RE:Indian muslim
by Indian Muslim on Aug 29, 2007 10:57 PM Permalink
Hadith contradicts each other and few have reasoning along with explaination.
Just by reading through the hate sites does not make you an expert on Islam. Same way if someoe reads through the documents of Ashish Chatopadhaya he does not learn Hinduism. As his site is just to speard harted and talk Evil about Hindus.
ANYONE WHO NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT INDIA SHOULD ASK ABOUT INDIA TO AN INDIAN AND NOT A PAKI....
If you can get corroupt version there are good authentic version as well.
BTW we have all the freedom to ask a Mulla any question unlike any other religion. Before you write we have many who ask the same question at different places worldwide
RE:Indian muslim ready to change your religion
by Indian Muslim on Aug 29, 2007 10:52 PM Permalink
Sahih Bukhari is a compiler of Hadith and not the one who had spent time with prophet. Have you read the compilation of first scholar of Islam Maulana Muhammad Ali.
It is like a version of Ramayana which difference per translator.
There are hidath which contradicts the claims of Bukhari and have reason for it.
If instead of putting "TAGS" if you were really interested you should have found it out.
One version of faithfreedom, doomprophet is not good enough.
RE:RE:Indian muslim ready to change your religion
by Tim on Aug 29, 2007 11:10 PM Permalink
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4396
Narrated Jabir ibn Abdullah: A thief was brought to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him). He said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah! Then he said: Cut off his hand. So his (right) hand was cut off. He was brought a second time and he said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah! Then he said: Cut off his foot. So his (left) foot was cut off. He was brought a third time and he said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah! So he said: Cut off his hand. (So his (left) hand was cut off.) He was brought a fourth time and he said: Kill him. The people said: He has committed theft, Apostle of Allah! So he said: Cut off his foot. So his (right) foot was cut off. He was brought a fifth time and he said: Kill him. So we took him away and killed him. We then dragged him and cast him into a well and threw stones over him.
It seems that Muhammad passed judgment before hearing the case. Also by cutting a thief%u2019s hand he is left with no other means to earn his bread except begging, which would be difficult since he is defamed as a thief and so hated by people. Therefore re-offending becomes his only means of livelihood.
RE:RE:Indian muslim ready to change your religion
by Tim on Aug 29, 2007 11:08 PM Permalink
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4359
Narrated Abdullah ibn Abbas: The verse "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Apostle, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite side or exile from the land...most merciful" was revealed about polytheists. If any of them repents before they are arrested, it does not prevent from inflicting on him the prescribed punishment, which he deserves.%u201D
How could a messenger of God maim and crucify people because they resist accepting him? Could such a person really be a messenger of God? Wasn%u2019t there a worthier man with moral and ethical fortitude to bear this mighty responsibility?
RE:RE:Indian muslim ready to change your religion
by Tim on Aug 29, 2007 11:03 PM Permalink
Here is one more facte about the brutality of Islam.
Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 52, Number 261:
Eight men of the tribe of 'Ukil came to the Prophet and then they found the climate of Medina unsuitable for them. So, they said, "O Allah's Apostle! Provide us with some milk." Allah's Apostle said, "I recommend that you should join the herd of camels." So they went and drank the urine and the milk of the camels (as a medicine) till they became healthy and fat. Then they killed the shepherd and drove away the camels, and they became unbelievers after they were Muslims. When the Prophet was informed by a shouter for help, he sent some men in their pursuit, and before the sun rose high, they were brought, and he had their hands and feet cut off. Then he ordered for nails, which were heated and passed over their eyes, and they were left in the Harra (i.e. rocky land in Medina). They asked for water, and nobody provided them with water till they died.
RE:RE:Indian muslim ready to change your religion
by Tim on Aug 29, 2007 11:06 PM Permalink
Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 38, Number 4348
Narrated Abdullah Ibn Abbas: A blind man had a slave-mother who used to abuse the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and disparage him. He forbade her but she did not stop. He rebuked her but she did not give up her habit. One night she began to slander the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and abuse him. So he took a dagger, placed it on her belly, pressed it, and killed her. A child who came between her legs was smeared with the blood that was there. When the morning came, the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) was informed about it. He assembled the people and said: I adjure by Allah the man who has done this action and I adjure him by my right to him that he should stand up. Jumping over the necks of the people and trembling the man stood up. He sat before the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) and said: Apostle of Allah! I am her master; she used to abuse you and disparage you. I forbade her, but she did not stop, and I rebuked her, but she did not abandon her habit. I have two sons like pearls from her, and she was my companion. Last night she began to abuse and disparage you. So I took a dagger, put it on her belly and pressed it till I killed her. Thereupon the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Oh be witness, no retaliation is payable for her blood.
