RE:Congress will never fight against communalism, only Left can do the job well. It can only possible when people will give support in a good level.
by Srikanth on Dec 07, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
CPM minister has been charged in Rape/kiling case in Kerala and no action has been taken yet. Congress story is known to everyone as they don't want to punish Jagdish tytor and Saajan Kumar for the alleged involvement. We will support CPM for making Nandigram model of Industrilization. Now the Trinamool and CPM are claiming that the bodies found in Nandigram are there workers. See the Kind of work they are doing. Saha we will totally agree with you as left can fight against not only communalization and but also agrees whatever dead bodies found anywhere.
RE:Can any one explain How Modi's speech is communal
by abc on Dec 07, 2007 10:46 AM Permalink
election commission will explain it on saturady... pls wait
RE:Can any one explain How Modi's speech is communal
by Joyee Funee on Dec 07, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
Election commision is also confused and it has indeed asked explaination from Modi
RE:Can any one explain How Modi's speech is communal
by CatchTwentyTwo on Dec 07, 2007 01:09 PM Permalink
Modi's speech is communal becuase:
1. He provokes one community against another (per this article) 2. He justified fake encounters of one community to another community. 3. He was provoked by a comment that a 'foreigner' made... and responded to it among his own countrymen and blamed some of them.
Its a shame to every Indian that Mr. Modi who represents every Gujarati as the head of state was not even allowed to step foot in America as a CM. How can any of you Gujaratis and any of us Indians bear such an insult? Kick this guy out and elect a guy who is not called a terrorist by many in India and many outside.
Please save us from the shame of not being able to even deplore the insult to a position of a CM of a state in India becuase most of us know that he has indeed helped in the killings of many and is truly a merchant of death.
For this converted christian and muslims, who ever speaks of an individual supporting the cause of Hinduism is either RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal member.
My dears I would say that your behaviour to wards has caused this; you attack and kill our bretheren; you dont condemn these attacks; but you want us to be sitting ducks and say silent and accept things cooly.
You would react violently destroy our properties; kill our people when something goes wrong in the Iraq, Saddam is killed; cartoons; palestine; when your goons bomb your places of worship we have to bear the burnt.
Times have changed we are clearly understood your intentions. Things will chage and will be chaged even it goes to the worst.
RE:Paid dogs of Narendra started barking
by Mandrake on Dec 07, 2007 10:16 AM Permalink
can the same be said for the dirty HAND as well....or the bloody SICKLE....
RE:Paid dogs of Narendra started barking
by abc on Dec 07, 2007 10:17 AM Permalink
correct... We should only say Modi not BJP.. rebels are actual BJP.. he will be kicked out from BJP after this election...
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:16 AM Permalink
Buddhadeb has said sorry and withdrawn his statements. End of story.
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:19 AM Permalink
send him the bill
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Joyee Funee on Dec 07, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
If Modi withdrwas his statement will U say him Secular ?
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
He has to say sorry for 2002 Gujarat riots .. he will be forgiven.
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Surya Kanishka on Dec 07, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
@ Anurag Srivastava
Please note that the people involved 1984 riots were not lower cadre but HKL Bhagat, Sajjan Kumar, Jagdish Tytler, Lalit Makken etc Some these people where central Cabinet ministers; these where substancially gifted later on for their acts in 1984.
RE:RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:48 AM Permalink
All these "gentlemen" you mentioned lived fairly miserable lives in the last 20 years. I don't think ( correct me if I am wrong ) either Manmohan or Narsimha Rao ever gave them anything important. And BJP and Janta Dal despite being in power for 9 years in the interim did not do anything to them.
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Joyee Funee on Dec 07, 2007 10:33 AM Permalink
Why dont u tell Congress to say sorry for 1984 Sikh Riots
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
they have done that publicly long time back though main perpetrators were low level congress and RSS functionaries. Congress also won the elections in Punjab which means even the Sikhs have forgiven them.
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
Don't be ridiculous - Modi won the elections because he was in the side of majority Hindus in whom he had installed the fear of other. Congress won the votes of Sikhs which are opposed to him. Please use some thinking before posting.
