From your language it seems that you are totally against of RSS. Have u ever been to a RSS sakha? What do you know about their ideology? Do not go with what Congress or Mayawati say. I advise you to first go to any nearby RSS sakha and participate in their activities for a few days. Tell them about your cast...you will find that no one will discriminate you on the basis of your cast and if you think that RSS is anti muslim than also watch that how many times they make any plan or discuss to kill any muslim. RSS is a patriotic organization...every Hindu is welcomed without any sort of discrimination. They dnt go to any muslim and Christian to ask for conversion...but they are always ready to help a human being without any sort of discrimination.
CONGRESS HAS NO MANDATE with less than 1/3rd of representation in the parliament to decide on the future of the country. They are behaving as though they have majority of their own in the parliament. People should teach them a lessson.
I think our beloved PM does not like to be questioned. He thinks he can do whatever he likes and whatever he does is good for the country??? As the PM of the country he should have the patience to listen to others views and provide satisfactory answers. He should take criticisms in the right spirit and should not behave in a manner that will belittle his office.
All the MPs have a right to question and i is the duty of the Govt to answer. Instead of answering if there is a reaction, as by the PM, then it only means that the Govt and the PM have something to hide and they are trying to use might to stop the MPs from questioning.
As per PM's'statement if the approval from IAEA is the issue then why aggrement paper was made ready?Why india has to compensate fornot signing it by paying Russia extra cost (Asian Age news report)?American intelligence report on iran has expose Bush's political hipocracy but PM is obediently kneeling down before him on Iran issue and saying in parliament india is not bowing to US pressure''.Are you honest Mr Prime Minister in your answer?
Has the Government of India ever considered harvesting solar energy and investing in water catchments after all those heavy rains and uncontrolled floodings. India is blessed with both, except that vested interest has put these sources on the back burner. As for nuclear energy, India should guard against nuclear-waste and figure out how to dispose the same.
RE:India can harvest solar and hydro energies!
by my message on Dec 05, 2007 07:42 AM Permalink
Does it give political benefits and does it line their pockets??? If yes, sure, if no then forget it!!!!
RE:India can harvest solar and hydro energies!
by ASHOK on Dec 05, 2007 09:03 AM Permalink
You do not have to count political benefits and need not grease someones palm.
Do it at your home , have solar panels lined up and start reducing some base load than talk ECONOMICS OF SOLAR POWER. Otherwise do not show a PIE IN THE SKY.
RE:India can harvest solar and hydro energies!
by soami prasad on Dec 05, 2007 05:17 AM Permalink
Yes, this is one of the good option. Recently I watched in Discovery channel the misshap of neuclear reactor in Russia and how they contained with lead powder , how people enter into the radiation zone to fill concreate , after effects. skin ,eye dieases etc .I could not sleep that night.
RE:India can harvest solar and hydro energies!
by ASHOK on Dec 05, 2007 07:32 AM Permalink
Ramesh Kapoor >> It is not Govt of India to consider using Solar power.Both Solar power and wind energy are in Private sector and as you know Private sector is very efficient. Suzlon ( Tulsi Tanti) for Wind turbines and TataBp ( JV between Tata & British Petroleum) for solar Panels are doing a great job. It is you and me who has to consider using them. So better invest in having a solar panel on your roof top with storage Battery invertors to utilise atleast Solar energy. This will save some part from Natinal Grid.(However small it maybe)
Whole thing is >> It is damn expensive and on the Intrest cost on Capital Investment you can still buy Electricity from National Grid without loosing your capital Investment ( Which remains intact in you bank)
Thsse guys on the net have no idea what it costs to have 500 to 700 units of electricity through solar panels ( at the press of button on 24x7x365 basis)
Guys like Yaswant Sinha do not take any issue because of conviction, even he is in BJP because of opportunism, not because he believes in BJP ideology, the party offers ready made cadre based support and some mass base, that is why he is in BJP. Now he is opposing N-deal on the basis of hollow and shallow, just to make his presence felt.
