It would be a foolish decision to put the issue for voting with voters of our country 90% of whom may not even understand it. The decisions should be best left to the professionals rather than our voters and their representatives
RE:nuke deak
by anoop alexander on Aug 30, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
i m with u on the voting matter. i wonder how such a suggestion came from MR Srinivasan. leaving decision making for voting shows inefficiency. When Pilate asked whether to release Barnabas or Jesus, they voted for Barnabas.
RE:nuke deak
by george on Aug 30, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
Its Barabbas not Barnabas. he was a member of the sicarii, a militant Jewish movement that sought to overthrow the Roman occupiers of their land by force. He was a rebel leader. He was fighting for the common mans freedom. There was no way people were going to ask the release of Jesus instead of him. Get your "History" right. This is irrelevant here though
RE:nuke deak
by george on Aug 30, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
@ batman lol.. Mark 15:7. And there was one called Barabbas, who was put in prison with some seditious men, who in the sedition had committed murder. Sedition means rebellion. "And there was one named Barabbas, in prison with those who had gone against the government and in the fight had taken life"
RE:nuke deak
by george on Aug 30, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
@ Batman Why don't you accept the facts instead of throwing abuses and allegations against others.
I am sure 98% of the people dont know or aware of nuke deal between india & us. What is hide act..what is 1-2-3 deal..How could you expect that people can vote for right one. Diplomatically we should solve that problem rather going for public opinion ( most of those are unware of deal).
RE:Voting for nuke deal!!!!!
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 10:05 AM Permalink
Now India is changed very rapidly. See the internet connection & computer associations. 98% is not a reasonable figure for ignorance any way, it is a very exaggerated figure.
RE:Voting for nuke deal!!!!!
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 10:04 AM Permalink
During MGR period, MGR win while treatment in America by sending his photos. It is very old story.
RE:Voting for nuke deal!!!!!
by Mikkey Moouse on Aug 30, 2007 10:08 AM Permalink
why this particular guy had to come to America for treatment.....are there no hospitals in the Republic of India ?
RE:Voting for nuke deal!!!!!
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 10:15 AM Permalink
Of course, not very old too. It is around 1990 to 1995 period, I guess. He went to brooklyn Hospital in USA. After that we changed a lot with the help of Americans. We have lot of hospitals are there.
naturally american hospitals are the best, no one in the right mind goes to russian or chinese hospitals!
hmmmm......so being closer with america/europe after 1990 was much more useful as the economy grew by 9% and poverty level declined to 26%, unlike the nehruvian/soviet alliance growth rate of 1.2% and poverty level of 50%.
RE:Voting for nuke deal!!!!!
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 10:25 AM Permalink
I hope that time, even russian & chinese ministers/senators/attorneys (I don't know what they call) used to go there too for treatments.
RE:Voting for nuke deal!!!!!
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 10:09 AM Permalink
They simply know that there is a deal between India & US, but the complexities & other thinks only diplomats know & for that we cannot conduct election for every issues, every day.
RE:RE:Voting for nuke deal!!!!!
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 10:10 AM Permalink
We cannot conduct election, voting, painting of walls, posters, meetings, parties. What a mess. When we do this every time, then.
Left, Right or Middle, anyone that trifles with America & its allies the European Union, Japan, Taiwan & South Korea, the largest economic bloc in the world - 40 trillion dollars/year (OECD) will soon be inhabiting mud-huts like Cuba, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, North Korea.
Russia and China is peanuts compared to the OECD.
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)
RE:Let it be very clear to all and sundry, that whether its the
by Mikkey Moouse on Aug 30, 2007 09:47 AM Permalink
good relations with America means automatic good relations with the OECD and massive trade & export oppurtunties, jobs, outsourcing, technology transfer, liberal travel regulations and countless other benefts.
entering the bad-books of America means no more trade or exports with the OECD, no jobs, no outsourcing, restricted travel, no other benefits, no American/European/Japnese/Korean products.
Only Chinese Pong-Wong cars & plastic toys and Russian Lada cars will be available.
They should have taken the initiatives taken during their to their logical conclusions and stood by congress on this important issue. At least they would have proved that on issues of national interest, BJP does not play politics. But the present party is a shadow of itself. Even politically, they would have opposed the left and embarrassed the congress.
Left does not need any introduction. With enemies like left, Pakistan and China do not need friends.
The basic problem is that the leaders (of the political parties - country has hardly any leader) have treated the issue like any other issue and dealt with it with the tokenism prevalent in all other activities. The support is symbolic - party based without understanding the content, the opposition even more so - since it is with US, it must be bad or since it is signed by congress, we must oppose.
What else do we expect from these manniquins masquerading like Gods?
RE:cont ....
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 08:39 AM Permalink
If you are an India, you feel strong. Don't bother about anything. If you slide here & there & expect others, how can we get things done.
RE:cont ....
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 08:37 AM Permalink
No need to worry about anybody. First you tell strong if you are an Indian, then we bother about others. We have lot of things done in the past: Natha La passage bus, train, plane service to paki ties with lot of countries etc. So, you cannot think anything like that. So your support that is it.
Do we believe that our typical MP whose perception about national security stops at gang wars of Balia or Saharsa is qualified to vote or even have an opinion on the deal? He will support it if his party says so and he does not lose any votes in the bargain. Similarly he will oppose it if his party says so and will sell to his Muslim voters to gain more votes.
