See how the bodies of those dead were brought to hospitals, we feel ashamed. There was nothing covered on the dead nor were they brought in a ambulance. And most shockin is that they were left laying on the floor of the hospital. And all these media channels are trying to make money by showing the blood! Cant we even give some solace to the dead by atleast treatin them with respect. No metal detectors at Lumbini park. The congress govt will spend for Rajiv Gandhi statue but not for our security. And all the prejudice, nonsense posted on our this board!
RE:How about a fatwa?
by Aazad Indian on Aug 26, 2007 01:36 AM Permalink
No , Muslims are not all that bad....however there are a lot of uneducated muslims who are easy prey for terrorists....also there is an islamic theology world over which allthough supports jehad but does nothing for poor muslims or even helps them...their only motive to spread islam which sounds music to local muslims ears.......i believe that education is the key that will help us.........I criticise the blasts in full voice and being a muslim I also declare that I am an Indian first and Indian last....
RE:How about a fatwa?
by on Aug 26, 2007 02:23 AM Permalink
uneducated muslim? Are you dumb? Was WTC terrorist an uneducated? Was glasgo terrorist an uneducated?
Is laden - an uneducated? Is zawari - an uneducated? Most of the terrorists are fully educated and well earning people. They do terrorist for their god. Its all related to religion and has nothing to do with education. Instead education gives them more resource to plot terror activities.
RE:Reality :
by mindgod on Aug 27, 2007 11:21 AM Permalink
Yes surya,
USA/Israel way is the WAY. I had said it many a times.
But not just abroad, but also Inside India.
USA/Israel hits anything they think as a security threat to them, both inside and outside country.
All mosques in USA/UK are in total surveylence. All phones are tapped and every terrorist word is analysed. If a suspecion is found, FBI/CIA comes in and most time the man just dissapear from his home.
CIA/Mossad etc toture them and their family so much so that with those chemicals injected to torture them, CIA will get most future plans of these terrorists. If it is good that he is dead, he may die in a foreign country. That is real Intelligence , the Mossad, the CIA, the MI6.
If some cleric in UAE is a problem, CIA manages to get him from UAE with no permission from their govt. They have done it, many a times.
USA/Israel are pragmatic people. Result required is at first decided, then all weapons in hand is used to acheive that aim, both inside and outside.
Islam cant survive their assault, in the final war
'ism' is vague word-one should not be married to anything--nationalism, secularism, Hinduism, Islam--be it.Everybody must pursue truth. And in this case, truth is moderate Muslims are soft on their radical part--indeed some may claim that radical Muslims know that they have support of the moderates.
First of all nobody fights for religion--everbody uses religion to meet their end. Whatever it is--thanks to high handed policy of American Govt against Muslims, there was not a single terror attack on US soil after 9-11. Unless we recognize that Muslims are not doing enough to check the radicals, we need to follow US footsteps. Sooner, the better.
RE:time for Hindu Jihad
by GodBlessEverybody on Aug 26, 2007 12:37 AM Permalink
Dont you get it????? You are doing exactly what those terrorists want!!! i.e. divide india !! good!!
RE:time for Hindu Jihad
by Shahenshah on Aug 26, 2007 12:42 AM Permalink
hey sucker - would like to hear from you when one of your near and dear meets the same fate as these 35 people - no offence meant - look at the US - it is run by the extreme right wing - since 9/11 they have not had a single incident of terrorism - it needs guts and integrity to protect your own people - which we dont have, period. We Indians are a bunch of shameless, disgraceful, disgusting morons, wasting time on movie stars instead of doing something proactive. JAI HIND! time for another Kurukshetra!
RE:time for Hindu Jihad
by Santosh on Aug 26, 2007 12:42 AM Permalink
you have to wake up "godblesseverybody", we need strong politicians like modi, advani and thakre to deal with the the terrorists. having a hard approach on terrorists is not being a terrorist.
RE:time for Hindu Jihad
by GodBlessEverybody on Aug 26, 2007 12:55 AM Permalink
where did i say "have a soft approach towards terrorist"?? arrest the person responsible and hang them. BUT "arrest the person responsible" and not any and every muslim you find in India. Modi/advani/thakre, they all give a shit about India/Hindus...all they care about is power/money/votes...and they get votes by dividing India!! I can understand your anger, but may be someday you would understand my logic, bro. God Bless you!
RE:time for Hindu Jihad
by Shahenshah on Aug 26, 2007 12:59 AM Permalink
your logic will not work in India - your logic is the same as that of our Congress founding fathers, who supported one group starting with the Khilafat movement - that community has increased from 2-3% to more than 12% and continues to grow, does NOT wish to integrate with mainstream Indian society, DOES NOT wish to get educated, DOES NOT wish to live in peace and harmony - thats a fact - what do you want to do now ? convert the whole of India into one religion ?
RE:time for Hindu Jihad
by Sriram on Aug 26, 2007 01:10 AM Permalink
so you think having the sangh parivar running India will actually HELP the muslims integrate better, educate themselves faster and live in peace and harmony?? If anything, it will only POLARISE India even more!! No ideology that is based on hatred can ever be all inclusive! There is no way you can CONVERT everyone back into Hinduism. We are forced to accept the fact that there are significant minorities. You don't have to appease them, and I think that is wrong. But you can't put 12% of India in jail either!!
