The discussion board has been communalised. Rationality has taken a back seat. All sorts of messages are being posted to malign one or the community.
Look election will come and go but we have to live together and peacefully for the rest of our life and create a good environment for the generations to follow.
Be a good Hindu, a good muslim and good humanbeing and become a torch bearer of peace and not hatred.
RE:Peace Not Hatred!!
by asa asa on Dec 12, 2007 10:58 AM Permalink
Mr Sayyed,
It appears from the talks and writings of muslims that they are victim everywhere.
Why as a hindu I should listen to muslims when I see that muslims have partioned our country and inflicted all kind of miseries upon us. What they have done to us is now done by them to the entire world.
Mr Sayyed, have you heard of Guru Tekh Bahadur, he has refused to accept ISlam then he was put on boiling water and entire skin was pilled off. Imagine the pain and plight of that saint.
You people like that only you and your islam that should be and has to accepted and rest should diminish.
Why you have build mosques in the sites of Hindu holiest sites when you in your saudi Arbia even deny British airways employees to wear cross. We have had enough of you and if you think that you are victim then leave this country and live in Kabba and mecca on which you have your complete loyality. Live there as you have embraced foreign religion and live there only.
As for other secular friends, there are three enemies of India...Pakistan, China and these muslims who are inside India as you know that during Kargil War also Imam of Lucknow have refused to offer prayers for Indian Army. Pakistan is bastion of Islam and entire muslims are Islamic Zombies...
They have betrayed us before and they will do it again... Good muslim is circumstantial and exception like needle in stack of hay
RE:Peace Not Hatred!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 12, 2007 11:01 AM Permalink
you seem to belong to Bajrang Dal. If there are people of a particularly community (that you are targeting)who are "anti-national", then there is something wrong in their upbringing. We need to focus on it. If you have a hand that has a sore, do you cut it off? You put medicine. Your type of thinking wants to cut the hand off. But what happens after that? have you thought about it. Besides if you keep of thinking the way you think, you yourself become a sore and fester. So, we have to think of a solution here to convert you into a better Indian that will make the country proud. Isn't it?
RE:Peace Not Hatred!!
by kishor deshmukh on Dec 12, 2007 11:18 AM Permalink
Why do you think any hindu talking some sense and some truth belongs to Bajrang Dal or RSS? Is that the only way of not giving a sensible reply.. I agree from your point of view that muslims are a part of India(probably a sore part), but there has been enough incidents where you dont see them looking at themselves as indian. I think I dont need to remind you of that. When muslims dont want to see themselves as indian what can indians do to convert them into better indian citizen?
RE:Peace Not Hatred!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 12, 2007 11:15 AM Permalink
U have this tendency to go back to ages of kings and say muslims are offenders. That time was different dude everyone fought wars so whats the point. Every terror outfit has his reasons for commiting acts of terror so u mean to say they are innocent. LTTE has attacked muslims in sri lanka many times and also used child suicide bombers so u mean to say they are better than other outfits. From Independence till the Babri Masjid demolition can u tell how many bomb blasts were done by muslims , how many hindus got killed by muslims. The BJP is responsible for creating this atmosphere of communal hatred else hindus and muslims were living peacefully.
This author takes interviews of the locals from Juhapura area which is the muslim (dominated) area; which was famouse for not paying electricity bills and beating the government officials who have came for the recovery. Now there is a remarkable improvement.. Hindus are not allowed to stay or establish any business oppurtunity in this area. Shah-alam where locals(muslims) fires crackers when Pakistan wins a cricket match. These people don't deserve a right to speak on India's unity.
Hindus are very peace loving people but a few communal parties are playing games to divide people and rule which will not augur well for India. High time people realize that peaceful co-existence is the only way ahead.. The leaders pay these goons to create fights between the communities so that they can get votes. Common people are just worried about their daily lives and are least bothered by such things.
RE:RE:Communal Politics!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 12, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
The Middle Class and Lower Class Muslims Like me are too busy making a living and supporting their families by what ever profession they are capable of.The more you hit the common man, the more you turn them your enemies
lets see what muslims have done so far: 1> ruled India for hundreds of years 2> converted Hindus by all means (may be 80% of them in India are converted) 3> spreaded terrorism in world 4> killed so many Hindus in Kashmir and other parts of India 5> terrorise simple people and married and converted so many girls 6> spreaded gundaism with dawood and latif 7> started riots by burning train with hindu pilgrims
and the whole muslim society no matter how educted they are supported all this silently and after getting reactions of all the evil doings and starting of riots with godhara - now they want to break their silence for Modi!!
this reaction is inevitable weathere Modi is there or not! it's reaction of ur karma and will not change with or without Modi...
