First of all , *There was the IRISH NATIONAL ARMY putting up bombs all over the place in Britain and all over europe after that even in america, because differnce in faith and also over the independent government, Well all these were/are called terrorist acts but their faith is never questioned, fine. *There is the terrorist movement from the breakaway faction in spain over their independence, committing serious violence acts and bombing called as terrorist activities but not a question over their faith, fine *There are so many faction in france , estonia, russia,lithuania, bosnia, serbia,croatia,albania,Italy,Ukraine, estonia, latvia,Sri lanka, czech republic,turkey etc.........terrrorist acts being committed without any repent or resolving till date and even in india in the northeast sector full of insecure people since independence i.e 60 years, all the terrorist activities commitied by many communities in INDIA , well even the naxal wave which has engulfed almost half the country and still spreading belong to many communities including the faith hinduism, talk about srilanka and tamils are there committing all terrorist activities, they are also hindus fine.But not a question over their faith, fine. *In all the above circumstances there is element of each and every religion being suprressed so these people are committing terrorist acts without any question over the faith ,In the same way in middle east there is the Israel taking over the land of palesine continued ....
RE:Dont bring religion into disrepute part-1
by MOHAMMED raj on Aug 31, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
RE:Dont bring religion into disrepute part-2
THIS THE WHOLE World knows, but the West supports ISRAEL and here no one is doing justice so in this region they resent by commiting these henious crime, but here their faith is questioned, not RIGHT. *In india there is kashmir problem , a regional one to that.I KNOW kashmir is our INDIAN and will be forever but that is being disputed by pakistan our enemy neighbour which is causing all the problem, But again here the faith is being questioned , not RIGHT. Why this is between nationals not religion then why all you rediff readers posting messges unknowllingly trying to malign the peaceful religon of ISLAM.These acts are committed by foreign nationals.Dont be so narrowminded. *In the world over this is a a problem because all the other faith are regional but ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY IS GLOBAL , so this being maligned which is wrong.First be right and then expect right.
*I condemn all kinds of terrorist and each and every muslim condemns this and doesnot support any violence acts. Anyone committing any violence in our country is our enemy no matter what religion he belongs. *Please stop blaming any religion but do blame your own mind with that fixation.We should not support any one committing any violence acts . All the guys commiting violence acts will go to hell because only innocent lives are lost which is a sin, There is no pardon for sinning innocents.hope these narrow minded people understand.
RE:Dont bring religion into disrepute part-1
by Rakesh Saigal on Aug 31, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
Let us try on something new. How about looking at that there is NO sin or good as far as God is concerned? All of this is man created with an intention to dominate other beings and excercise unbridled power over them. If there is sin and a day of judgment then it means that God is going around with a pad and pencil and noting down all the "evil" things that we do. After noting down all these "crimes" He then awaits our deaths so that then He can wring our necks for being naughty. How ridiculous can a person become? ALL organized religions are organized so as to dominate and take over the freedom of choice and to seek out the truth for oneself. THERE IS NO ONE WAY TO GOD. ALL roads, regardless of where they originate or end leads to God. Don't you think God is LOVE incarnate and is waiting to receive us in a loving embrace? Why do we expect him to be a school teacher with a cane waiting to punish us?
Can we PLEASE grow up in matters of religion? Haven't we done enough damage to the CHILDREN of God by killing them, maiming them, by orphaning them by every which way of torturing them in place of loving them? I state very clearly that people who are driven by organized religion are ALSO on their way to GOD as are the people who they have killed. As a human you have NO choice but to amalgamate into Godhood. I love you all, regardless of how you choose to reply to this message.
RE:What the Congress wants, should Hindu, Sikh and Christian leave India?
by pavan kumar on Aug 31, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
It all happenning because of the policies adapted by one khadiwala and a playboy
RE:What the Congress wants, should Hindu, Sikh and Christian leave India?
by MOHAMMED raj on Aug 31, 2007 03:48 PM Permalink
THIS THE WHOLE World knows, but the West supports ISRAEL and here no one is doing justice so in this region they resent by commiting these henious crime, but here their faith is questioned, not RIGHT. *In india there is kashmir problem , a regional one to that.I KNOW kashmir is our INDIAN and will be forever but that is being disputed by pakistan our enemy neighbour which is causing all the problem, But again here the faith is being questioned , not RIGHT. Why this is between nationals not religion then why all you rediff readers posting messges unknowllingly trying to malign the peaceful religon of ISLAM.These acts are committed by foreign nationals.Dont be so narrowminded. *In the world over this is a a problem because all the other faith are regional but ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY IS GLOBAL , so this being maligned which is wrong.First be right and then expect right.
*I condemn all kinds of terrorist and each and every muslim condemns this and doesnot support any violence acts. Anyone committing any violence in our country is our enemy no matter what religion he belongs. *Please stop blaming any religion but do blame your own mind with that fixation.We should not support any one committing any violence acts . All the guys commiting violence acts will go to hell because only innocent lives are lost which is a sin, There is no pardon for sinning innocents.hope these narrow minded people understand.
RE:RE:What the Congress wants, should Hindu, Sikh and Christian leave India?
by Akram on Aug 31, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
before Prophet Mohammed all arabs are nomads and were IDOL WORSHIPPERS. The prophet as the messange of god preached one god and was thrown out of mecca by his tribe for same. Later when all arabs embraced islam the idols vanished and Kaabha was turned to be the one as of today.
if Prophet is hindu then his father Abdullah name should be today a Hindu name.
