Everyone thinks that biggest enemy of hinduism is Christian missionaries, and Islam.. this is the fundamental misconception of every Brahmin also. But this is completely wrong , The biggest enemy of Hinduism is the "Varnashrama Scheme", I really dont know which great person implemented this scheme but this is what will eventually kill hinduism. Christian missionaries infact need not convert anyone all Hindus will naturally convert to Christianity its just matter of time. Problem is SC / ST's feel so betrayed they just cant come to terms with the fact that they have been betrayed for 3000 years. There is just no way to stop conversion. And Dear everyone you might want to fight with me for speaking the truth, I totally agree fight with me but before you fight just verify one fact. Go to Tamil Nadu and just look at the number of people converting to Christianity especially southern districts, if you really verify this you will never fight with me. Iam also a Hindu and a OBC at it , I get confused yaar there is so much hatred in this religion. Instead of focusing our energies on refining talent or achieving something great in life every morning all hindus wake up to fight fello hindus ( castes ) I cant think of one other religion in the world which does this.
Newspapers are filled with caste fights, Caste maneuvers in politics, reservations, and split in the Hindus through politics god damn it man...
The caste/'profession' gets defined by birth and worst still since India does not have the concept of dignity of labor, certain professions got labelled as extremely lower category. People who were born into families practicing these professions were then forced to lead a life full of insults, humilition, fear, opression and torture. If they were talented in other areas (more cushy professions) then opportunities were stolen from them, unjustly, causing mental anguish, pain and emotional truma not to forget extreme poverty. Haven't you read about the story of Eklayva from Mahabharata? It's a shamelful event and Guru Drona must have been a first class racist who would have put Hitler to shame.
Now even when someone from the lower caste gets into a better profession or business (like Dr. Ambedkar did) the people from upper caste having bigoted mindset cannot tolerate this. Very strangely, instead of feeling joys that fellow citizens are getting out of poverty and misery, these bigoted individual continue to taunt, hurt and insult even innocent people. When the bigots do these evil acts, not once do they considor how wrong and unjust their acts are. Why? Becuase bigotry and racism have made them like animals, feeling no compassion, empathy and having no lack of justice. They cry about the Mughal atrocities on Hindus but show no sensitivity to their own atrocities of many more native Indians. Shame!
RE:How the caste system hurts crorers of Indians?
by Kumar on Dec 02, 2007 12:05 AM Permalink
The bigoted guys have an utter lack of empathy, compassion and sensitivity. God's chosen people? Well, this concept was invented in the middle east so you know from which country the people claiming to be 'God's chosen people' migrated from.
And in case the bigoted-ones feel they didn't migrate from the Arab world then this makes the caste system a moot point! But I think deep within they know hence the caste system refuses to go away.
RE:RE:Will you allow this?
by Aruna Dec on Dec 02, 2007 06:01 AM Permalink
kyon nahi...theer braahman ko lagaa naa..yeh sab so called social reformers muh band karke baithe hein ..hypocrites..aur tho aur MR BF ..inn braahmanon ke prathi bahuth saare aise bakwas hamesha kiye jaathe hein in every lang films ..but no one is that much humane to take care of ...but they wish for good to themselves..huh ..bullshit ..
6. bramins from krishna's period to akbar's period were poor and suffered from poverty, since they couldnt take up money yielding jobs. Thankfully british rule changed it to good extent.
7. So try to think of bigger picture. Buddhism is not perfect. The Buddhists of Sri Lanka are doing unimaginable cruelty to the Hindu OBC_Dalit Tamils over there. Myanmar is a buddhist state, there are no bramins how come they are much more backward, and poor and with far greater social problems?
8. And what about slavery, an evil worse than untouchability, that existed in every society outside India? Slavery originated in black africa, spread outside by Muslim Arabs, then adopted by Christian Europe in a big way and you know how cruel it was. That was happening despite the calls for equality of man given in christianity/islam. Why?
9. Now you should get the picture... stop blaming one caste and one religion alone for all social problems of India. See India's neighbours, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, all are Non Hindu nations, and there are no bramins and no caste system, but these countries are doing worse than India. Try to see what is good and what is bad, instead of blindly trying to build a Nazi agenda...
1. Brahmins are only 3-4% of population. They were never the rulers of the country. No system like caste system could exist just because 3-4% of population wants it.
2. Caste system was primarily developed by the Kings, merchants and rich farmers who found it advantageous to put down the labor class and they convieniently used some idiot priests to approve the system and then they used it to the fullest
3. Now history is showing that CASTE SYSTEM EXISTS OUTSIDE INDIA TOO...
JAPAN HAS AINUS, WHO ARE EQUIVALENT TO DALITS... RWANDA HAS ITS HUTUS AND TUTSIS, WHO ARE LIKE HIGH-LOW CASTES... NEW ZEALAND'S MAORIS HAD A CASTE SYSTEM TOO... CASTE SYSTEM EXISTS IN ISLAMIC PAKISTAN AND BANGLADESH TOO. THE CONDITION OF DALITS IN PAK AND BANGLADESH IS 100 TIMES WORSE THAN THAT IN INDIA... SO STOP BLAMING ONE CASTE OR ONE RELIGION FOR THIS SYSTEM.
4.Caste System , like slavery seems to have originated in Africa. It was in existence and practised in a different way by the native tribes of India, before the so called vedic aryans came. Proof is - the early vedas had no mention of dalits, untouchability etc
5. Read all Hindu texts, you will find that it was never fun being a priest (or bramin). the rules of caste system were of greatest disadvantage to bramins, and being a priest was just a honourar way to being a beggar
I appreciate Mayawathijis stance on whole issue. We as a society need to give respect to cobblers, jewellers, priests and everyone who works for sure. No need to bring caste remarks in a simple song.
actually our constitution itself has no meaning.on one hand it says all are equal and on other hand grants reservation to kill qualified people.it is abunle of garbage which gives different rights to muslims which gives kashmir special status to spread terror in india
RE:meaningless constittution
by bungbumi on Dec 01, 2007 11:11 PM Permalink
"reservation to kill qualified people"!! clarify please. What exactly R U refering to?
The fact that these so called leaders want silly reasons to rake up caste issue and provoke their followers. They are always in the look out for issues and they get it every day to give statements for and against.
Dont we and everybody make Sardar jokes, if Sardars raise up and call for Bundhs and Bans and call for withdrawal of those jokes where will we all go?