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When Democracy Failed: The Warnings of History
by Mikkey Moouse on Aug 26, 2007 08:35 PM  Permalink 

be careful of following Hitlerian Democracy - Hitler was the pioneer of using communal divisions & votebank politics to win democratic elections.

When Democracy Failed: The Warnings of History

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0316-08.htm

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the only true secular party in India is the BJP ....
by Sanjay Reddy on Aug 26, 2007 08:02 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

YSR cannot hide behind the masquerade of global terror. It is exactly 100 days since the Mecca Masjid blast. His government should have been extra active and more on the alert. He has failed miserably and does not deserve to give these stupid and long winded explanations. Will he give an explanation why he let go off the MIM e'nuchs [we all know how congress will grovel for muslim votes]. So the ultimate e'nuchs are YSR and his party colleagues both at the state and center.

One or two more blasts like these and there will be no more credibility for these UPA idiots to follow the path of secularism. Reactionary methods by the majority community will be totally justified as they will also serve to be the only deterrent from these perpetrators.

I have never been a political person but i am now firmly veering to the view that the only true secular party is the BJP.


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RE:the only true secular party in India is the BJP ....
by satya s on Aug 26, 2007 08:39 PM  Permalink
you bjp supporters are the most deluded morons on earth.

BJP,rss and co are useful only for killing defencless civilians (like modi did gujarat)...what have they done against terorists?

jaswant and co handed three hard core ones on a plate in humiliating surrender at kandahar

no excuse for using a targedy to spew stupid ideas.

hindutva and secualirsm? in a parallel universe.yes

communal hatred and prejudice does not make you a effective anti terorist.idiots.



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Guys its a sigh of importance
by Raja dhawan on Aug 26, 2007 07:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Now, terrorists are eying southern cities like hydrabad and bangalore. It means south is gaining worth and slowly coming at the level of Delhi, chandighar and other highly developed cities of north. Now we are getting united as one nation. Southies are now looked at with some respect by northies. This is southie's "dreams come true". However, I strongly condemn such attacks on humanity. There were lot of highly intellectual IT engineers who died in hydrabad. Such terrorists shuld be burnt alive for these gruesome acts of terrorism and hate.

Howver, this only helps us Indians to grow stronger than ever and now, southies are also getting equally important and worthy. Together we shall uproot terrorism and restore peace.

Jai hind

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RE:RE:Guys its a sigh of importance
by Rakesh Saxena on Aug 26, 2007 08:06 PM  Permalink
I feel kinda sorry for south Indians, they are paying for the past deeds of us northies. Southies really are peaceful, innocent people.
We should be ashamed of ourselves. We have pulled southies into this mess. Poor southies, I feel really sorry for them. This really enrages me to see the blood covered pictures of the blast victims. I want to kill all the terrorists in the most barbaric brutal way in front of public. We must rip their organs one by one and let the puclic kick them very hard in their balls. Then we will gouge out their eyes and then we will push a large pointed pin through their ears slowly....We will make a video of this to show all other terrorists and tell them what we will do to them if they are ever caught in an act of terrorism. We wont kill then so easily but we will inhumanely torture them for months before killing them. It will shudder their spine whenever they think of commitng a terror act.

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Enough
by Aneez on Aug 26, 2007 07:40 PM  Permalink 

I say we have had enough. Endless sufferring at the hands of these masked animals. Lots of lives lost. What do they want? What are they trying to prove with this? Their superiority? Whatever they do, we should not give up. They are just trying to divide us. Cause hatred amongst us, so that we will start killing eachother. We have to catch them at the root. These blood thirsty criminals must be caught and hung at all costs.

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/19_timer_bombs_found_in_Hyderabad/articleshow/2312252.cms
by Indian on Aug 26, 2007 07:22 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/19_timer_bombs_found_in_Hyderabad/articleshow/2312252.cms

Seems so much ignorence by Ap Govt inteligence

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RE:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/19_timer_bombs_found_in_Hyderabad/articleshow/2312252.cms
by Indian on Aug 26, 2007 07:23 PM  Permalink
Seems so much ignorence by Ap Govt inteligence

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name of jehad doing a Business
by Arshad Hussain Sheikh on Aug 26, 2007 07:06 PM  Permalink 

In our India just for amount they can reday do anything... for them total numbers was killed..even their family kills also never mind..Instead of robbering now new skill started...just blasting..this my view

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Weapons....!!!
by Shankar on Aug 26, 2007 06:34 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Two weeks back, Al-Qaeda has already threatened and declared Jihad against India and they got succeeded. This news is very shameful to our security personals that they failed to crack their plan.

