RE:Dont bring the religion into disrepute part-1
by MOHAMMED raj on Aug 31, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
continuing from part --1-- THIS THE WHOLE World knows, but the West supports ISRAEL and here no one is doing justice so in this region they resent by commiting these henious crime, but here their faith is questioned, not RIGHT. *In india there is kashmir problem , a regional one to that.I KNOW kashmir is our INDIAN and will be forever but that is being disputed by pakistan our enemy neighbour which is causing all the problem, But again here the faith is being questioned , not RIGHT. Why this is between nationals not religion then why all you rediff readers posting messges unknowllingly trying to malign the peaceful religon of ISLAM.These acts are committed by foreign nationals.Dont be so narrowminded. *In the world over this is a a problem because all the other faith are regional but ISLAM AND CHRISTIANITY IS GLOBAL , so this being maligned which is wrong.First be right and then expect right.
I condemn all kinds of terrorist and each and every muslim condemns this and doesnot support any violence acts. Anyone committing any violence in our country is our enemy no matter what religion he belongs. Please stop blaming any religion but do blame your own mind with that fixation.We should not support any one committing any violence acts . All the guys commiting violence acts will go to hell because only innocent lives are lost which is a sin, There is no pardon for sinning innocents.hope these narrow minded people understand.
RE:Dont bring the religion into disrepute part-1
by Manish Kumar on Aug 31, 2007 10:05 AM Permalink
Raj The problem is that people are justifying such acts of terrorism in the name of ISLAM with more support from the clergy and other muslims unlike any other religion . Second problem is that other problems listed by you are seen as local conflicts by people of the same religion and nobody outside the region joins them in the name of their religionwhereas muslims do that . This leads people to conclude that violence is integral to the religion . If you address these two issues the attitude of others will change otherwise it will stay this way . So you decide .
As long as Politicians who apease minorities are there, population will flourish. they will produce and our govt will give all support free education, reservations, allow them for multiple marriages,..............
RE:Humble request
by khalandar pasha on Aug 31, 2007 10:20 AM Permalink
Respeecter brother, You ahve all the right in the world to comdemn/ dislike your ex-religion.but dont you think when you are condemning something you vow a moral responsibility to highlight the things you dislike or found fault with..the point of POLYGAMY which you have raised is not FARD(Compulsory) in ISLAM.its optional..and ISLAM is the only religion in which the marriage or nikah becomes void if the girl was forced in to the marriage..and what do you mean by saying "islam is meant for the lowest of the low"..excuse me you have the same set of rules for even the High class or low class people..and thats the way things should be.. Iam not trying to wrong you..neither my religion allows me that..Iam just telling you the facts..is you dislike it ignore it..You can ask your religion related questions on any islamic website and iam sure you will get proper answers.. And one more suggesstion please also try to read how Prophet MOhammed (PBUH) lead his life..how was Arab b4 Islam and after Islam....and lastly..there is no single person on the earth who has been successful in raising a single negative point about Prophet Mohammed (PBUH) and prove it correctly.. If I ahve said anything wrong please allah forgive me.. Thank you brother.. This post is not against anyone but just my take..Iam an Indian Muslim..well educated and proud to be Indian..and Iam not here to fight or abuse someone..just as others even iam making my point clear...There are only 5 things compulsory for ISlam..o
the main problem is lack of awareness regarding the problems of having many children.everybody is giving speeches at the time of elections and after the elections no one is bothering about there welfare.my suggestions are as follows :
1)survey should be made in the places where the muslim community resides and get the details of the recently married woman and the people who are not married.the a group of woman(10-15 persons) who are welleducated in that area shall be given the training by the govt regarding the problems of having excess children and the affect on the family by describing the advantages of 1 or 2 children.people should be practically aware of the small family.for this they should prepare very effective ads in which how they happy by having small family. 2)since so many woman lack thier own earnings,govt should see that every one person shall be selected from each house and trained in tailoring,preparimg of other products which can be done by sitting in their houses.the marketing shall be done by the govt through their agencies. 3)the parents shall have control over their children and check them whether they r going to studies regularly or not
RE:suggestion
by MOHAMMED raj on Aug 31, 2007 09:54 AM Permalink
Dont blame a religion in INDIA for a big family, almost many religions in india and all old people had big families , just check this simple fact before commenting brother.