RE:time for Hindu Jihad
by Shahenshah on Aug 26, 2007 08:13 AM Permalink
Sriram - go have a life - can you give one single practical solution to this problem ?? we are being F*CKED almost every month last several years - WHY have these incidents not stopped ? since 9/11 NOT A SINGLE ACT OF TERRORISM on US soil - isn't that something we need to learn from ? already the right wing in the US is rife with talk of stringent immigration norms - which might include people from certain religious groups - why the BLOODY HELL do we have to put up with this nonsense OVER and over and over again ?
RE:ISLAM IS A SATANIC RELIGION AND IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by Rajalakshmi on Aug 26, 2007 12:31 AM Permalink
Well, examples you have given from past to present cannot be denied. Can anyone say something good Islam has done or can anyone quote something good from it??..Just asking..I also came across a website which says that this is not true Islam and that is something different.."faithfreedom.org".....maybe Islam was something else and some top leaders are misguiding.
RE:ISLAM IS A SATANIC RELIGION AND IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by amit agrawal on Aug 26, 2007 12:44 AM Permalink
what prophet mohammad preached as islam is peace.followers have understood it as kill others.fight others.destroy others.
RE:ISLAM IS A SATANIC RELIGION AND IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by GodBlessEverybody on Aug 26, 2007 12:40 AM Permalink
lets not blame ISLAM for this. blame only the persons who are using a modified version of ISLAM for their own selfish motives! not everything from the history can be applied today.
RE:RE:ISLAM IS A SATANIC RELIGION AND IS A RISK TO THE WHOLE WORLD!!!
by mindgod on Aug 27, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
Why not, There are no discontinuities in Hisotry. There was no event in history that will / had made Islam into a non-violent religion.
From the day one they were blood suckers, even now they are , and will be ever until they are exterminated.
But Hindus cant do anything... Wait for Crusaders to act.. They are man, not shikandins like hindus... They know only one thing, cowardness... and sweet talk...
So GodBlessEverybody, u need not be afraid now, U have some much more time, until the game reaches as a direct play between USA/Israel and Muslims
Lets name this correctly first .. ISLAMIC TERROR. till we have the honesty in public discussion we will get nowhere. from tomorrow idiots on NDTV will start telling us how it is our fault that muslims are alienated while the idiots in BJP will say that it's nothing to do with india and this is an outside problem. Both are wrong. Let us state that muslims consider extremist actions in the name of their religion and also listen to their true issues. But only broadcasts we will see on TV will be hindu muslim bhai bhai nonsense no real discussion.
Much water had flown under the bridge. Terrorism started in India after 1971 war and precisely after 1977, fall of Janata Govt.by Indira Gandhi. Khalisthan and J&K issue started from that time. Gandhis,Nehrus,and other politicians are reaping the harvest.Only the common man was/is/will be facing the harvest, till such time 'vote bank/caste based ' politics is practiced in India as 'democracy'. In fact democracy had long back died/or made to die by these power mongers. That is why thy are after power by any means without caring for the safety of the common man. since the culprits are muslim outfits, for muslim votes, our politicians will never open their mouth. Let them forgo their commando security first and then let them see the ugly face of terrorism.
You know what the critical difference between India and another country on the other side of the globe is? When people die in a terrorist attack, that country responds, because it cares for its citizens.
It is time to respond. Enough is enough. A stern warning should be given to the government of Bangladesh along with a clear choice - to either immediately hunt down the perpetrators of this heinous crime and hand them over to justice, or to face military action. As someone in this forum has mentioned, Gandhi's philosophy may have been useful in its time, but is not now. The current menace of Islamic fundamentalism is no British Empire.
RE:Time to Respond
by Rajalakshmi on Aug 26, 2007 12:35 AM Permalink
Correct.It is a shame that some militant outfit has reached our country, threatening us but sure these Congress politicans would be knowing it.. they must have granted citizenship to these terror elements to vote for them in the elections.. As some one rightly pointed Out People who get killed in such terorist Acts are innocent people be it Christians or Hindus or Muslims.. these politicians are always safe.
RE:Time to Respond
by GodBlessEverybody on Aug 26, 2007 12:44 AM Permalink
its not only congress, none of the present politicians/party are concerned/bothered about our country/citizens. Terrorists cannot strike so easily and frequently without some support from the system. The politicians simply misuse such unfortunate incidents and divide our country further. lets throw these rotten pieces out before talking to anybody else.
RE:Time to Respond
by Shahenshah on Aug 26, 2007 01:02 AM Permalink
Gaurab - you are 300% correct! look at the US, since 9/11, they have not had a SINGLE attack in their homeland - they might have gone overboard with security measures, but its all working/paying! what have our leaders done ? bas**rds get Z category security spending 1000s of crores of taxpayers money, and the taxpayers are dying in blasts! we need the right wing back in power! to hell with peace
RE:Time to Respond
by Sriram on Aug 26, 2007 01:14 AM Permalink
you think all out war is better than terrorism? have you officially flipped your lid, dude? Right wingers will only create more terrorists, like how the US is creating thousands more terrorists in Iraq and afghanistan! And don't you get it?This is exactly what the terrorists want us to do - divide ourselves based on religion!! And you will be giving them exactly what they want if teh sangh parivar comes into power and starts persecuting all the muslims! I'm not saying you have to soft on terrorism - you need VERY good intelligence and you have to strike HARD on terrorists but you have to understand that not every single muslim is a terrorist! We have to definitely pressure pakistan and bangladesh, but getting the sangh parivar back is NOT an option.