RE:RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Joyee Funee on Dec 07, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
Anurag Even BJP has won since Guj. riots all Elections.
Modi has also said many time What happened in Guj was unfortunate
So ppl of Gujarat has already forgiven them and now also keep quite to speak againt Modi
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Joyee Funee on Dec 07, 2007 10:59 AM Permalink
Anurag it seems u have gone nuts get your facts corrected In last election Modiji has taken out the fear out of Hindus and that is why he won
And that is not digestable to todays Media and UPA so there is so much hue and cry
Hindus have been fearful citizens for so long Modi took out fear from them in 2002
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Suman Bhat on Dec 07, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
innocentppl were masscared by jamat goondas and communists thugs in nondi gram but it is not big deal for ind pseudo secular media most section of so called natioan channels and print and electronic media is against modi. WB CM is surrended to mulla jiahid terorists. the brutal killing nondi gram is diverted by taslim issue and now WBCM is speaking agaisnt Bhagawan Sri Ramachandra nondi gram was hyjacked by illegal immigrants of bangladeshi mulsim and mullas even WB police can not enter the village. so called ngos, HR activitsts Human right commision minority commission never made any noise about nodigram killings only noise made about guj riot not even any bomb blast, other communa riots like in bagalpur, meerut, ajmera mangalore,hyderbad, and 4 sikh riot anyting and everyting for muslim votes
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by ashish pande on Dec 07, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
Do u know why thr is prob in Kashmir...It is not bcause of pak...it is bcause of the muslims living there. they r openly supporting the terrorists there. Dont u know how KPS gill handled terrorism in Punjab.Similar way is needed in Kasmir.
Whenever an innocent kashmiri muslim youth is killed by security forces...large muslim crowd openly chant anti-india slogans there. It does not happens when terrorist killed any muslim. 50% of the problems india facing is due to this minority politics, sceudo-secularism..there r many issues like this..
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Srikanth on Dec 07, 2007 11:17 AM Permalink
Do you think the words Historic blunders and Sorry will help the victims?. You can kill and allow rapping and say sorry, I wonder we are in a good environment.
RE:If Buddha can Justify Voielece in Nandigram by its cadres Why Modi can not
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
Sorry is a good start. Law will take its own course and guilty punished. Sorry has a larger political ramification for a politician...it sort of diminishes him in front of his followers. Modi saying sorry for post Godhra riots is a death sentence for his political ambitions. Rajiv Gandhi never said sorry for what happened to Sikhs because that would be admission of guilt. But Congress as a party can do that because that will help it move forward.
RE:Modi
by abc on Dec 07, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
why ? after getting the power modi will start serving muslims in Kashmir.. because next time they can only bring him back in power... don't expect anything from him.. he is just a divider nhting else...
RE:RE:Modi
by ashish pande on Dec 07, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
hi Man, Do u know why thr is prob in Kashmir...It is not bcause of pak...it is bcause of the muslims living there. they r openly supporting the terrorists there. Dont u know how KPS gill handled terrorism in Punjab.Similar way is needed in Kasmir.
Whenever an innocent kashmiri muslim youth is killed by security forces...large muslim crowd openly chant anti-india slogans there. It does not happens when terrorist killed any muslim. 50% of the problems india facing is due to this minority politics, sceudo-secularism..there r many issues like this..
RE:Modi
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:13 AM Permalink
pandeji - arresting second rate criminals , calling them terrorists and bumping them off is one thing. Fighting terror needs a man of steel not shadow warriors... the army is fighting terror well in all these parts . Modi cannot even handle a verbal encounter with Karan Thapar , if he goes to Kashmir, he will lose his bowel and bladder control.
Thanks for your advice even though it is the most foolish one I have come accross.
RE:Modi
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:34 AM Permalink
Are you blind or something ? we are talking of terrorists and not two bit criminals. We will discuss that when that topic comes up.
RE:Modi
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:58 AM Permalink
They were suicide terrorists who came to die. And they were handled by SPG flown specially from Delhi and their death was certain. C'mon - better examples than that are expected from you now that you claim to be an expert.