RE:Politics of opportunism
by my message on Dec 05, 2007 07:52 AM Permalink
By your own argument, the alliance between Congress and Communists is just another example of opportunitism. By virtue of this, the PM does not have a right to finalise such a deal.
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by ASHOK on Dec 05, 2007 09:18 AM Permalink
You mean progress should stop if we have a coalition Govt.
I am happy atleast MM Singh discussed and took the Nuclear issue to a workable stage.
If it fails to operationalise, as Indian I have no regrets. I can afford Gasoline at 100Rs per litre and electricity at 10 Rs per unit but I will like to see how these commies handle masses , when they cry foul on Electricity shortage and also what answer BJP has at that time.
MM Singh worked within legal frame work of Indian constitution to finalise the deal.
These are all afterthoughts to have the deal discussed on the floor of Parliaments.
If all these politicians are so concerned about Indian Masses than they should have first corrected the constitution and made it mandatory to discuss such deals in the parliament ( as is done in US).
Why BJP or Commies are not moving o those Lines.
In future what happens if Future PM has to decide a critical deal with Russia.
More recently why 347 T90 Repeat Tank order was allowed to be placed on Russia without disscussing in parliament. Deal is in billions. Why no tenders were floated
RE:Politics of opportunism
by Nilesh on Dec 05, 2007 01:43 AM Permalink
Did Sinha mention anywhere that he's opposing the nuke deal ? He's saying that India bowed out to the USA pressure, otherwise we had the reactors deal with russia. He seems to be correct in saying that becoz indians went to Russia with the deal papers etc, that means they were ready. The what couold go wrong at that moment ?
RE:Politics of opportunism
by ASHOK on Dec 05, 2007 09:08 AM Permalink
gentleman when Putin came to India in Jan or Feb 2007, 4 more reactors were agreed. BUT with a rider that we will go through IAEA.
Also remeber that Russia pushes India towards signing NPT!! That will mean total submission.
Right now Russia is not a Uranium source it supplies uranium after buying and cocentarting it.
So India has to agree and set deals with Westren world. Both India & Russia Knows that.
Solar and Wind energy, if promoted by the GOVERNMENT properly can fulfil every requirement. The money which we are investing in Nuclear reactors and Hydroelectricity etc. should be diverted in form of SUBSIDIES to the LARGE SCALE promotion of renewable sources of energy. Otherwise all our slogans on environmenmtal conservation will be slogans only. And I request readers to do some more research before writing anything against any idea. Why do we see everything so negatively? To quote a report by Rob Edwards published in "The New Scientist" , 10th June 2006 (Magazine issue 2555),"In the mountain village of Kara Agach in Kyrgyzstan, people are unwittingly eating radioactive waste. Radium left behind by more than two decades of uranium mining during the Soviet era has contaminated their chickens,milk, potatoes and pears." THIS IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE.... Till what time will we live in stone age? Everything must be decided on the merits and demerits & on purely scientific grounds. What is the point in ignoring the freely available energy and kissing the death? If we could start to see the things in more correct light, we can save our nature from more extinction. With warm regards, Chetan Upadhyaya, Satya Foundation
RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by nandu rajurikar on Dec 04, 2007 11:43 PM Permalink
Wind energy will fulfill all our requirements. Please qualify that staement with backup data.
How much pollution is caused for making the Solar cells / panels? Is it economically viable?
Remove subsidies & then compare solar / wind power with nuclear power. Think of using the subsidies on safety measures & right disposal at nuclear reactors.
RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by ASHOK on Dec 05, 2007 12:01 AM Permalink
I wonder no one has come out and started claiming a solar cell from COW DUNG. Maybe some one will spring out a shloka from Veda's and claim Electricity generation from Go Mutra as electrolyte.
Gentlemen be practical , Nuclear Energy has safety issues >> But India has a good track record. Also it is true that making solar panels is indeed Energy intensive, it can not be made by the flick of a finger.