RE:RE:suggestion
by vamsi krishna on Aug 31, 2007 10:01 AM Permalink
iagree withu.because of the bigfamily the breadearner is unable to get money and the family persons are keptin the employment.willu agree that it is more in muslim community.think practically.when compared to population ratio with other communities are they not more persons who r saying goodbye to studies and engaged in work?
RE:suggestion
by khalandar pasha on Aug 31, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
Guys grow up.. Ialam is not against Family Planning..but yes it is againsat Planning a family..you can decide the gap between your children and not the number of children you can have..I think for an intelligent person that is enoungh..for others..
RE:suggestion
by MOHAMMED raj on Aug 31, 2007 10:03 AM Permalink
well brother you are so illetrate that you should know catholics also doesnot abortion and also there are many communities in the world that is against abortion, till recently even many communities&religions in OUR OWN INDIA also were against abortion. Even now many muslims families go for abortion but not openly , it will take time but abortion will be practiced practically.
RE:suggestion
by Syed haneef on Aug 31, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
we cant expect any meaningful or valuable saying from you as ur name itself is mohammed, which is defined by the world as "illiterate,sick and low level thinking person".
i said no religion in their book banned family planning and i am not talking about abortion.
family planning includes precaution and we talk about precaution and not abortion !! !
Oh God (Ofcourse not allah) ! Please give some wisdom for Mohammeds quran followers ! ! !
RE:RE:suggestion
by vamsi krishna on Aug 31, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
iam saying about family planning but not abortions.i am saying prevention is better than cure.
RE:suggestion
by Pankaj Gadkari on Aug 31, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
I agree with Mohammed.Big family is not a problem only with the Muslim community. But one cannot ignore the fact that a big family and limited income is a social problem.People should use their common sense.
RE:suggestion
by Sheru raj on Aug 31, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
SYED is agressive against islam BCZ Sayed have some negative experience with him As mind set of syed i suspect he got the same from then what he will do. Syed u should participate here in right manner bcz croe are watching ur msg but u r behaving u r doing whatever do in ur bathroom u sick mind ppl
Should be our next President canditate.... OR else make him minister so that he can give good leading life to his remaining 10 children like our PM's family.... else India will blood more......
If really Sahid is a terroist so Police responsiblr for it!! Police arested Sahid suspect of murdering Reddy!! Police is the worst religion of the world,i think they used 3rd degree method!When Sahid got free he may be went to direct pakistan for revenge it!!! So who is the responsible for make Sahid to Bilal???
RE:Police make terroist!!
by Suresh b on Aug 31, 2007 09:45 AM Permalink
as per you the persons responsible for making sahid to bilal should be punished. But why innocent people doing prayer were killed. First of all it is wrong to say that he has done this thing, but if u say that, he has done because of police giving 3rd degree method, that is totally wrong. He can take revenge with police, why innocent people yaar.
RE:Police make terroist!!
by Javed Sayed on Aug 31, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
what ur talking it means if police harass u .. u will start killing innocent people .... i dont agree with u ....
RE:RE:Police make terroist!!
by Javed Sayed on Aug 31, 2007 09:41 AM Permalink
if hes terroist ... kill him ... and kill him in public in such a way that each and every terriost shd learn a lesson from that ....
RE:Police make terroist!!
by hiral joshi on Aug 31, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
You seem to know more about Shahid than his father. He says he was never arrested and tortured. People like you are hidden supporters of terrorism who try to justify such acts.
RE:RE:Police make terroist!!
by Javed Sayed on Aug 31, 2007 09:43 AM Permalink
people like him are big shame on name of mulsim ... bcz of few people whole community is blamed
RE:Police make terroist!!
by SURYAPRASAD GRANTHI on Aug 31, 2007 09:51 AM Permalink
indians are emotional and this emotional fools can support a Terror loving individuals, if you are a cop what would u do ?, let them do there investigations,
RE:Police make terroist!!
by Thomas George on Aug 31, 2007 10:11 AM Permalink
IT IS WRONG TO SAY TO KILL A PERSON EVEN TO HIS/HER CHILD .LIFE IS GIVEN BY GOD THE PERSON WHO GIVES LIFE HAS THE POWER TO TAKE LIFE NO LAW CAN TAKE LIFE .PSYCHOSOCIAL CARE CAN BE GIVEN TO THE PERSONS SO THAT THEY CAN CHANGE THEIR MIND AND LEADE A HAPPY LIFE WITH DIGNITY .
