously with the expansion towards Central Asia. In 664, forces led by Mohalib began launching raids from Persia, striking Multan in the southern Punjab in what is today Pakistan.
In 711, an expedition led by Muhammad bin Qasim defeated Raja Dahir at what is now Hyderabad in Sindh and established Umayyad rule by 712. Qasim subdued the whole of what is modern Pakistan, from Karachi to Kashmir, reaching the borders of Kashmir within three years. After his recall, however, the region devolved into the semi-independent Arab ruled states of Mansura and Multan
RE:@imran
by Verghese on Dec 11, 2007 10:26 PM Permalink
Thank the British We are one..Even at the time of partition India was more than 500 princely state..
RE:@imran
by James Baker on Dec 11, 2007 11:49 PM Permalink
verghese..Why don't ask this question to your pedohile priest...Converted christians in Keral are making a mockery of democracy and you are praising the British. You read British History, they say they saved India and brought civilazation to savavges..You believed them and converted. right??Wrong..Open your eyes and know your own rich history of Keral..There was so much culture and tradition there..Now what you got..beef eating converted christians..trying to break into Ayyapa temple..shame on you mann..
Nothing is going to happen to muslims in gujrat. Its all mere exeggeration.
As long as people are going to live peacefully nothing is going to happen.
BJP is muslim friendly. It calls for equal treatment rather than preferntial treatment of muslims. I hope my friends in muslim comunity would also agree with me that setting double standards is what makes a society fractured.
I urge all muslims to vote for BJP for a stronger India. There is no danger to Muslims in a hindu dominated society. They will prosper.
RE:its exaggeration
by Vedprakash Sharma on Dec 11, 2007 11:00 PM Permalink
Mr Imaran Patel. BJP is a party it is stating that it will treat all commumity equally. This has been proved during the Atalji's rulling. What congress is doing? It is cheating muslims. Conress knows that muslims are more religeous. And congress is taking advantage. Foe example giving immidiate coment on hanging of saddam. What it make differance in muslims daily living. Since neharu's time congress is making muslims fool and now muslims are hadicapped and they cannot think beyond congress. When this came to knew by other partise like SP, BSP JD and others they also started making them fool. When muslims come out of their grab they will be more indinan rather than now. I am sure after independance if Jansngh ( BJP) would have in rulling muslims would have better position and better living taday. Every body would have called and belived them as pure indian.
RE:its exaggeration
by on Dec 11, 2007 10:48 PM Permalink
" RE:its exaggeration by imran patel on Dec 11, 2007 10:01 PM Does it call for preferential treatment of Hindus ?
I am all for equal rights."
Tell this to Dr Israr Ahmed. He is for "Second Class Citizen" status for "Kafirs"!!!
People who say that Hindus were forced to Islam...please read this...
The initial entry of Islam into South Asia came during the life time of Muhammad. Islam was practiced across India during Muhammad's lifetime and this can be seen by the fact that the world's second oldest Masjid to offer Jumma Prayer is in Kerala, India, built in AD 629.
RE:Don't report as abuse...answer it u cowards...
by Raj Royale on Dec 11, 2007 10:02 PM Permalink
list you SOB,
Hindus were historically tolerant people.
If somebody came and built a osque, this was never opposed as Hindus have always believed in respecting peoples point of views.
I can name you several villages in Haryana, where there is a mosque but not a single muslim family in the village, other than the parasitic mulla manning that post.
thats because your religion is parasitic
This implies, that if a mosque was built, it does not guarantee that your religion was parctised there, just that a mosque is your billboard
RE:RE:Don't report as abuse...answer it u cowards...
by sunil nair on Dec 11, 2007 10:03 PM Permalink
India is country for hindus make it clear , muslim are favoured by keeping in india, modi is always right
RE:Don't report as abuse...answer it u cowards...
by ajay nayak on Dec 11, 2007 10:09 PM Permalink
the second oldest masjid in the world is in India shows the secular and friendly nature of Hindu rulers of that time ..this is what indian culture " JO BHI YAHAN PE AAYA YAHIN KA HO GAYA " ,,,,Thats india ...never invaded any country in world though its the oldest civilisation of world..HATS OFF to indian people ...Hats of to indian culture...Hats of to MOTHER INDIA...MOTHER OF THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF MUSLIMS than anywhere in the world...
RE:Don't report as abuse...answer it u cowards...
by pragnesh patel on Dec 11, 2007 10:05 PM Permalink
Imran,
DO you know that in wikipedia anyone can write? You can also and me also........... So how to believe that what you wrote is true> i am not denying you or against .......but can please reply to this question........ If a Hindu write such thing in any Muslim country.....as Pakistan or Soudi!!! what happen to him? you are safe as you are in India.....
RE:Don't report as abuse...answer it u cowards...
by Abbas Rescued on Dec 11, 2007 10:03 PM Permalink
Existence of Masjid in Kerala as early as 629AD shows trade links that India had with Arab world and the tolerance that Indians (Hindus then) had to foreign cultures. Masjid was there probably only for the travellers to pray. It is like the Luz Church in Chennai. Built by Portugese but Portugese never ruled or conquered Chennai. Portugese travellers built the Church as the tolerant Hindu society gave way to building Church in Chennai.
You are talking nonsense dude. Muslim armies did invade India and that is a fact registered in History.
Indians became Muslims only after invasions... same is the case for Christianity as well in India... Please stop blabbering and justifying your slavery...
