RE:why there was no islamic terrorism in india till 1991?????kashmir exception that also started in 1988
by hiral joshi on Aug 28, 2007 12:05 AM Permalink
There was islamic terrorism in India since 1980 onward and why to exclude Kashmir? Is it not a part of India according to you? Terrorists were active in Kashmir and Punjab (in punjab they were using Sikhs as proxies-in the name of Khalistan).In rest of the India at that time it was an incubation period. Jehadis were preparing a platform by breeding more, penetrating deep in to system and extracting ultimate milage from the political rulers.
RE:why there was no islamic terrorism in india till 1991?????kashmir exception that also started in 1988
by maniatis on Aug 28, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
you come to conclusions too fast... kashmir is part of india according to the legal and authentic deal made between india and kashmiri king at that time... that chapter is finished... terrorists were not using sikhs during khalistan movement...it was pakistani state with active help from M16 and CIA.... incubation period, breeding more are not very clear????
RE:why there was no islamic terrorism in india till 1991?????kashmir exception that also started in 1988
by hiral joshi on Aug 28, 2007 12:23 AM Permalink
Pakistani state means ISI and that is parent organisation of even Talibans and other terrorist organisations. Incubation period is a period needed by parasites to multiply themselves and later at appropriate time the disease outbreaks. Terrorists were incubating in India and now they find very favorable situations with cong govt at center and lot of local support from fundamentalist madarassa cult.
RE:RE:why there was no islamic terrorism in india till 1991?????kashmir exception that also started in 1988
by maniatis on Aug 28, 2007 12:33 AM Permalink
but i guess CIA was always controlling ISI.... pakistan is the greatest ally in global war on terrorism...after september 11 we offered our unconditional help to USA to fight terrorism together as both are victims of this phenomenon... but they like to take pakistan help...advani will Mind if you say anything about pakistan or it's great founder jinnah jurk
RE:why there was no islamic terrorism in india till 1991?????kashmir exception that also started in 1988
by hiral joshi on Aug 28, 2007 12:38 AM Permalink
I dont care about Advani. ISI was an ally to CIA till CIA started acting against fundamentalist created by ISI. As soon as CIA trained their guns to Taliban, ISI ditched them. ISI leaked informations to save Osama from US attacks. USA wanted a foot-hold in Indian subcontinent and Pak was a best option for them after 9/11 scenario for their geographical advantageous position and therefore USA is showing that they are taking Pakistan's help but actually they are slowly spreading their clutch in Pakistan to control the region later on.
RE:why there was no islamic terrorism in india till 1991?????kashmir exception that also started in 1988
by Jay Dee on Aug 28, 2007 04:33 AM Permalink
What history do you know about Kashmir buddy? I am sure that you are just trying to say something coz you know how to write...
RE:why there was no islamic terrorism in india till 1991?????kashmir exception that also started in 1988
by hiral joshi on Aug 28, 2007 10:01 AM Permalink
What history do you know? I know enough history about India to protect and nurture my national character.
RE:why there was no islamic terrorism in india till 1991?????kashmir exception that also started in 1988
by dinesh kumar on Aug 28, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
mr joshi,when did militancy start in a big way in kashmir? what do u think was the trigger? u have 5 % information and 100 % sound.
RE:why there was no islamic terrorism in india till 1991?????kashmir exception that also started in 1988
by dinesh kumar on Aug 28, 2007 04:23 PM Permalink
mr joshi,iam afraid to say that u r totally unfit to talk about this matter? where do guys like u get ur information. please try to read something somewhere instead of burying ur head in the sand. why does jammu and kashmir have a separate constitution? do u know anything about the status of the state during partition, the bjp has used educated illiterates like u to come to power.
RE:why there was no islamic terrorism in india till 1991?????kashmir exception that also started in 1988
by hiral joshi on Aug 28, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
I guess you dont have information and dont have guts to make sound. Militancy in a form of proxy war started in Kashmir during 1947-48. Later Nehru gave special status to Kashmir to appease extremists but that couldnt satisfy them for long. In late 80's again militants started active terrorism against Hindus of Valley which is continuing till date.
Are we PEOPLE not SO CARELESS that we dont even MAKE SURE that OUR OWN IS SAFE OR NOT at BUS PLACES, TRAINS, CINEMAS...???
SO JEALOUS AND EGOistic OF EACH OTHER THAT WE DONT EVEN ASK..."HEY BROTHER DID U CHECK UR PLACE...IS IT ALL SAFE???"
we all know POLICE n POLITICIANS r CORRUPT...BUT EVEN then WE TRUST THAT ALL PLACES r SAFE...that MEANS U R TRUSTING THE POLICE...which is already CORRUPT...???
SO WHO IS RESPONSIBLE...WE R RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT???
RE:CRIMINAL-MOHAMMED AND ISLAM RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRORISM!!!
by maniatis on Aug 27, 2007 11:46 PM Permalink
kafir khan last 2000 years have shown that occupiers, use religion as a tool of conversion to bring common ideas and neutralization among the occupant country. christianity has a dark history associated with massacre of millions of pagans in the name of jesus......which we call dark ages.... be it europe asia latin america nad north america all over the globe..... after 6 th century islam was used as a tool again to bring neutralization.......... do you remember ashoka sending his son to sri lanka to spread buddhism there...of course indian never never used voilence to acheive this goal but how you can forget the massacre of buddhist inside our own country by wave f shankracharya...they were pushed outside india and today far easy is coming to india as tourists to visit the bithplace of buddhism............ so all relegions at one or other times were associated with tremendous voilence ...conversion forcefully or methodologically..... islam was not at all a threat to the world till the time oil was not discovered in middle east....... islam become a threat when britishers(same guys....) made a artificial country in heart of muslim population....taking excuse of the atrocities done on jewish race by hitler.... in europe it is punishable to many years if you do any research on holocaust(scientific reserach not propoganda) whether hitler has killed 5 million jews or that number ever existed in europe or not is a question of debate that has not take place from last 6
RE:RE:RE:CRIMINAL-MOHAMMED AND ISLAM RESPONSIBLE FOR TERRORISM!!!