RE:Modi
by Mandrake on Dec 07, 2007 10:20 AM Permalink
@AS if verbal encounter means anything all the guys in Rediff can handle terrorism...since all of them seem to be argumentative... the stupid Abhishek Singvi can become a CM because of his verbal control. The guy just denies everything or blames anything ...a guy who has not spoken anything with a sense of responsibility...do you think he is fit to become a CM...(reflects Sonia's image)
RE:Modi
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
Typical ... bring unrelated issues to divert attention from the main issue. Abhishek Singhvi is a nobody and has no pretensions of any higher role than what he is doing. However - a man who cannot defend himself in unfamiliar surroundings is very weak. I am 100% sure he will lose bowel and bladder control in a tough situation.
RE:Modi
by ashish pande on Dec 07, 2007 11:34 AM Permalink
Hi Anurag, Dont think me as anti-Muslim. I am a very modern person. I ma not a harcore hindu.Even I have a intercaste marriage. I also believe in secularism. But I dont like sceudo-secularism. Critising Muslims is like a crime.The so called secular parties r doing vote bank politics. We want Indian muslims like the other common peaceful indians but they r also r becoming talibani.They always try to keep their identity as mulslims. Whenever there is ganesh festival thr is a tension in muslim area.when there is need to remove darga while making road there is tension. thr r lot of such cases.... why this happens only with muslims...not with others..??
RE:Modi
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 11:45 AM Permalink
Sure - you should also see my posts on Congress and left front to see my opposition to their attempts to appease the fundamentalist elements amongst muslims. I have always maintained that Hindu fundamentalism is a direct reaction to Islamic resurgence and aggression.
Two wrongs do not make a right. Anyone planning murder of innocent people, like in Gujarat riots, to get votes is a criminal and not just an "appeaser" . There are freedoms which our independence has given us and fascists must never be allowed to take them away in the name of fighting terror when they are actually just inventing stuff.
RE:Modi
by ashish pande on Dec 07, 2007 10:35 AM Permalink
hi Man, Do u know why thr is prob in Kashmir...It is not bcause of pak...it is bcause of the muslims living there. they r openly supporting the terrorists there. Dont u know how KPS gill handled terrorism in Punjab.Similar way is needed in Kasmir.
Whenever an innocent kashmiri muslim youth is killed by security forces...large muslim crowd openly chant anti-india slogans there. It does not happens when terrorist killed any muslim. 50% of the problems india facing is due to this minority politics, sceudo-secularism..there r many issues like this..
RE:RE:Modi
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
pande - like it or not , Muslims are a majority in valley and they are not going to disappear. The solution has to be found which makes them feel its better to be part of India and I think that is already happening - India is shining and Pakistan is going to dogs.
Sikh terrorism got over because the terrorists themselves became corrupt and lost all local support. Post that it was easy for KPS Gill and cops to go and isolate and finish them off. The Congress chief minister Beant Singh had a huge role to sort out the political side of the equation to isolate Khalistanis - and he died for it.
RE:RE:Modi
by Srikanth on Dec 07, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
Dear Anurag I read your comments and it is really importial. I feel you are not wearing anybody's hat
RE:Modi
by ashish pande on Dec 07, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
but terrorists in kasmir r getting huge local support na... Dont u think the terrorists in Kashmir r also corrupt.. Dont u know that the muslims there have eliminated the kashimri pundits out of their land... u have given exaple of Beant Singh...Yes he has played a big role...I am saying same..we need leader like him..
RE:Modi
by Anurag Shrivastava on Dec 07, 2007 11:35 AM Permalink
At the moment yes - terrorists have some degree of support - much like in the 80s a large majority of Sikhs supported terrorists. Even now some jokers have put up Bhindranwale's portrait in Golden Temple and "deshbhakt" parties are quite because Akali is their ally. Terrorists in Kashmir are becoming corrupt and their doomsday is not far behind. A regular Kashmiri wants peace and prosperity much like you and I do. I have Kashmiri Pandit friends who never left Srinagar in the first place !
It is always natural law that takes over..... u kill and I kill, You love and I love.
Nothing more or less.....that is humans have been surviving on this planet.