What is the use of testing missiles every six months. When will they use those weapons..? I suggest to our Indian Government that this is the right time to use all the weapons and destroy those networks who are creating terror in peacful country.


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RE:Weapons....!!!
by Robin Hood on Aug 26, 2007 06:46 PM  Permalink
Military might, nuclear power, missile power are all useless in this kind of threats. Who are you going to target the misslies at? And what do you think will be the reaction?

The only weapons that will work are genuine unity and harmony, equality and justice for all. This will strike at the root cause of the problem and take the wind out of the sails of terrorist organizations.

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Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by Majid Saleem on Aug 26, 2007 06:18 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Look all you guys Hindus/Muslims/Christians etc etc. Lets get some facts right.

1) its easy to sit in your armchair and talk about redrawing broders and ethnic cleansing
2) muslims around now didnt create pakistan or bangladesh, very few were alive at partition and ones who wanted to go there have gone
3) the fact that muslims still live in india is a testament to the fact that muslims like living in india and hindus are tolerant people

BUT BIGGEST FACT

4) End of the day 120million muslims are not going anywhere, they cant be kicked out forcefully they wont all leave so that means that Hindus and Muslims will HAVE to co-exist... me personally i want a quiet life, I want to go to work, bring up my kids, send them to good schools, get them educated, have a safe and happy life with my family be a good person and when I die I want God to be happy with me.... I think that is a universal thing whatever religion you are.

I think all sane human being would say thats what they would like... why argue and bickr and foster more hatred? do u want a live a life full of hate, many muslims have followed this life, The Bin Ladens and Zarqawis of this world... doesnt help anyone, doesnt help muslims doesnt defeat non-muslims is not productive in any way. Does anybody else want to have a hate-filled life? Hindu or Muslim? then you are ruining your own life... you'll never have piece of mind, you'll have higher stress levels and one day you'll have a heart attack becasue of

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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by Aradhana on Aug 26, 2007 08:30 PM  Permalink
Hi Majid, Agree with you completely. india offers in its constitution your fundamental rights and all that you mention that you need for yourself is yours already.

Now what can you do for India? Check your mohalla, your mosque for anyone who is talking ill or India, motivating your brothers to act against India. Report about them.

This is what is going to ensure that we will not end up like Iraq.

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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by Udaya Bhanu on Aug 26, 2007 08:20 PM  Permalink
Hello mr. majid saleem,
please try to adress all your facts to your own people first and tell them to love their mother country .All hindus in this world love peace since that religion never tells any of its followers to fight or kill each other.They love peace and they love their mother country above their religion.Have you ever seen how women are treated in a country where these sharia or else muslim rules are followed?....Do you people in this country also want a same thing here..???



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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by V H on Aug 26, 2007 08:26 PM  Permalink
Majid Saleem - I wish you said, "Since I want my country to be safe modern and progressive, I will make sure I will provide information about jihadi activities in my Mosque"

But, you choose to show your defiance by saying you are here to say. If you not you within your muslim, who is better able to counter these kind of voilence and hatred from jihadi elements. What is the end game? more and more bomb blast and inaction from everyone?

All I can say is this attitude stinks and you will be resposible for the worst to be come just like your ilk kept quite when pakistan and bangladesh was formed. Dont let minority jihadis in your community control you and decide for you.

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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by Robin Hood on Aug 26, 2007 06:35 PM  Permalink
This is the only message which has some sense in it in the flood of hate-filled messages here! As you have rightly pointed out, Hindus and Muslims have no choice BUT TO CO-EXIST in this country. There are 180 million plus Muslims (not just 120 mn - that number is being stated for the past 20 years as I have noticed!) and that number is growing. Both Hindus and Muslims eventually want peace, justice, harmony and progress. Nobody wants this country to become another Iraq where death looms on everyone every second of the day.

The right decision is to remain united and fight any form of injustice unitedly without attaching religious and sectarian tones. And most of all, I see lot of messages here insulting Islam and the Holy Prophet! By doing so, the writers of these hate messages are only strengthening the hands of the terrorist organizations.

Genuine unity is what will help us win. Not military force (The greatest militaries have failed in the face of a determined enemy driven by idealogy as we have seen in the past and continue to see in the present!)