RE:ISLAM IS THE WORST RELIGION IN THE WORLD!!!
by Debanjan Das on Aug 29, 2007 10:28 PM Permalink
I think neither ISLAM or no religion is Bad - it is intepreted wrongly and it is the politicians who are culprit.they will never be strong against such crimes as politics is theor career.
RE:ISLAM IS THE WORST RELIGION IN THE WORLD!!!
by rama on Aug 29, 2007 10:58 PM Permalink
Actually muslims brought upon themselves the name of terrorist.
They have their script which is full of violence, they cannot live without opressing women.
You give them palestine, you give them 50% of the world, they still won't let others to live in peace.
I don't know why even in this modern world, a muslim country cannot have one proper election and elect a democratic leader.
It is either King or a dictator that will rule an islamic nation.
They do not have the concept of peace in them. All these so called 'Islam is a tolerant religion, only few people do this terro act' is all bull and comes up to create sympathy.
RE:trouble
by mindgod on Aug 30, 2007 07:41 PM Permalink
why are u swearing everytime to change religion. A good person never ask anyone to change religion. Is it because u wish everyone else to convert to ISlam, or is it that some missionary-ghost caught you.
You seem like a good Muslim, amoung millions of terrorists. But U see, Is it we who does this killings..??
Ok what is your solution??
We should keep our mothers/wifes/daughters/sisters to have the fate of
Pakistan was Ancient India before partition. What happens there now is what going to happen to u in future. SO Read carefully.
The story of teen age hindu girls in pak in famous pak newspaper dawn http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/20051203.htm
Hindu girls dissapearing in Pak!! http://www.dawn.com/2005/11/03/local13.htm
State of hindus and christians in pak http://www.thepersecution.org/news/2007/dawn0602.html
RE:trouble
by rama on Aug 29, 2007 10:37 PM Permalink
Islamic people's first loyalty is to the religion and not to the country they live in. So if another islamic nation tells them to do something heinous to the country they live in they won't even think once. Islamics' only agenda is to make the whole world an islamic world with shariyat law. Hinduism is the most peaceful religion and all the Bal Thackerys, RSS etc are products that came up to fight against the terror of islam. If there were no muslims in India, there is no way you see an RSS or any groups like that. When the persians ruled India before the British I don't think Hindus started terrorist movement killing innocent people. Even RSS don't go and bomb markets and public places to show their anger. It is a mistake allowing muslims to stay in India after partition. I agree there are good muslims but even the best of best muslim will put his religion before the country and we don't need them either. I don't hate muslims, but India would have grown even better if we pushed all the muslims to pakistan and we stay apart. Even blood Brothers will have better relation if they live 100 miles apart than in the same house. If any muslim has an issue with what I've said, just go convince an islamic nation to appoint a Hindu at the highest office, make it happen then start talking here. No where in the world you will find a more tolerant nation than India. How many bombings by the islamic terrorits but not one bomb in revenge by Hindus in a muslim area. Think!
How do we really know he is the suspect? Does having a black bag make him one. Probably he must be in the park to watch some pretty girls from college. Poor guy must be all freaked out after seeing his look alike picture here.
Why is it that some 'terrorist' attack occurs whenever ordinary ppl join hands against the New Roman Empire aka USA?
1. 'Varanasi' happenned when there was mass protest against Bush visit to India..
2. Now 'Hyderabad' when we opposed the enslavement of our Nuclear reactors by USA
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When will you open your eyes? This globalisation is just a Capitalist paradise for the USA!
Developing Nations, UNITE!
ASIAN countries must UNITE to survive! DONT be divided by CAPITALOIMPERIALISM!
you worry about NEW EAST INDIA INC ... 826 million Indians living on Rs 2 a day is not enough for u .... 15 years of capitalism in India is not enuf .. Read wht hppnd to South America and see .. No wonder the WORKERS have RISEN again!
Get out of your $ilver tower and see ... 15 years of capitalism .. still so much poverty .. For a change, try to open your mind and read history of South America after they became capitalist. No Wonder, they have become ANTI CAPITALO-Imperialist again!
RE:ARISE&AWAKE!
by mindgod on Aug 30, 2007 07:46 PM Permalink
Ohh Sound-Ram-Roja
IS CPM state committee paying you to murmur these foolish coments. My dear, COMMI has no future. As soon as world progress with several gadgets, the COMMI-ISM will dissapear.
Govt of India, couldnt prevent globalism. Now u and ur comrade will do it..? Ur Carrot is in a fools paradise...
Ok, Once a commie, always a commie, just as Muslims. Anyway do u have any options. The exit from CPM also warrants a Death or a Leg. So keep saying Inquilab zindabad..
