RE:Women vote
by Yazed Khan on Dec 06, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
In this case a little bit silence is found in some areas in Islam. The only hadith relating to female political leadership is Shahih Bukhari 5:59:709, in which Muhammad (SAW pbuh)is recorded as saying that people with a female ruler will never be successful. (The al-Bukhari collection is generally regarded as authentic, though one Muslim feminist has questioned the reliability of the recorder of this particular hadith.) However, some classical Islamic scholars, such as al-Tabari, supported female leadership. In early Islamic history, women including Aisha, Ume Warqa, and Samra Binte Wahaib took part in political activities.Other historical Muslim female leaders include Razia Sultana, who ruled the Sultanate of Delhi from 1236 to 1239,and Shajarat ad-Durr, who ruled Egypt from 1250 to 1257. In the past several decades, many countries in which Muslims are a majority or a large minority, including Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Sri Lanka, and Turkey, have been led by women. According to Sheikh Zoubir Bouchikhi, Imam of the Islamic Society of Greater Houston%u2019s Southeast Mosque, nothing in Islam specifically allows or disallows voting by women. Until recently most Muslim nations were non-democratic, but most today allow their citizens to have some level of voting and control over their government. The disparate times at which women%u2019s suffrage was granted in Muslim-majority countries is indicative of the varied traditions and values present within the Muslim world. Azerba
RE:RE:Women vote
by Yazed Khan on Dec 06, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
Cont...Azerbaijan has had women's suffrage since 1918, but some Islamic states did not have women's suffrage until the last ten years. Today, aside from Brunei (where neither men nor women can vote)and Saudi Arabia (where only men can vote), all Muslim-majority nations allow women to vote. (Lebanon requires proof of education for women to vote.) It is to be noted that even where women's suffrage as a right is technically present, women may not as a practical matter be able to vote
Just an advice for you guys ( I know it doesnt cost me a zilch to type an advice for you all as rediff is a free service - but Really wanted to say this)
Please dont generalize things on any community .. by doing so you are driving even the Moderates towards extremism. THe Islamic fanatics drove the moderate Hindus towards Hindutwa and the Fanatic Hindus are driving the Moderate Muslims towards Islamic Jihadi Terrorism - You are defeating your own purpose
Unless you create a feeling of insecurity among your own community so that your support is intact, there is no need to type in hate messages ... If Modi is doing it, he wants Hindus to be afraid of Muslims and hence support him. If the Islamic parties are doing it, it is because they dont want fellow Muslims to be aware of whats happening around them ( andhence support only the Islamic parties, however idiotic their agendas may be) ...
But you and I are not here for votes ... we dont even know each other and what do we gain by these fights - May be you lose some calories due to non stop typing/fighting and consume some more of Rediff's space? Of course you can ding your id on Google too .. hehehehe
RE:authentic copies of quran hadith in arabic
by Lalu Prasad Yadav on Dec 04, 2007 03:53 AM Permalink
It is not for the Mullahs to change anything. All they can do is study the Quran and Hadith.
RE:mohd mad - is a 6th century tribal fellow
by cupid on Dec 03, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
the first thing u have to give up to become a muslim is - rationlity.....and become a dumb bearded goats
RE:@JGN
by JGN the Atheist on Dec 03, 2007 07:36 PM Permalink
Dear lancer, I am an atheist and do not believe in the dogmas of any religion! The so-called holy books are no more serious than Gulliver's Travels or Aesop's Fables!
RE:@JGN
by JGN the Atheist on Dec 03, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
Nice to meet a person of identical thinking. Pl write to me at JGN195@rediffmail.com Please visit the web of Actual Freedom. This is an alternative to organized religion!
RE:@JGN
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Dec 04, 2007 02:13 AM Permalink
For me, Athiesm is a religion by itself wherein instead of worshipping the Gods, you love and worship the fellow humans - a.k.a - Buddhism!
RE:@JGN
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Dec 04, 2007 02:16 AM Permalink
Previous message reported for abuse as soon as I posted it! Looks like Rediff server does somne keyword search and automaticlly reports themessages with those keywords for abuse LOLZ .. aint it funny?
I didnt type any foul words .. I said " For me athiesm is a kind of religion just like Buddhism wherein you worship Humans instead of Gods!"
Clear indications that Pak has started coming out of darkness where as India is moving towards darkness - look at the Taslima Nasreen episode, frequent terror strikes and what our secular government is doing about these.