Do we really expect these oafs to understand the 123 agreement, Hyde act and implications on long term national security and energy needs. Ask them to define energy or power and they will point to their henchmen carrying unlicenced guns!
On a similar tone, do we expect voters who keep voting for people like Raja Bhaiya to understand the nuances and be discerning? Our voters do not expect nor demand, a symbolic support on agricultural issues when it comes to seeking accountability of elected representatives.
So what does it boil down to? It is the responsibility of established and respected (!) leaders of main political parties in tandem with civil servents and corporate honchos to find the right direction.
Unfortunately, MMS is not credible enough even in Congress. Amma has not committed herself to any direction and as a result the congressman is not able to tell whether deal is good or bad unless word comes from 10 Janpath.
BJP has sqaundered an opportunity to be seen as a party for progressive India. It should have understood congress may be their enemy but commies are country's enemies. cont...
RE:Parliamentary approval is hogwash
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 08:30 AM Permalink
You cannot tell credibility of Manmohan. He is an able leader. He only got financial success from 1990.
MMS should have clarified the deal in parliament since beginning apart from just saying it is 'good'. Even now, he should solicit BJP's support after clarifying the questions put forth by public about the Hyde act.
Somehow, we never hear or read any informative statement from our 'PM' ? Wrong person for this job, phew !
RE:MMS should ask for BJP's support
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 06:50 AM Permalink
No need to tell anything to you and also you don't worry about that. We have people to concentrate on that. Spit yourselves for born like that.
Let it be very clear to all and sundry, that whether its the Left, Right or Middle, anyone that trifles with America & its allies the European Union, Japan, Taiwan & South Korea, the largest economic bloc in the world - 40 trillion dollars/year (OECD) will soon be inhabiting mud-huts like Cuba, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, North Korea.
Russia and China is peanuts compared to the OECD.
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)
good relations with America means automatic good relations with the OECD and massive trade & export oppurtunties, jobs, outsourcing, technology transfer, liberal travel regulations and countless other benefts.
entering the bad-books of America means no more trade or exports with the OECD, no jobs, no outsourcing, restricted travel, no other benefits, no American/European/Japnese/Korean products.
Only Chinese Pong-Wong cars & plastic toys and Russian Lada cars will be available.
RE:Indians, UNITE!
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 06:17 AM Permalink
This is what I am telling, I am a person who have other jobs, i often go to urinate, go to shit like any normal people. I am not a paid psychologist jehadist or anybody solely concentrate on this web site. It is not a good sign for paki to continue mingling & activities like headless chickens getting hear & there points.
RE:Indians, UNITE!
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 05:46 AM Permalink
The Pakis are doing this all this because, they didn't receive any concrete lesson of the effects of the terrorism they are following.
It is first responsibility of Indians to get majority victory of this deal in India. Then we ask others. Let all parties work in unison & work for the country's benefit and make the deal a overwhelming victory.
RE:Why is america suddenly being over friendly to india
by Mikkey Moouse on Aug 30, 2007 09:42 AM Permalink
Let it be very clear to all and sundry, that whether its the by Mikkey Moouse on Aug 30, 2007 09:35 AM | Hide replies
Left, Right or Middle, anyone that trifles with America & its allies the European Union, Japan, Taiwan & South Korea, the largest economic bloc in the world - 40 trillion dollars/year (OECD) will soon be inhabiting mud-huts like Cuba, Syria, Sudan, Somalia, North Korea.
Russia and China is peanuts compared to the OECD.
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)
RE:RE:Why is america suddenly being over friendly to india
by Mikkey Moouse on Aug 30, 2007 09:48 AM Permalink
good relations with America means automatic good relations with the OECD and massive trade & export oppurtunties, jobs, outsourcing, technology transfer, liberal travel regulations and countless other benefts.
entering the bad-books of America means no more trade or exports with the OECD, no jobs, no outsourcing, restricted travel, no other benefits, no American/European/Japnese/Korean products.
Only Chinese Pong-Wong cars & plastic toys and Russian Lada cars will be available.
RE:Why is america suddenly being over friendly to india
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 01:17 AM Permalink
These links comes with another headings already, I think.
Given the division that 123 has created, the governmnet should call for an early election.
It looks like 123 has been approved by the government despite parliamentary opposition. Only a fresh mandate through new election will bring back any legitimacy to MMS government.
RE:Sonia should call for early election
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 01:06 AM Permalink
BJP is started the deal, Congress is working on this deal. What do you want to do with that? So, it may be insult to the people, the majority voted to BJP & Congress.
RE:Sonia should call for early election
by neel sanghvi on Aug 30, 2007 05:02 AM Permalink
when BJP started the deal there was no hyde act. but congress accepted hyde act and placed india's interest in problem. Left is anyway stupid and hence supporting congress. mr. PM has no controll over india's interest and Sonia Gandhi is very busy proving congress can destroy majority in order to uplift minority and saving italian business man to save rajiv gandhi. what to do??? congress rules india for 6 decades and is the cause of dead research in india and dependancy on other contries as well as brain drain from india.
RE:Sonia should call for early election
by mr on Aug 30, 2007 09:24 AM Permalink
don't support my argument, I don't want to spoil my carrier. It is great you oppose my argument, my paki friend.