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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by gul khan on Aug 26, 2007 08:41 PM  Permalink
MERE DESH PREMEOH AAPAS MEIN PREM KARO
YES MAJID YOU ARE RIGHT GOLD BLESS YOU I AM IMPRESS YOUR WORDS AND ALL OF MINDED PERSONS HUM HINDUSTANI WATAN KE LIYE JAAN DIYE AUR WATAN KE LIYE JAAN DENGE INSHA ALLAH.

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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by Manu on Aug 26, 2007 09:30 PM  Permalink
Hi Majid and Gul Bhai,
I appreciate you feelings and agree with your observations that the muslim who are in India are not responsible for creation of Pakistan and you people have the same right on this land as the other religion people have.
There is an urgent need to change in attitudes of some people of my hindu religion. But with this acknowledgement I would like to add, there is an urgent need to change the attitudes of most of the muslim people also. You should come forward against the fanatics and Jehadi. You have observed that the legal fight for gujrat riots victims were fought by mostly hindus people. Recently Taslima was attacked by your MLAs in hyderabad. In a secular democratis country this should not happen. There is a lot of griviences about Islamic beliefs among people of other religion.Why are we addressed as Kafir in you religion. Isn't Islam says to try to convert people of other religion into Islam or finish them. If it is true, please try to bring some changes in your religious belief. There is also a need to change in religius believes in my hindu religion as well and i will try for that. The other important thin is your motto should be the benefits of INdia first. When Jorge bush came thousand of Muslim gathered in Delhi to oppose him. Every where you people were seen burning his posters. This created a very bad image of Indian muslim image among fellow countryman of other religions. You should realise that the benefits of India is now in joining hand

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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by Deepak MA on Aug 26, 2007 07:30 PM  Permalink
You showed your hatred by "addressing this mail to the Hindutvadis"!!

Are you trying to tell that bomb blasts shall continue in this country relentlessly, and the others should live peacefully till their time also comes???

If your intent was right, you should have addressed this to your own people!

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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by venkat on Aug 26, 2007 07:38 PM  Permalink
A few comments:
Muslims are getting more and more aggressive each day in India. They are not interested in Vande maataram, in Kashmir Pandits well being, in civil law (but want sharia laws). They are more interested in Palestinian issue, danish cartoons etc. In other words Muslims of India identify with Global muslim ummah first and then only they are Indians (if at all).

in Kerala, Assam, West Bengal, they are edging out the Hindus. Wahabbism the extreme intolerant for of Islam as practised Saudi Arabia is also agrowing phenomenon.

In sum, the present form of Islam is a direct threat to India and Hindus. We all will very soon end up like the Kashmiri Pandits -- kicked out of their lands and languishing in refugee camps.

There virtually no country in the Islamic world which follows secularism, pluralism, and treats its minorities well. Let us have no illusions about Indian muslims as well.

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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by Krommy on Aug 26, 2007 07:52 PM  Permalink
What are you trying to say, illusion of what? what is wahhabism.



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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by pradip kumar pathy on Aug 26, 2007 08:25 PM  Permalink
Well Said Majeed!!! I do have lot of Muslim friends, and have never felt any difference too...Common man wants to be in peace n harmony The only difference lies in the Divide and Rule policy of these idiots. Based on Caste, Religion they can divide the whole country for votebank politics. Need of the hours is a true secular party whose policies is redirected towards reconciliatory and proactive measures and unite the whole country rather than divide. Where there is no place for bullshit leaders like Arjun Singh, Narendra Modi.

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RE:Addressed to to the Hindutvadis
by Sriram R on Aug 26, 2007 06:53 PM  Permalink
Heartening to read such a no nonsense mail.

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arrest land mafia group@pune
by victim on Aug 26, 2007 06:16 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Al-rokade land mafia group heaeded by headless backward class leader Vasant Rokade and his deputy Ramesh Bhnage@Bhnagipeth,anandnagar pune are seasoned criminals.
Thye are land mafia and known to hav ecaptured a large chunk of land in and around pune.they want to slel land around dashera paeriod but land price hasn't gone up what they hoped for by cpmpetition from hydrebad and bangalore.Dont be surprised if you see more atacks in bangalore or even mumbai as they want to cash in profit from paick land buying in pune by scaring away investor from hyderabad.RDX was imported by one of its sleeper in air india itself from cargo route!!

Get those criminals out of pune..
jai bharat...



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RE:arrest land mafia group@pune
by My view on Aug 26, 2007 08:12 PM  Permalink
Why do u want to pull the caste issue? Just stop with the line "Headless leader". This is where we go wrong.

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