Hate and get hated love and get loved.....ultimate secret of survival....those who kill killers will inherit the planet which runs on principles of HUMANITY... Hell with killer RELIGIONS. They are a blot on humanity !!!
RE:Can any one explain How Modi's speech is communal
by Fact on Dec 07, 2007 10:46 AM Permalink
i agree wid u my friend...sometime,I have doubt on E.C role in this election.....
The general impression created in the press by the journalists is that Modi is a staunch Hindutwa philosopher who has killed several minority persons after Godhra. Now we know that neither he is staunch Hindutwa nor a staunch hater of minotity. He is similar to any of the politicians in the field,whether congress or communist or MIM. It is unfortunate that after Nehru/Kidwai/Patel era we do not have any leaders doing work for the common man. We have leaders working from the first day of election-first year collecting all election expenses incurred, second year creating stories to defame the preveous party and govt, third year instituting enquiries to investigate alleged irregularities done by preveous govts,fourth year proving that they have done a great job in exposing their adverseries and final year put on the garb of fighting for the common man for coming in the next election. So why blame only Modi,blame ourselves to have elected all of them Successive govts have done the same thing as otherwise how do you explain 1.the great exodus of Pundits from Kashmir.Nobody questions the kashmir Govt for injustice done to them,they are still languishing in refugee camps. 2. the heinous crimes done against sikhs only to please the then in the govt 3.Nobody delves or questions the culprits of Godhra incident but everybody shouts the incidents after Godhra because it can give them votes.The incidents after the blue star operation are spontaneous reaction but those after Godhra a
Modi bashing calling him anti muslim hindtva vaadi or murder is daily news in indian english printand electronic print media. ind media is running with islamphobia. anything hapens in this country it is bcuz of modi,bjp,hindu orgs if modi calles devil musharaf how it hurts sentiments of muslim s in ind or how it is communal? secular PM says he wants first share for msulim in natioanl resources is not communal. mafia communists says they want muslim vice prsd adn pawwant muslim cm in bhiar is also communal. upa was very quick to sent protest against danish govt against cartoon but why it is silent against descrimination agianst hindus in malasiay. secular K nidi and communist buddas WB CM are telling ram does not exit why they don't ask for proof for alla or jesus? where are voices of teests, j akthar shabana, amirkhan hamid ansari, batilwala irfan habid when innocent ppl butchered in Nodigram by muslim thungs, commuinist goodas?IND PASEUDO SEUCAR MEDIA MUSLIM COMMUNITY ARE ALWAYS INNOCENT, SPOTLESS AND PATRIOTIC
taslima highlighted the HR violation by jamat good=ndas in bangladesh how it is against islam or muslim? Why ind news channels, minority commission, ngos HR activists never discuss about the genocidal masscare and ethenic cleansing of kashnirri pundits from the valley/ secular congress implimented shariay law in valley how can it be secular upa govt is protecting terrorists like geelani, jelani, madani abusalem afjal guru etc.. s Sky is limit for secular p
RE:Indian secularism has double standard
by ashish pande on Dec 07, 2007 10:07 AM Permalink
persons like Modi should be CM of states like Kashmir, West bengal & Asssam. The problems will definetly be solved.
RE:Indian secularism has double standard
by abc on Dec 07, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
after he loose this election.. ask him to fight in assam or kashmir...
RE:Indian secularism has double standard
by Suman Bhat on Dec 07, 2007 09:56 AM Permalink
upa is not only anti hindu it is anti natinonl. upa govt is degrading and defaming ind army /security force, education and judicial system. upa govt completly surrended to miula jiahdi force ANYTHING AND EVEFRYTHING FOR MSULIM VOTES if congress and commies and lalau mulayam k nidi play musim card and bjp play hindu card how come bjp communal ? anything related to hindu is communal and anything related muslim is secualr ind secular govt should loote mosqes, dargaas, churches as the way govt is looting hindu temples secular k nidni should install pariyar statue infront of mosqes dargaas and churches the way he did in front of temples in TN budda and k nidi ask proof for alla and jesus If muslim mjority state can impliment shariaya law, then hindu mejority state should impliment hindu law AFTER ALL INDIA IS SECUAAR DEMOCRATIC
