Mean minded, vote based politics. Since Mayavati banned film in UP, now RPI is running behind the issue to save its vote bank being bagged by Mayavati. Poor politicians. Don't see greater issues. Has anybody of them studied the actual problems in the life of the people for whom they are fighting for? No, they fight for reservations, they fight for such issues which don't have any base, but will not fight for actual upliftment of the Backward people.
i am of the opinion that the word "mochi" was used by the lyricist to represent a profession,and not a perticular caste. Even our kindergarten books refer to a cobbler as mochi, and a goldsmith as "sunar". A person who deals in "sona" is a "sunar". If you will not call a person working in a bank a banker, then what would you call him? Why create this unnecessary fuss just to gain some political mileage. Our so called politicians would be better off utilising their energies on something constructive like improving the lives of people who they say have been represented in the song.
RE:usage of the word
by Sahadevan KK on Dec 01, 2007 05:42 PM Permalink
Dalit leaders should not do the same mistake what Narendra Modi done in Gujarat as a Hitler. They do only our PM does for Sardar (bring George Bush to make whole Sardar martyr -- I fear any controversy). indian2007a.googlepages.com
The caste names can be used only by the politicians to get the reservations.If they want to avoid such usage,let them first try not create the division among peoples using the same caste names.
The country will prosper only if you remove such idiots who are called as political leaders. They are here only to create problems only for their own survival...
RE:caste names only for politicians
by Savio Jose on Dec 01, 2007 05:21 PM Permalink
i also support that this thing is picked up only for attention and nothing else
Mahatekar says "According to our Constitution,a person cannot be referred to in terms of his caste. And if you do so you are insulting him." In Kerala, Nair, Menon, Panicker, Namboothiripad etc. are different caste names.Nobody objects when they are called by these names. First Chief minister of Kerala was EMS Namboothiripad. Namboothiripad is his caste name. Similarly, the Bhattacharya in the name of WB Chief minister is his caste name. What Mahatekar says may be correct only in the case of dalits.
RE:Not true in the case of all castes
by Nirnay on Dec 01, 2007 05:21 PM Permalink
You are one person, who cannot be sensitive to people's caste. there is a division in society and there exists upper castes and lower castes. I have not seen, if people were offended when they are called by upper caste names. It happens only in case of dalits because, they want equality after many years of exploitation by the so called upper castes.If you are calling them by the caste name, it means you are telling them on their face, you are inequal than me and I am rich, arrogant, upper caste person with pride in my caste name.. that proves that.. you want to keep discriminating people. Can't understand????....travel anbroad, foreigners don't know castes.. they will call every one as brown people or dark people.. then u will know what the discrimination is...
RE:Not true in the case of all castes
by Pabbajp on Dec 01, 2007 05:34 PM Permalink
If so!!! remove/take out the caste name from the constitution which the respected caste people does not want to be with that caste. Why dont Indians try to make a single caste as Hindu or Indian??? This no one will accept because they need the caste for reservation and votes. Then why the hell you are producing the caste certificate when you do not like some one to call with that caste?? First you stop saying or producing the caste name bye yourself then expect from others.
RE:RE:Not true in the case of all castes
by SAMEER NIKALJE on Dec 01, 2007 05:17 PM Permalink
DEAR, BECAUSE DALITS HAVE FACED IT FOR LAST 2000 YEARS AND THEY ARE RIGHT TO SAY THAT.
RE:Not true in the case of all castes
by Sahadevan KK on Dec 01, 2007 05:45 PM Permalink
Left parties only have a solution to change caste system. Today castes are used as a vote bank. indian2007a.googlepages.com
RE:Not true in the case of all castes
by C S Mishra on Dec 01, 2007 05:26 PM Permalink
Who said, bhattacharya is caste name? That is only a title. Bhattacharyas could be brahmins.
RE:Not true in the case of all castes
by DALIT RAJA on Dec 01, 2007 05:25 PM Permalink
Birth-based Caste system is 3000 years old. British did not create it. In fact, after the British came it started weakening.
Without the British Rule the conditions would have been worse.
The requirment is for Free Education, Free Food, Free study materials , Facility for shelter, Facility for livelihood for alll LOWER CLASS PEOPLE. IRRESPECTIVE OF CASTE, RELIGION. 60% of the people below poverty lines are from SC or ST category. There are many from MUSLIM, Christians and HINDUS - upper category below poverty line. But people want reservation only in the name of caste or religion not in the name of Economical Class
RE:We want to bring up specific Caste or all poor people?
by Rahul on Dec 01, 2007 05:13 PM Permalink
peoples are not looking for reservation based on the religon.It is the political leaders. They want their vote bank retained at the cost of the country.They use the uneducated peoples of ST & Scs for their prosperity.
RE:We want to bring up specific Caste or all poor people?
by MOHAN PYARE on Dec 01, 2007 05:12 PM Permalink
Only caste based and religion based reservation creates good vote banks.
One thing which is hard to digest is why d protest came in only when the movie has been released and why not before as this song is being played n no. of times by all the radio stations throughout the day...Something is not right...I guess it's a publicity gimmick to sell an already thanda movie....
RE:Lyrics controversy
by GN on Dec 01, 2007 05:12 PM Permalink
Mayawati want some funds for her party, she got it from the producer of film. mayawati also successfully able to show she is with all cobblers of UP. (confirming the votes for next election)
Film producer on the other hand, got a good marketing of movie, many like me was not even knowing that this film got released.
Mochi, Darji, kumbhar, Sunar, chamar,...... If someone is identified with his profession what's wrong ... aren't we calling doctor, compounder, driver, builder, contractor, scientist, painter, poet, so on & so forth..... Consitution shud be interpreted in right spirits. Our PLEDGE in text books reads .... ALL INDIANS ARE MY BROTHERS & SISTERS .... what u make of it ? Politicians need to focus on worthy causes. They hurt more than anything else now-a-days. They rake up non-existent issues .... such energy rather shud be used to fight larger issues like corruption, terrorism, poverty , etc...... all r hurt ( not only Dalits ) by such issues. Come on Politicians ... hv a heart & mind worthy of democracy.