by maniatis on Aug 27, 2007 11:47 PM Permalink
whether hitler has killed 5 million jews or that number ever existed in europe or not is a question of debate that has not take place from last 60 years.... but islam was portrayed as a devil relegion.......they protected the sultanates of saudia who created hardcore wahhabism version of islam.... bin laden family is a close bussiness partner of dear GW BUSH from 70's..... bin laden was used against soviets....pakistan was purchase as proxy country i so called cold war.... western powers produce madrassas, extremism all over middle east... they created puppet gov..EGYPT, jordan ,emirates, oman ,qatar, kuwait and the king of all saudia..... the real al qaida is american controlled and came to give their fatwas whenever dictated by americans.... but people fighting for their liberation in iraq are not al qaida it is domestic resistance............ so the story is not so easy to understand by we indians because we are still new in the game.... and america today is betting on our behalf from the beggining in big oil and energy game......... regarding muslims in india they havn't come from outside they are our blood and our people....... who explode these bombs again is a big question if muslim extremist organizations are behind it the will beat their chests to show their bravado....but they have no chance to be populr in our country fellow muslims because majority of them are not going to be impressed by these jihadis......... love live unity in india
The PM of India has just woken up from his slumber. When updated about the incidents in Hyderabad, like a true patriot, he asked "Is Haneef safe ?". Last heard he was worrying about the family of the guys who set off the bombs in Hyd.
RE:Breaking News
by Totoman on Aug 27, 2007 09:19 PM Permalink
Now that the PM has sleepless nights again, he is thinking of getting jobs in the defence sector for the family of the guys who set the bombs in Hyd.
RE:Breaking News
by simple on Aug 27, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
No. He is a Patriotic, Energetic, Successfull and above all 'Secular' Indian doctor. But the problem is, Only the 'Secular' Media and the 'Secular' Politicians think so. People like me and others (who are 'Communal') dont think so.
RE:Breaking News
by Really on Aug 27, 2007 10:14 PM Permalink
Ok so he is a terrorist !! I wonder why Australian govt does not think so? I wonder why his visa has been restored?
RE:Breaking News
by Really on Aug 27, 2007 10:27 PM Permalink
Oh I thought you guys here are more knowledgeable than anyone else in the world !! :D So I thought you might know better :)
RE:shameless comminssioner!!
by swamy on Aug 28, 2007 12:07 AM Permalink
The police have been given instructions that no Muslim shall be arrested unless he comes up and proves that he committed the crime. Muslims r more than happy and so is MM
RE:shameless comminssioner!!
by Jay Dee on Aug 28, 2007 04:28 AM Permalink
Well, I guess you will be happy if Police go to corners of city and arrest 100s of youths on the basis of suspision and book a double figure out of them in TADA/POTA and that would satisfy your zeal?
Like you know your job, Police knows their job! Let them do it and I have all the faith in Indian Administration that they will catch the culprit real soon. Why do I feel that we are being hypocritic by not blmaing police for not arresting any one for Makkah Masjid blast?
"terrorism has only one religion.. n come to charminar area and find bin laden and mushrraf photos inside their bed rooms. its not a big task to understand this in hyderabad. now stop preaching that terrorism has no religion. yesterday theres's a program on cnn-ibn about how bal thakery instigated voilence during mumbai riots. i wont say he is God, but why there's no effort by cnn to go into these places in old city of hyderabad and present a program 300 minutes special? many indians are more responsible for this sad state of affairs than pakis are bangladeshi's. terrorism is not in pak but here in old city. come and check it out"
RE:terrorism has only one religion
by moderator on Aug 28, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
IF you look closely into the matters happened over past 15 years, we can see BJP as the root cause of the terrorism.
From the day they started using hinduvata as their politcal tool , problems between communities started brewing up. As the BJP contuinued their struggle for Ram Mandir , minorities especially muslims started feeling alienated and insecure in their own country.
When BJP started recruiting people thru their saffron allies like vhp and rss they ignored the fact that they were actually inviting big enemies to hindus and to the country as well.
Followers of BJP and saffron parties were injected with hatred towards minorities for thier political motivation which ended up only in mass killings and riots throughout the country.
This fearful scenario insecurity and hateredness created by BJP helped indian muslims to tend towards extremist help from pak and bangladesh. Before BJP's political intervension using hinduvata we had extremist threat only in our borders. Now we have the threat spread all over the nation.
Why do u think minorities vote for congress as a whole? because they feel insecure in BJP. Its clear from this that their state of mind as fearful and insecure which is not good for a country's growth.
Who is responsible for this situation? Does anyone think Lord Ram will be happpy to see mandir built their after so much of bloodshed? Does anyone thinnk that India can go forward ignoring (or making enemies) the mi
RE:terrorism has only one religion
by Totoman on Aug 27, 2007 07:58 PM Permalink
Well said. If only we had done this 60 years back we would not have had to face this situation today.
RE:terrorism has only one religion
by eemani kiran on Aug 27, 2007 07:26 PM Permalink
"thats a generalistic view to say what it means.. be it bed room or anywhere else. get issues to ur head first, then post here"
we can take action unless they commit an offense???? :O, what kinda attitude is that? u want them to kill scores of people so that then maybe u can arrest them and release them on bail later. Here even after blasts the police ahs not been able to take any action, talk of lax policies!!!!
