Hey man, concentrate on the political side of Islam. Whether he was a pedofile or not is not going to help (say) Kashmiris to get their ancestral home back.
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by Indian Analyst on Aug 29, 2007 12:11 AM Permalink
those muslims are in pakistan. Don't blame Indians for it...
RE:RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Aug 29, 2007 12:17 AM Permalink
Its not a question of blame, or otherwise. Muslims, specially educated class was pro-British, and used them to create Pakistan, drive non-Muslims out from newly created Pakistan.
THESE ARE UNDENIABLE TRUTH. Look at history of ALigarh, its pro-British founder to realize it.
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by Indian Analyst on Aug 29, 2007 12:30 AM Permalink
Mr Mukherjee, I have many muslim friends. They are all patriotic Indians. More so than me. It's also silly to assume that Indian muslims support killing of innocent hindus. The symbols of Hindu culture like classical music etc... is preserved by muslims in India. Pak is a different story. It is based on (unreasonable) hatred of Hindus.
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Aug 29, 2007 01:08 AM Permalink
I never said EVERY MUSLIM is fanatic, terrorist......
There have been superb Muslims like Poet Nazrul Islam, APJ Kalam, Bismillah Khan.....and so many others.
But we cannot deny that a large section of Muslims have a mob mentality.
And what Muslims did to Indian suncontinent - partition, throw out all Hindu/Sikh/Buddhists, and now terrorism in India - its sick.
RE:RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by mindgod on Aug 30, 2007 09:56 PM Permalink
Shameer Dont cry.. We know that u genuinely dont want to kill us. You might be a good muslim But in current circumstances ur brothers have created, we need to try to protect our kids, if they dont survive, unlike our fore-fathers we need to make sure that ur kids too wont survive.
West will help us for that.
Probably people (spine-less hindoos) will change But not before they stop seeing the dead bodies of their kin/kith in every 3 months in the bombing spree organised with the blesseing of your mosques.
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by Shameer on Aug 29, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
Tathagata ..You like people r cancer to this greate country... Who the Damn r u decide on others mentality...
RE:RE:RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by amit jain on Aug 29, 2007 09:44 AM Permalink
Muslims in Mumbai were celebrating after the bomb blasts of 1992. deep inside there was a feeling that we have taken revenge for 91 riots. muslims in hyderabad must also be happy. hyderabad is the place where pakistan's cricket victory is celebrated more than the karachi of muhajirs.
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by mpncn mpn on Aug 29, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
Shameer, accept the truth..dont get irritated by hearing it..
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by mindgod on Aug 30, 2007 09:52 PM Permalink
why do u say that a Indian Muslim, pak-muslim and bangla-muslim are mass is different.
You might have a friend. I too have. My best friend is a muslim. But he cant prevent the impending slaughter of my kin/kith though he may sacrifice something if we ask him for protection in worst case. I understand his helplessless.
But that shouldnt make me sit idle. I need to be pragmatic. One or 2 good muslims are not enough.
If u are speaking of classical-music muslims they are different I agree. But I say, keep personal relation and pragmatism as 2 things. When acting for a common goodness of humanity against the Islamic-jihadist mentality, dont bring ur good friends in between. It will cost u too much. It had costed our fore-fathers too much. Non pragmatic one sided sympathy is not good
As i see , there cant be any difference bet ind/pak/bangla muslims as a whole, because they were created from same place with same ideaology.
Tell me, on what basis and when did they become different that sudenly pak muslims are so bad and Indian muslims are so good.
Go beyond personal attachments and see a pragmatic picture, from presesnt, from past and from hisotry..
This is my advice for ur kids to survive ISLAMIC hit.
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by hiral joshi on Aug 29, 2007 09:37 AM Permalink
Wrong analysis. Many stayed back with wicked plans in mind and did not go to pakistan. In 60 years Pakistan supplied more dirty minds in India and we accepted them as a token of friendship.
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Aug 29, 2007 12:15 AM Permalink
Congress did NOT win a single Muslim Seat in Present day geographic India in 1946 election which created Pakistan. All went to Muslim league!
Pakistan was demanded by Muslims living in present day geographic India, not those living in what is today's Pak/Bangladesh.
Most of those did NOT leave for Pakistan. Look at Uttar Pradesh Muslim Pop in 1941 and 1951, You will see hardly any change in Muslim Population.
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by aamirkhan on Aug 29, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
Idiot Mr Veera if you think muslims are using kafirs creation of internet to machines then what ABOUT KAFIRS USING MUSLIMS PETROL
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by ratnajayant gudavally on Sep 14, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
Both ways muslims are benefitted from the so called Kafirs......, the real creators of better futuristic civillization of the humanity........ But for the spiralling oil money what would their desert economy and living standards be ????????
RE:RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Aug 29, 2007 12:19 AM Permalink
Non-Muslims will start behaving the same rubble rousing ways of Muslims, if not already, to counter them.
RE:Muslims now claim they are against West! But Muslims (both Educated clas, and Mullahs) worked with West to partition India !
by ratnajayant gudavally on Sep 08, 2007 11:05 PM Permalink
Can the Muslims leave the west if they are truly against west ??????