Oh Indians of reason and common sense, would you like to have an elected representative who is an International Pariah, a person denied entry into international arena due to his complicity in comitting genocide, does our great nation deserve this?
RE:Is not humilation of this great nation? Save India
by Just Kidding on Dec 12, 2007 10:51 AM Permalink
even pakistan should not give visa to bush for what he did in iraq. what do u say?
There was a tragedy. A complete compartment got burned. People died.
OR
There was a conspiracy. A bogie was meticulously burned and its passengers killed.
Be it either ways. What should a government do? Try and get the situation under control, immediately, using all the available resources. Using all available resources, find the cause of the incident. If it is a tragedy, provide succor to the bereaved. If it was a conspiracy, hunt down the accused and put them on trial.
What did actually happen? And therein lies the tragedy. All your short-sighted comments about sob-nobody-talks-about-Hindus-being-killed and Muslims-started-it and Muslims-deserve-it and other very similar comments look eerily like a well oiled plan to not discuss the real issue at all.
You can fool some people all the time, all the people some time but not all the people all the time.
RE:No Justification!!
by kishor deshmukh on Dec 12, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
If Godhara was a conspiracy then Gujrat riots were also a conspiracy? A conspiracy to hurt Narendra Modi's image. How does it feel.. I know I am not right and you know you are also not correct.. Btw how do you conveniently forget that it was not only muslims but also hindus killed in Gujarat riots..
RE:No Justification!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Dec 12, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
U have this tendency to go back to ages of kings and say muslims are offenders. That time was different dude everyone fought wars so whats the point. Every terror outfit has his reasons for commiting acts of terror so u mean to say they are innocent. LTTE has attacked muslims in sri lanka many times and also used child suicide bombers so u mean to say they are better than other outfits. From Independence till the Babri Masjid demolition can u tell how many bomb blasts were done by muslims , how many hindus got killed by muslims. The BJP is responsible for creating this atmosphere of communal hatred else hindus and muslims were living peacefully.
RE:No Justification!!
by kishor deshmukh on Dec 12, 2007 11:24 AM Permalink
Yes probably you didnt hear the bomb blast occuring in Kashmir before Babri demolition.. Probably the ethnic cleansing of hindus in Kashmir did not mean anything to muslims? Why do you think that people who lived peacefully before demolition started supporting BJP? Why would a peaceloving hindu will support BJP if BJP was responsible for all riots in India? Turning a blind eye to one community's despair is not logic Mr Ismail..
Its pitty on people who write so much about (AGAINST)modi.Its the clear indication that these guys oops gays are confused.Any way Modi is handling the battle sindle handedly against all the odds.Thats the true leader after Lla LajpatRai. Bon Voyage to BJP!!!!
RE:RE:Muslim Alienation
by Sameerbhai on Dec 12, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
Partly correct. But remember just because one Muslim engages in some terror activity, we cannot generalise and brand all Muslims as such. In fact all Indians need to understand one another and come closer for Country's sake.
I would like to thank Mr. Firdaus for submitting the report above. i suppose the sole intention of these report was to bash Modi. when you have decided to see some body in dark waters there's no excuse.but i would just like to ask everybody that we all say that everybody is equal as Indians but when it comes to other religions why are they pleading for reservations.why people from other religons enjoy more benefits than Hindus under the sweet name of "Minorities". Congress has been entirely responsible for such divide and hatred in the society. and now they are blaming BJP with the help of few nuts like the one above with such stupid reports. i felt shocked by the fact that congress was targeting BJP and Modi, on the Godhra issue, even after loosing the last elections on the same issue. Modi will win the elections and would return to power, no matter how much you propogate against him.
What Modi has successfully done is highlight for the investment in Gujarat and brazenly take complete credit himself for it. But what is hidden here is the fact that Gujarat has ALWAYS been either 1st or 2nd in that domain since the time it was created. That%u2019s nothing new. But the other things that he brings to the table are: Fake encounters, robbery, insecurity and intimidation of Dalits and Muslims, discrimination of Patels, communalism, heinous polarization of Muslims and Hindus, etc. This is the true tale of Modi's rule in Gujarat.