David Johson come out of your mask and write in original name you are called by in Shakas
RE:RE:RE:What the Congress wants, should Hindu, Sikh and Christian leave India?
by Rationalist on Aug 31, 2007 04:22 PM Permalink
The name Arab itself is derived from Sanskrit. Its original form being "Aravasthana"(land of horses). Arava in Sanskrit means horse.That is now transformed into Arab after thousands of years. So Abdullah is just an Arabic name. May be he was an Arab who followed Hinduism also such name.Not impossible..no
RE:RE:What the Congress wants, should Hindu, Sikh and Christian leave India?
by MOHAMMED on Aug 31, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
You are interpreting the primative period of ISLAM.Everything was changed by , if you read and understand HOLY QURAN you wouldnot say anything at all. You are misrepresentating about the facts.THE HOLY IBRAHIMALLAIS SALAAM'S parents were also practicing Idol worship my brother, but IBRAHIMALLAIS SALAAM'S overturned it saying GOD CANNOT BE IN any shape and it is very very long to explain.Yes The last form of real ISLAM was brought in the form of QURAN and we should also go by hadees.The QURAN is the end. Because as DAVID is telling it is in the early period of islam where it was still at its infancy period, THE REAL FORM WAS AND IS STATED IN HOLY QURAN, HOLY QURAN is the last teaching, please dont try to misinterpret the early form of forming and understanding islam and the end part of what to follow or not to follow.THE LAST AND END PART RESULTED IN QURAN. THATS IT DEAR.IT TEACHES PEACE AND PEACE AND PEACE TILL END. NKyKY
RE:What the Congress wants, should Hindu, Sikh and Christian leave India?
by Akram on Aug 31, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
Johson,
yesterday in one of leading news paper i saw photo ( in photo there were lot of young boys photo) showing A kashmiri women crying for his missing ( may be killed). I just thought it should be kashmiri pandit as mentioned in every forum of rediff , but i was surprised to found her muslim.
how come johnson claims after thorough survey only Kashmir pundits are killed in valley.how come muslims like Ghulam Nabi azad,Omar abdullah were also targetted and many young boys were also killed.
your fellow baptist brother Bush killed more people in Afghanistan and Iraq than Osama, also recenly a mass grave found in Bosnia with 10000 skulls of young bosnian muslims bruatlly assasinated by David Johnson's religious counterparts - is the bishop's of condemned the killings.
Missionaries agenda is to expand their conversion business and results were found encouraging in AP Rural area with the blessing of the baptist CM. The business organization involved in that process has recently purcahsed a big building in Chennai for around 50 crores- good business
Vote Bank rajniti syas Divide and Rule. Politicians are using this for their benefits and vote bank. They not only divide Hundus and Muslims but also Hundu comminuty itself by giving reservations to some section
RE:secular sops from secular slobs
by Kishor Bhanushalii on Aug 31, 2007 03:36 PM Permalink
Reservation will not help them at all. On the contrary it will adversly affect their interest.
RE:secular sops from secular slobs
by simpleman on Aug 31, 2007 03:43 PM Permalink
they hav to blame them only and only them...that guy'Father behind Hyderabad blast earned only 7000 and he has 11 childern(Sick).u can see da reason behind a terrorist.if at all reservation is thr then Muslims with one child sud get da benefit.In this way we do not have to giveway any reservation to 'em.
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All the sickularists including many in rediff got together to inject yet another controll freak environment. Reservation in terms of denial was initial for jews in Germany. It is the same philosophy that is working in India. The socialists, the hindu haters and british defend the structire to attack hindus.
Speaking against muslims is useless. They are good for Jehad and their leadership good for self gratification.
Hindus could survive if they question the structure and philosophy - to start with of the marxists, the philosophy using which they slaughter millions around the world. Advertising oneself as humanism doesn't help. The other side is marxists, colonists, british inspired academicians wouldn;t allow it.
AMARTYA SEN GOT A NOBEL AND SPENT HIS LIFETIME TO DEFEND THE RACIAL CONSTRUCTION OF EMPIRE - a construction on which they have trained generations of JNU nuts. Knock down that theory, they would have needed more effort to get sepoys into board. But our media, rediff's sheela bhat got together to silence all those who criticized a racial colonial construction of India.
RE:Let Jehad be unto the SICKularist
by biz Narayan on Aug 31, 2007 03:39 PM Permalink
I have stopped watching that Pranoy Roy channel since Amartya screwed up his cherubic face to dismiss this racist construction as a hindu fundamentalist issue. Pranoy Roy is an old style oppurtinist, close to congress. Their inequality superiority in
1) Getting award from white people
2) bedding a white woman... Amartrya scores high in these points and hence they get one of the most obedient population on TV when Amartya defends colonial views.
Drink poison with faith in god... that is what is required to drive away the colonists. Posion is european/Jesuit rhetoric and slanderous interpretation on India. If the SICKularist convinces our post-gratuate to drink liquor, or put a precondition on 'atheism' - it is a historical condition - then he will recruit a sepoy ! Few will get out of these JNU power structre, take lords name to get out of it. Only then one can see through Rhetoric of Amartya types.
RE:Let Jehad be unto the SICKularist
by Jaganniwas Iyer on Aug 31, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
The likes of Amartya Sen - and the Indian English 'secular' media - are nothing but the latest recruits to the gang of 'intellectual' Sepoys - the like of whom fought FOR the white British colonialists in 1857. Only, they are carrying on their 'glorious tradition' through the pen, the microphone and the laptop, plus of course their innumerable channels and NGOs. The rewards then were jagirs,inaams and titles; today, they are Nobel Prizes, Booker Prizes, plus Phds, fellowships and scholarships and tons of dollars (grants, they're called). Todays Sepoys must be exposed and destroyed.