Muslims settled in the west are well of including Jinnah's progeny, and all politicians of Muslim are hiding in the west.
Some are occupaying good positions and running great biz enterprises. Tomorrow Muslims fedup with terroristic Jihads may land in the west for more humane and better life....just as the presnt western Muslims.
RE:@bqrb
by bqrb on Aug 29, 2007 12:10 AM Permalink
moulvi buddha, u dive ito water first, clean ur body, open ur heart, then interpret qura an hadith..
Two trends are at work here: humiliation and atomization. Islam%u2019s self-identity is that it is the most perfect and complete expression of God%u2019s monotheistic message, and the Koran is God%u2019s last and most perfect word. To put it another way, young Muslims are raised on the view that Islam is God 3.0. Christianity is God 2.0. Judaism is God 1.0. And Hinduism and all others are God 0.0.
One of the factors driving Muslim males, particularly educated ones, into these acts of extreme, expressive violence is that while they were taught that they have the most perfect and complete operating system, every day they%u2019re confronted with the reality that people living by God 2.0., God 1.0 and God 0.0 are generally living much more prosperously, powerfully and democratically than those living under Islam. This creates a real dissonance and humiliation. How could this be? Who did this to us? The Crusaders! The Jews! The West! It can never be something that they failed to learn, adapt to or build. This humiliation produces a lashing out.
RE:Friedman explains why Muslims are at rage!
by Indian Analyst on Aug 29, 2007 12:35 AM Permalink
Only the weak need faith ! The brave challenge it, even if it means going against millions.
RE:Friedman explains why Muslims are at rage!
by amit jain on Aug 29, 2007 09:46 AM Permalink
Western developments in science and technology have given Islamic civilization a very deep seated inferiority complex. They have withdrawn deeper into their cocoon of faith, and have shut their eyes and ears.
RE:Friedman explains why Muslims are at rage!
by aamirkhan on Aug 29, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
you idiot amit jain what about petrol from muslim lands you beg for it if we dont supply all westerners will go to stone age
In the old days, you needed a terror infrastructure with bases in Beirut or Afghanistan to lash out in a big way. Not anymore. Now all you need is the virtual Afghanistan %u2014 the Internet and a few cellphones %u2014 to recruit, indoctrinate, plan and execute. Hence, the atomization %u2014 little terror groups sprouting everywhere. Everyone now has a starter kit.
Gen. Michael Hayden, the C.I.A. director, recently noted in a speech that during the cold war %u201Cthe enemy was easy to find, but hard to finish,%u201D because the Soviet Union was so big and powerful. %u201CIntelligence was important%u201D back then, he added, %u201Cbut it was overshadowed by the need for sheer firepower.%u201D
In today%u2019s war against terrorist groups, said General Hayden, %u201Cit%u2019s just the opposite. Our enemy is easy to finish, but hard to find. Today, we are looking for individuals or small groups planning suicide bombings, running violent Jihadist Web sites, sending foreign fighters into Iraq.%u201D
I%u2019d go one step further. The Soviet Union was easy to find and hard to kill, but once it died, it was dead forever. It had no regenerative power because it had no popular base. The terrorists of Iraq or London are hard to find, easy to kill, but very difficult to eliminate. New recruits just keep sprouting.
RE:Friedman explains why Muslims are at rage!
by on Aug 29, 2007 12:52 AM Permalink
thats not true. My forefthers lived in India. there is lot more to Partition than blaming a community. Please get full unbiased information when accusing anyone be it of any religion, caste, race etc This is what I have learnt. I first try to understand from my non muslim friends about any issues and then comment.
RE:Friedman explains why Muslims are at rage!
by bqrb on Aug 29, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
friedman is no god.. he is good only to make the world flat.. let him be there...
RE:RE:Bqrb, there is compulsion in islam
by bqrb on Aug 28, 2007 11:49 PM Permalink
olamin, why did u cut that umblical cord... evrytig has it purpose...
RE:Bqrb, there is compulsion in islam
by Indian Analyst on Aug 28, 2007 11:53 PM Permalink
bqrb, How can one see the truth ? By blind faith ? Or by questioning ? List the qualities needed to see the truth !
RE:Bqrb, there is compulsion in islam
by bqrb on Aug 28, 2007 11:48 PM Permalink
wow, good question man, why dont u live life wilth the umblical cord....
RE:Bqrb, how am I quoting out of context
by Indian Analyst on Aug 28, 2007 11:55 PM Permalink
Open your mind ???? See the light ???? What do you mean by an open mind ?
RE:Bqrb, how am I quoting out of context
by Indian Analyst on Aug 29, 2007 12:01 AM Permalink
Absolutely no intention of reading the quran or the gita or the bible. Bqrb and all believers are asking others to open their minds ? I wonder how that works...
RE:RE:Bqrb, how am I quoting out of context
by mindgod on Aug 30, 2007 10:01 PM Permalink
Indian-Analist... I say open ur mind to Nature. There is nothing man made in it. These religious fanatics are mad. You Analysis is perfect
