Mrs Sheela I really dont understand your hatred about hindus. You call all hindu organizations Hindutva brigade but i never heard about any other religion's organization which threaten our country India (I really dont see u as an indian). These kind of baised media destroy our county on the cummunal lines. I been following rediff for 1 year but i find rediff more communal than any other religios organization. More precisiusly Mrs Sheela Bhatt i dont understand ur baised writting about specific ppl for couple of bucks. Just because of ppl like YOU Indians still devided on communal line you sould stop these dirty work for God Shake.
RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by farid patel on Dec 05, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
Jihad means to strive and to struggle. There are differnt type of jihad one type is to control over one desire, to serve parents, to make perfect hajj, also to speak against tyran ruler, and one type is self defense for life and property
RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by wada pav on Dec 05, 2007 09:00 PM Permalink
what type of jihad did the following heroes of islam fight ?
Mohammad Bin Qasim Mohammad Ghori Mohammad Ghazni Allauddin Khilji Bakhtiyar khilji Ferozshah Tughlaq kutubuddin aibak babur aurangzeb ahmad shah abdally taimur-lang nadir shah
RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by wada pav on Dec 05, 2007 09:04 PM Permalink
there are 100's more , who fought unprovoked wars on hindus/sikhs/buddhists/jains. their wars were of aggression and not self defense. they came with three motives. 1.wealth 2. women 3. islam
the first two are promised to them in the koran and hadiths if they spread the third.
RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by Satakarni on Dec 05, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
So Mohammed changes his words according to the situation. That doesn't really seem like a messenger of god trying to sell god's message. It's more like mohammed is trying to sell his own message.
RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by farid patel on Dec 05, 2007 08:56 PM Permalink
ihad means to strive and to struggle. There are differnt type of jihad one type is to control over one desire, to serve parents, to make perfect hajj, also to speak against tyran ruler, and one type is self defense for life and property
RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by Pyare on Dec 05, 2007 09:04 PM Permalink
Instead of understanding What is Jihad, first understand What is Islam. What you have written is true but in different context. So without understanding there is no point in just refering to certain quotes. Even in Mahabhrat it quotes Krishna telling Arjuna to kill your brothers, do we do that. Its a quote which is true in that context and point of time. The reason one can say Quran is the final word of God is because of the fact that it was revealed on a person who didnt know how to read and write. Do you think its possible for someone to write it on his own being a illeterate, without it being Gods word. And there are various scientific facts in Quran which modern science is discovering today. Well its shere common sense but unfortunately common sense is not common
RE:RE:Try to understand WHAT IS JIHAD
by farid patel on Dec 05, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
ihad means to strive and to struggle. There are differnt type of jihad one type is to control over one desire, to serve parents, to make perfect hajj, also to speak against tyran ruler, and one type is self defense for life and property
"the meek shall inherit the earth" - The Bible There is no greater truth than this.Love one another and be humble and try to do good in this short life.
RE:worship God in humble way
by Rakesh Nandakumar on Dec 05, 2007 08:49 PM Permalink
(st)..upid, understand what cherian meant first.. "Love one another and be humble and try to do good in this short life." becos its from bible u came up with ur shitty comment?? wat a jerk!
I invite all my hindu and muslim brother to go back to authentic scriptures and come to common terms There is only one God worship him alone without any partners. dont worship idols, humans, animals, created things sun moon etc. worship the one Creator who created everything that's the straight path and core message of vedas and Quran
RE:commonalities between two faith
by sonia gupta on Dec 05, 2007 10:23 PM Permalink
While I accept your right to Believe in one God and worship one God, you must accept my right to worship Idols, humans, sun, moon, trees, etc. And we can coexist peacefully
RE:commonalities between two faith
by wada pav on Dec 05, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
that means one should not visit mecca and go around kaaba ( a stone and not god).
RE:commonalities between two faith
by farid patel on Dec 05, 2007 08:45 PM Permalink
well thanks for asking about my religion Mr WAda(lol) kaaba is not a stone or idol Muslim belive in unity so kaaba is direction for the muslim to pray suppose you are in any part of world you will look for which direction the kaaba is and you will play in that direction. It is nothing more than for a direction. In ancient days people used to stand on it to give azaan. no idol worshiper would stand on its idol. In islam, we worship the one Creator To worship created things is disbelief.
RE:commonalities between two faith
by wada pav on Dec 05, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
If kaaba is just a signpost for giving directions , why do you guys have to go around it in circles when you visit mecca? we dont go around in circles around our signposts.
The truth is, its not a signpost, it was a holy stone of pre-islamic arabs. mohd. confiscated it from them and it was considered holy in islam too.
RE:commonalities between two faith
by wada pav on Dec 05, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
Hadith Sahih Bukhari Volume 2, Book 26, Number 671: Narrated Ibn Abbas:
When Allahs Apostle came to Mecca, he refused to enter the Kaaba with idols in it. He ordered (idols to be taken out). So they were taken out. The people took out the pictures of Abraham and Ishmael holding Azlams in their hands. Allahs Apostle said, "May Allah curse these people. By Allah, both Abraham and Ishmael never did the game of chance with Azlams." Then he entered the Kaaba and said Takbir at its corners but did not offer the prayer in it.
RE:commonalities between two faith
by wada pav on Dec 05, 2007 08:49 PM Permalink
'Ekam Satya Vividham dadhanti' -- Aadi Shankaracharya
means ' One truth and multiple ways of acheiving it '. Thats what hinduism is all about. we do beleive in one supreme god. but we also beleive that there are multiple ways of worship. and one way is to worship the different facets of the supreme god.( to personify individual characteristics/powers of the supreme god as individual gods ). whats wrong in that ? did ur prophet prove that there is only one god ? he just made a statement.So its just a theory. even worshipping idols is a theory.both theories are at the same level,bcos both are scientifically unproven.
RE:commonalities between two faith
by farid patel on Dec 05, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
whats wrong with my message. Is it wrong to work for peace, Is it wrong to unite two communities. Will it work for country? yes, definately it will. only if selfish people like you don't interfere. People like you for your own selfish motives, derail the truth.
RE:RE:commonalities between two faith
by farid patel on Dec 05, 2007 08:47 PM Permalink
Thanks cupid for asking me about my religion. In Quran God has said that this life is a test for here after. This life is a test for us and depending upon that we will be rewarded in the next life. That is the purpose of creation. To worship and serve God alone on his terms. and That's islam submission your will to God
RE:commonalities between two faith
by George Godd on Dec 05, 2007 08:55 PM Permalink
The wrong in your messege is that it's for Hindu and Muslims . Actuly it should be for Muslims. Hindus have 33 caror Bhagvans in addition they also respect Mahavir , Buddha , nanak and many more . Thay can also respect Mohhamnd provised muslims also respect other religions and country they liuve in
