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Terrorists with Bombs and Pens
by Dhurandhar Bhatwadekar on Aug 26, 2007 08:42 AM  Permalink 

It wont be long before Syed Firdaus Ashraf and Sheela Bhatt, will start filing stories sympathizing, justifying & glorifying those involved in the blasts. They will try and link it to some incidents, and justify it. They will keep harping about same tune " Implementation of SriKrishna commisison". Majid Menon, Maneshinde, Farhana Shah & Jethmalanis of the world would book Cars, houses since they have big opportunity to make more money now, Opportunity for rediff to free vultures like Syed Firdaus Ashraf and Sheela Bhatt, who will stoop to any lows to justufy these terrorists. To my mind, not only the terrorists involved in blasts should be dealt with, but even these infidels who harbour them

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Funny
by Truth BeTold on Aug 26, 2007 08:23 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Its always after the incidence that the Indian police finds a live bomb that they claim to defuse. Why couldnt they defuse the bombs that went off and killed so many people?

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RE:Funny
by on Aug 26, 2007 09:40 AM  Permalink
I agree & my blood is boiling. I do not believe our politicians & police fully. How did they get this information only after the blasts happened in Koti & Lumbini Park? They need to release the information to public basing on what information they were able to trace these live bombs & defuse. Sometimes I feel like our politicians with the help of police does these heinous crimes and put the blame on others for their own gain. Rediff - are you listening. You the media has to question the politicians/police about concrete information basing on which they were able to defuse live bombs in Dilsukhnagar and why do they believe that Harkat-ul-Jehadi Islami militant outfit is behind these blasts. We, the people of India, need concrete answers - NOT who believe what without any evidence. All such evidences with respect to any terrorist act should be publicly displayed on internet. This will take away any kind of misunderstandings prevailing in the minds of public regarding religion/politics/police/terrorist groups etc. Once we get the evidence, then ONLY we can attack the base reason for terrorism in our country. We need to eradicate all such elements from their root. For this, if govt needs money, we the Indians will pump all our hard earned money for this great cause to save our nation.

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Identification cards
by maash Peringannur on Aug 26, 2007 08:08 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

India should seriously think about implementing mandatory ID cards for citizens. Every Indian should carry the card as first identification with their thump impression in it. Now it is extremely hard to track people who visiting India and locate them. This is a wake up call! It is expensive....but this has to be in place. we are spending so much of money for defence....include this as part of the military expenditure!

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RE:Identification cards
by on Aug 26, 2007 09:51 AM  Permalink
I fully agree with you. Respectful TN.Sheshan initiated this idea while he was Election Commissioner. He suggested and coerced govt to issue election cards for every one over 18 yrs of age that can also be used to ID a person. It is something similar to Social Security Number issued in US to ID & maintain history of a person. Unfortunately, govt failed so badly to implement Mr.Sheshan's advice. Politicians never wanted this to happen. So I am not expecting this to happen in the near future atleast.

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RE:Identification cards
by Robin Debnath on Aug 26, 2007 09:59 AM  Permalink
This time we can also keep track of the bad guys with intelligent cards. I know the dirty politics wont let it pass! and you know the reason why :)

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RE:Identification cards
by Venkatesan Subramanian on Aug 26, 2007 10:20 AM  Permalink
This is would be a good move to check inflitration. It is easy to blame police and politician. it is our timid nature this useless politicians are taking advantage of. it boils in my heart when ever a bombing happens ....bjp or any opposition party start campaigning for their party and its deeds....Please this is not the time for political mileage. This is what the terrorist groups have found in us. we fight when we are bleeding and blame each other. Why cant we unite during this grief, show to the world that next time dare touch our country, and our citizens be it hindu, muslim, sikh, or christian we wont spare them any more. Lets be indians first then religious then.Secondly it is shame that media stoops so low to show anything. media has to be sensible enough is what it is broadcasting. Some videos, messages they telecast are just enough to spoil our cultural harmony. Yesterday it was shame of all the major media tv's to show the families already under huge loss of their kin and interview them.

Media pls mature yourself. I kindly request all indians can we together pray for the people who became a victim to this cruel act. Can we come together and not be a pawn in the hands of this characterless politicians. Its time we stood up and be counted. If it has to start it has to be us.