RE:RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by SATYA FOUNDATION on Dec 05, 2007 02:00 AM Permalink
Experts claim that if made on a large scale, the effective cost of production (Solar/wind)will come down drastically. And remember, I am asking for complete shift in the government policy. If the money spent in Nuclear energy/Hydropower and fossil fuels is diverted to the RENEWABLE SOURCES of energy, the cost will come to affordable limits. And if a company like google has shaken hands with Nanosolar, we may see a new revolution in just 1 to 2 years. So, my simple question is: If google can do it, why can't India and the Indian government? Why can't we be SOLAR SUPER POWER??? I want everyone on this site to do some more research and homework before writing anything negative against the idea. We don't need coal and petrol/diesel nor the Nuclear energy. Just Solar and Wind are sufficient to meet up all our needs. Only that way we will be able to strike balance between the progress and the nature!!! Regards, Chetan Upadhyaya, Satya Foundation
RE:RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by my message on Dec 05, 2007 08:02 AM Permalink
Russia also probably had a good track record till some accident!!!!! And if the track record of India does show even one mishap, then it will be us Indians (You Mr. Ashok included) that will pay a price.
RE:RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by ASHOK on Dec 05, 2007 09:00 AM Permalink
I work in offshore Oil industry and face challenges of nature almost every day.I consider Nuclear energy much more safe and NO carbon Dioxide producing.
Here it is not a question of belief and right to say.
Question is of choices and the cost you pay to get say 500 units of Clean Electricity per home per month. If we still do not have economical alternative than let MM Singh do what he is doing..
RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by my message on Dec 05, 2007 07:59 AM Permalink
You dont have to be insulting to peoples' beliefs to get your point of view across. Neither do you have to whip the Vedas for your arguments.
Anyway, for your information, Cow Dung is being used as a fuel in the villages and it is working economically well to many poor people. But, that is not the point of this post.
RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by Rakesh Bhandary on Dec 05, 2007 01:17 AM Permalink
"Radium left behind by more than two decades of uranium "...... Which equation or reaction states this? Nuclear power is reliable, especially when India needs it in this period of economic boom. Wind power is highly subject to climatic changes and the amount of power needed in India means that there is not enough steel to manufacture this number of wind turbines. In long term, we have to focus on alternative forms of energy but the need now is for more power without increasing greenhouse gas output. Believe me, this greenhouse gas issue will be used as a pretext by western powers to pull our progress down.
CPI(M) or BJP does not give a toss to the real issues. Had BJP been in power and suggested this deal, Congress would have opposed it!
Long live Indian politics.... our bane and an international humiliation.
So please get your nuclear physics correct before quoting some unknown person in an unknown magazine!!
RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by Bhupendra Singh on Dec 05, 2007 02:02 AM Permalink
How do u see Nuclear energy as the reliable option in this era of economic boom? In which country do you live Mr. Rakesh Bhandary? It seems that you don't read newspapers and magazines. Even in the parliament, we heard that day that Nuclear energy, if developed on a war-footing basis (read very large scale, even after the proposed India-US nuclear deal can't give more than 7 percent of our total National energy needs. And by optimistic means, reaching this level may only be possible by the year 2020. And the risks involved in it are still very high. Even our Nuclear scientists (read Indian scientists) are divided over this issue. So, why can't we harness the required power from Solar, Wind, biomass and other sources of Renewable energy? Bhupendra Singh
RE:RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by SATYA FOUNDATION on Dec 05, 2007 01:51 AM Permalink
You go to google.com get not one but many such results; not only in one place or country, but at many places...And you are doubtful about Wind energy without caring to know that there are many states where you get enough wind throughout the year. So, please get ur GK corrected. And u have not mentioned solar, whereas Solar energy is one field where we can be super power. Boss, may be u r some 'progressive citizen', who is ardent lover of nuclear physics, but you must appreciate that Google has recently entered the field of Solar energy by collaborating with Nanosolar. The idea of your Nuclear energy may be very good for a small country, but for a big country like India, tapping the renewable sources of energy is the best option. And in case, you are still unsatisfied with the reply, you can mail me for getting detailed data and comparative analysis with concrete Statistics. Actually, it is not the problem with you, but many 'great and intellectual' people that they tend to forget that 'Progress is the realisation of Utopias'. Getting energy from Sun and wind may appear to be utopian idea, but remember, only they are going to save our planet from more degradation. And why to throw mud on other countries for green house emissions, when we ourselves are making the environment so 'clean'? The contribution of Nuclear energy in total energy scenario is 3% and by all means you can't go beyond 6-7% and that too by 2020. SO THINK SOLAR/WIND/RENEWABLE RESOURCES. Chetan Upadhyaya
RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by ASHOK on Dec 04, 2007 11:34 PM Permalink
Chetan >> more people die every year in offshore oil exploration and production than those who died in Nuclear plant accidents.