RE:Pak Vs India
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Dec 04, 2007 01:34 AM Permalink
Well said ... Hopefully the Pakistani society gets rid of those terrorist jerks as a stable Pakistan is good for India. We can not afford to accommodate and feed Pakistani refugees if Pakistan crashes!
India, on the other hand is getting more and more intolerant .. everybody is involved in action-reaction cycle related to violence, but the same kind of thing is not seen with regards to peace ....
I meant to say Hindu Goons were quick to react to Godhra massacre by the Muslim goons, But how many Hindus positively responded to the favors done to them by the Muslim grous?
Similary Muslims were quick to react to some communal riot with serial bomb blasts, but do they ever think of returning favor to the Hindus who offered them all kinds of assistance in need?
We are pretty quick to learn bad things from others but when it comes to good, we all have excuses - Dont we?
India can chance only if we, the people change for the nation is not made up of soil or sand .. its the people that defines the nation!
India can change, only if we, the people change, for the nation is not made up of soil or sand .. its the people that defines the nation
Sorry if you feel like yawning after reading the "same old stuff" kinda message .. I was just venting out my frustration and lamenting my helplessness!
RE:who wants SATANIC VERSES book ?????
by JGN the Atheist on Dec 03, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
Dear cupid, please forward a copy to me at JGN195 @rediffmail.com Thanks in advance. Ofcourse I have read excerpts of the same.
RE:who wants SATANIC VERSES book ?????
by JGN the Atheist on Dec 03, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
Dear veera kumar,I have received your mail and the book. Thanks a lot.
RE:who wants SATANIC VERSES book ?????
by lancer on Dec 03, 2007 07:20 PM Permalink
easy cupid muzziees live in ghettos n think thats the end of the world, why should we bring them out of the hole let them be there.
RE:even women
by lancer on Dec 03, 2007 07:16 PM Permalink
why r so frustated take the stick out of ur assssss take a deep breath........ release slowlyyyyyy ull feel better.
well said.women is the biggest victim in islam.it is true no muslim mother,sister,daughter,wife like these male devils. muslim women feels they are born sinners once they come to this earth. this is the treatment they get in islam
RE:even women
by JGN the Atheist on Dec 03, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
But Allah is most merciful. He has given wives the rate opportunity of watching their husbands deflo-wer 72 virgins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:read satanic verses
by Bhardwaj Velamakanni on Dec 04, 2007 01:50 AM Permalink
People like Rushdie and MF Hussain made money on JUNK PIECES OF ART AND LITERATURE due to these controversies!
RE:read satanic verses
by JGN the Atheist on Dec 03, 2007 07:05 PM Permalink
Mr. lancer, there are many good stuff also in The Koran. Please search for category-wise verses from The Skeptics Annotated Bible/Quran
RE:read satanic verses
by JGN the Atheist on Dec 03, 2007 07:18 PM Permalink
Mr. Sami, you people can only frighten the people in India. What would you do for thousands of internet Sites? Search for X-Rated Paradise of Islam and revert.
RE:muhammed , fake gabriel the cheater's
by Sami on Dec 03, 2007 07:13 PM Permalink
In which language the torah was written? in which language the injeel is written? how many injeels are there now in this world. how many decrepancies.
RE:muhammed , fake gabriel the cheater's
by JGN the Atheist on Dec 03, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
Mr. Sami, there is no doubt that The Koran is a plagrised version of Torah. It was written in Hebrew but the inhabitants of Arabian Peninsula were aware of the story. If you have doubt, please download and read "The Necessity of Atheism" by Dr. D.M. Brooks available freely at Project Gutenberg.
RE:muhammed , fake gabriel the cheater's
by lancer on Dec 03, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
hay JGN its nice ur aware of project gutenberg,hay come don educate muzziees abot such sources, keep them in dark
RE:muhammed , fake gabriel the cheater's
by JGN the Atheist on Dec 03, 2007 07:30 PM Permalink
Mr.lancer, as you can observe from my user ID, I am atheist and do not believe in the dogmas of any religion. The religions were created by vested interests for controlling the gullible masses. The so-called holy books are no more serious than Gulliver's Travels or Aesop's Fables!
RE:muhammed , fake gabriel the cheater's
by naik on Dec 03, 2007 07:13 PM Permalink
do you know anything about islam ur speaking like a illitrate person and 1 thing make it clear if somebody say bad things abt buddhism how do u feel so dont use any bad words abt others religion.