Jai Hind

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RE:Identification cards
by Raghavendra Gowda on Aug 26, 2007 10:57 AM  Permalink
no no no we should not implement the system of ID's if you do so what will happen to our ISI brothers from Pakisthan, Arabian Countries and Bangladesh. And if that is the case more than crore people have to leave India back to their contries

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RE:Identification cards
by on Aug 26, 2007 09:13 AM  Permalink
I agree with this. There can be magnetic cards with the citizens - readable by some mobile device. This mobile device may have features like reading the photo of the person from the card itself for verification and other related information! And the cops should be having this mobile device when patrolling. C'mon guys what say!

If some official is reading this, may be our company (Impetus Infotech) can help with proof-of-concept!

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RE:Identification cards
by ISHWAR CHANDRA on Aug 26, 2007 09:46 AM  Permalink
Agreed, money is not more important that security of citizens.

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RE:Identification cards
by Ram kumar on Aug 26, 2007 09:52 AM  Permalink
A simple question - Has any INDIAN (Hindu) did any bad stuff and kill people in any other country? Who is responsible for all the blasts, killing of innocent people all over the world. And can all these planned attacks in Mumbai, Hyderabad occur without the help of local people who support Pakistan while eating food from INDIA and enjoying all the other rights equally as other INDIANS (Hindus).

Why cannot INDIAN government take some bold steps like ISRAEL. Why not we spend our resources and time on eradicating the scum from the world.

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RE:RE:Identification cards
by Robin Debnath on Aug 26, 2007 10:09 AM  Permalink
C'mon yar, just because of handful of bad guys(tho the handful of them do enough damage, and we also know the severity) we cant take ISRAELI steps! Why should we? and why cant we take measures that make us more safe. What happened was just a face of evil! there can be others ways too!

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RE:RE:RE:Identification cards
by Raghavendra Gowda on Aug 26, 2007 10:58 AM  Permalink
Boss this is not Gulli clash its Pan Islamic Terrorism

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RE:Disenfranchise all Muslims in India immediately .......
by ISHWAR CHANDRA on Aug 26, 2007 08:38 AM  Permalink
As long as there are PMs who LOSE SLEEP for terrorists arrested , this will continue.

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RE:RE:Disenfranchise all Muslims in India immediately .......
by desi abroad on Aug 26, 2007 08:04 AM  Permalink
Well lets not blame congress or bjp or td for the blasts, if you point out this at the muslisms. the last blast occurred was at Mecca Masjid and the yesterdays blast was at public places where Hindu's, Muslim's and other communities frolic. Lets not get into communial bias now .......Intelligence of the state and central had failed .....

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RE:RE:RE:Disenfranchise all Muslims in India immediately .......
by my message on Aug 26, 2007 08:19 AM  Permalink
By the argument of Desi abroad, there should not be any attack in Islamic Countries. But that is happening. Therefore the arguments that "the last blast was at Mecca Masjid" does not mean that no muslim was involved.

Yes, Intelligence and state has failed. Their failure is in trying to look at everything in the Minority perspective!!!!

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RE:Disenfranchise all Muslims in India immediately .......
by my message on Aug 26, 2007 08:15 AM  Permalink
This is exactly what Mr. Sanjay Reddy is trying to tell you. The Govt wants to close its eyes to the involvement of the Minorities and just keep blamming the Intelligence.

A terrorist is a terrorist. But, this Govt wants to see them as Minorities and go slow on the investigations and prosecutions.

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RE:Disenfranchise all Muslims in India immediately .......
by amit choudhary on Aug 26, 2007 08:07 AM  Permalink
wait for some time and you will see who all are arrested. All of them would be muslims. Not even one single hindu.

Now you know whom to blame and why

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RE:Solution: Military rule
by desai on Aug 26, 2007 08:58 AM  Permalink
and who will deal with hindu based terrorism from BJP, RSS, Bajrang dal, Shiv Sena and other killer groups you moron.

Communalism and terrorism are same forms of evil so stop pursuing that path you moron.

If its military rule then all the hindutva terror groupd will be in jail and so would be pathetic morons like you.

Terrorism is a global threat and not a local one.