Leave Russia alone. They have very poor safety record in nuclear technology to submarines.
Nothing ventured nothng gained. You have to tweak the nature or else go back to Jungles and forget all this progress.
Also do not talk about Govt subsidy. Just tell me How I can get 700 units of electricity per month. Solar or wind, and what will be space requirement and what will be Maintainance cost. (For Batteries / Inverter)
RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by SATYA FOUNDATION on Dec 05, 2007 01:51 AM Permalink
You go to google.com get not one but many such results; not only in one place or country, but at many places...And you are doubtful about Wind energy without caring to know that there are many states where you get enough wind throughout the year. So, please get ur GK corrected. And u have not mentioned solar, whereas Solar energy is one field where we can be super power. Boss, may be u r some 'progressive citizen', who is ardent lover of nuclear physics, but you must appreciate that Google has recently entered the field of Solar energy by collaborating with Nanosolar. The idea of your Nuclear energy may be very good for a small country, but for a big country like India, tapping the renewable sources of energy is the best option. And in case, you are still unsatisfied with the reply, you can mail me for getting detailed data and comparative analysis with concrete Statistics. Actually, it is not the problem with you, but many 'great and intellectual' people that they tend to forget that 'Progress is the realisation of Utopias'. Getting energy from Sun and wind may appear to be utopian idea, but remember, only they are going to save our planet from more degradation. And why to throw mud on other countries for green house emissions, when we ourselves are making the environment so 'clean'? The contribution of Nuclear energy in total energy scenario is 3% and by all means you can't go beyond 6-7% and that too by 2020. SO THINK SOLAR/WIND/RENEWABLE RESOURCES. Chetan Upadhyaya
RE:Why are parties silent on SUBSIDIES to RENEWABLE energy sector?
by pragya nopany on Dec 05, 2007 02:09 AM Permalink
It is really pathetic that no one is pointing towards the REAL target. To me, FOSSIL FUEL, HYDROELECTRCITY & NUCLEAR ENERGY- are the 3 biggest demons and anybody supporting them is actually killing the planet. The big question is: Why nuclear when it can't give more than 6% of our total energy needs(and that too by 2020)? How long will we bear the the bruises of ignorance and slavery? There is something terribly wrong with the mindset of our leadership and the people. Everybody knows that the NUCLEAR WASTE MANAGEMENT is IMPOSSIBLE, but still we Indians continue to give logic in favour of the Nuclear energy. US has not built even a single nuclear reactor after 1979 and wants to sell us the 'rejected and HAZARDOUS technology'. And we have closed our eyes and proving our 'progressive attitude' by singing songs of praise for the Nuclear energy. Have we gone really mad? As Mr. Lakshman Singh of BJP pointed out in LOKSABHA on 28th November, 2007, there is only one safe, economical and the best way to all our energy needs: Solar and Wind energy. To quote Mr. Chetan Upadhyaya of SATYA FOUNDATION, "If at all, we want to save the world from further environmental degradation, WE MUST ADOPT SOLAR & WIND POWER, NOW. Otherwise all our slogans on Environment will be slogans only." Will the people cool down and listen the truth Or continue to be slaves? PRAGYA