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Coward Terrorist
by Ganesh Venkataraman on Aug 26, 2007 07:38 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

There is no reason for the terrorist targetting the poor public rather than politicians, who decides the fate of a nation. Because of wrong policies of these "so called Leaders", this type of ghory acts are committed. I would say terrorists are not behind these cowardice acts but politicians , though not directly.

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RE:Coward Terrorist
by khaleel rahman on Aug 26, 2007 01:30 PM  Permalink

HATS OFF TO VENKAT..

EVERY INDIAN SHOULD BE LIKE Mr. VENKAT.

THEN .NO..PROBLEM

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We bloggers bear a fraction of the blame.....
by Mak C on Aug 26, 2007 07:34 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

To the muslims I request, condemn this ghastly act wholeheartedly, let these Jehadi criminals know that they stand isolated because they are harming every muslim who is struggling for social acceptance in this politically created madness. You don't need to defend Islam at the instigation of a few communally mischievious Hindus. Its a waste of effort. Also don't retaliate with ridiculing Hinduism, it hurts Hindus who are not fanatics and not in this political game. I likewise request every Hindu to stop expecting every muslim to apologise for the acts of communally poisoned Jehadi groups. A healthy democracy is recognised by the way majority treats minority, rich treats the poor, strong treats the weak. Lets not model ourselves communally like Pakistan and then have the cheek to claim democratic status. Don't irresponsibly criticize Islam just because a bunch of Jehadi criminals pretend they are protecting it. Also stop this irresponsible talk of Hitler style ethnic cleansing. First and foremost the lower castes victimised through history know that after muslims they will face the music alone and will not bite the political bait. So stop having these illusions. Also stop calling all muslims terrorists, we don't realise the magnitude of the problem if they all were. Innocents continue to lose lives thru blasts and we bear a portion of this blame. We foolishly oblige the Jehadis in their game plan of increasing their numbers by getting the reluctant ones isolated.

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RE:We bloggers bear a fraction of the blame.....
by my message on Aug 26, 2007 08:25 AM  Permalink
You remark "a few mischievos Hindus". Dont blame even these few. These few came about only because of the "Secular" politicians trying to be pro minority.

This is also not a forum for you to start the issue of "Lower Castes"

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RE:We bloggers bear a fraction of the blame.....
by Venkatesan Subramanian on Aug 26, 2007 10:28 AM  Permalink
Please for god sakes dont make this forum a communal forum. As i condemn the jehandis and their acts ....i also strongly condemn the way many of our hindu fanatics are acting. Why cant we all understand this that be it a muslim group or an hindu group.....its the comman man who suffers. please let us all leave in peace

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RE:We bloggers bear a fraction of the blame.....
by Nizam Mogal on Aug 26, 2007 08:19 AM  Permalink
Mr.Sanjay!! Before you call any religion's head as illegitimate think twice. If I call your Venkateshwara the same way will you keep quite!!
Control your emotions..First let the police and govt carry out their investigations to find out who is behind these incidents. (If they find, it is hindus who did are behind these incidents. Do not worry..your community%u2019s political leaders will make sure to put the blame on muslim organizations even though they are not linked..)

Also, will Advani or Modi or any BJP or RSS member or any Hindu condemn Mumbai, Gujarat riots where numbers of innocent Muslims are killed!!


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RE:We bloggers bear a fraction of the blame.....
by L Ganesh on Aug 26, 2007 07:53 AM  Permalink
Well said buddy, i totally second ur thought. I have many muslim friends and they will continue to be one...just bcos of few who misinterpret and think to save islam, are doing this act of a coward. Let us all (Hindu, Muslim, Christians, all religeons unite and stay together)....

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RE:RE:We bloggers bear a fraction of the blame.....
by parthasarathy sarathy on Aug 26, 2007 08:57 AM  Permalink
Mr.Ganesh,

Your defence of Mr.Nizam is good and he himself has been reasonable and decent and expressed good views. However, neither of you can deny that Islam is basically a religion that believes in militancy and elimination of all those who do not follow them. Aurangazeb is but one small example of this trait. Ayatollah Komenis, Musharafs and Saddam Husseins in the modern world are no less militant when it comes to their views and actions on non - Muslim populations.

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