Sandeep Pandey is a naxalite supporter, and regularly attends meetings to extoll naxalites (killed by police) as martyrs. He always supports Pakistan on Kashmir. He doesn't do any work, and lives off the money given by innocent donors to his Commie organization Asha.
Aruna Roy...a Mao worshipper. Total fraud, and low-IQ demagogue. Her husband and she paid some Delhi architect to design some building, and then got the Aga Khan foundation to give her some award for the design!! Their devious plan backfired when the architect sued.
Medha Patkar and her goondas regularly get paid off by MNCs --- extortion money -- in return she doesn't "trouble" them with her protests. What a hypocrite!!
How can you say you are representatives of india.....Please dont assume roles for indian people....no one has asked you or authroised you guys represent people of india......if left with 5% of votes cannot represent india.....u guys are n where...and last but not least this deal is not about nuclear weapons but power to give much need electricity to people, industry etc.....cut this crap.....
If this the same Medha Patkar of the Narmada Bachao Andolan, I want to ask you a question. We tried to generate the cleanest source of power hydro power and a big chunk of it too from the Narmada. What did you do you went on a hnger strike and stopped the whole project. Now you are also saying nuclear power is not good. Are you joking or what? How much power do you think we could get from wind energy. Solar holds promise but I dont think you have the right to comment to anubody in India about which power is good. Hydro is the cleanest and you stopped it totally. After the Narmada fiasco no government is even willing to do feasibilty studies on hydro projects which there is a huge scope for in Sikkim, NorthEast etc. Just go back to your NBA and shut up.
RE:medha patkar
by Batman on Aug 24, 2007 02:42 AM Permalink
shes the biggest fool on this planet... all she knows is how to generate poverty... No work just sleep sleep n sleep all day
RE:medha patkar
by Ramiah Ariya on Aug 24, 2007 02:59 AM Permalink
2. The more insidious reason why people hate Medha and the NBA is because in ou minds, adivasis have no rights. As long as the government does not demolish our homes in Mumbai or Chennai, we will be happy to let it do anything to poor people around the country. That is the kind of arrangement the upper class urbanite has with our governments. That is the same kind of attitude that supports this nuclear deal
RE:medha patkar
by Batman on Aug 24, 2007 03:03 AM Permalink
we hate medha coz she maes sure the adivasis live a rotten life like u r livin a rotten life Ramiah
RE:RE:medha patkar
by deepak on Aug 24, 2007 03:19 AM Permalink
BS NBA ... There is no debate... Let them debate in CHINA, a country they love most... 5 stars activists from Delhi have found employment in pseudo andolans... These people are good for nothing, and left ignored...
RE:medha patkar
by Vishnu Sharma on Aug 24, 2007 03:18 AM Permalink
Yes, the Adivasis do have rights. The Right to starve because of your leftist policies. Rather than co-opting them into main stream and getting them to share in the building of the dam and getting wages for it. You want them to continue to live a hand to mouth existence on their tiny parcels of land. Well when a dam gets built, people get displaced. This is true anywhere in the world. The government should compensate them. But that does not mean the project should stop. You cannot make an omelete without breaking an egg. Instead of figuring out how to become part of the solution. The leftists are perennially thinking deeply on how to become part of the problem. The leftists want to be the road-block instead of the road to success. The days of the left are numbered. The days of Work, Freedom and Bread are not far away. The days are not far off when the Indian worker will shatter his marxist chains and joyously join with a song on his lips in the Nation building effort.
RE:medha patkar
by indiman on Aug 24, 2007 03:29 AM Permalink
The point is medha should keep her arguements to hydropower and Narmada Bachao Andolan. If the government couldnt extract enough power from a dam elevation of atleast 100 ft then that is a technical issue or somebody just didnt do their jobs right. Turbines will simply turn when a large quantity of water flows from that much height, they dont have minds to refuse to turn. Again the rehabilitation issue is the same its between the government and the people. If somebody is going to oppose hydrpower as a policy then we can rather be begging on the streets. But it is not upto Medha to say we should focus on renewable sources of energy because that is contradictory to her stand as hydro is the best renewable/ cleanest form of energy.
RE:RE:medha patkar
by mr on Aug 24, 2007 04:05 AM Permalink
She simply want some issues to make sure that she is there for the money she got from various funds. He want these people in these dam areas continue to live in those water danger areas. Also, we don't have some mechanism to displace 1.5 million people who don't utter a single word in some largest dam projects happening around world, you know.
RE:medha patkar
by Vishnu Sharma on Aug 24, 2007 02:45 AM Permalink
These people have no concept at all. They want to hold a candle in the wind and expect it to illuminate everyone's life. Great go ahead. Work shy- Leftists People like her would not have survived for even a day in china Imagine her trying to stop the three gorges dam project in china. (More people are getting displaced in that project that the narmada valley project) A single bullet to the head would have ended her story. Ha Ha Ha. We Indians are very kind towards such people.
RE:medha patkar
by Batman on Aug 24, 2007 02:48 AM Permalink
absolutely right. We are cursed to have poeple like commies karat yechury and medha arundhatu roy etc. Bt we the young resurgent liberal india will defeat these curses and every other obstacle to make india a superpower
RE:medha patkar
by Ramiah Ariya on Aug 24, 2007 02:56 AM Permalink
1. First of all, we should remember that the Narmada dam's height has been increased atleast 5 times since building it. From the first time, the claim of the government is that it will increase irrigation. When their claim proved wrong, they sought to raise the height again. In fact, the power generated from big dams or the irrigation benefits from it are too low - and not worth the effort spent in displacing so many people. That is the NBA's argument. Now, you may not agree with them - but then you should be able to debate them. The problem (as Medha mentions here) is that there IS no public debate in India about the consequences of government policy. In that she IS correct. 2. We should also note that the Gujarat and MP governments have violated their own laws multiple times while dealing with the displaced. This HAS been acknowledged by the SC. So, another facet of Medha's struggle has been to get the correct compensation. The main reason most people have joined in the struggle is because that IS true - the governments HAVE cheated on compensation to them. Thus, in this also, she is correct. The problem is, the reason why "educated" people from all over India oppose Medha is for two reasons: 1. Because she is a leftist. And our "educated" understanding of leftism goes from the so-called China "betrayal" to the belief that we had to stand in line for telephone because of leftists. The proof is that many of the comments here DO talk about such things instead of the nuc
Because it produces U233 as well as U232 Separating U-233 from U-232 by enrichment would be virtually impossible. Not only is there a very small mass difference between them, but the U-232 would be decaying rapidly and spraying the enrichment facility with hard gamma rays, killing everyone who wasn't behind a few feet of lead. Enrichment facilities aren't shielded, since natural uranium (U-235 and U-238) decays extraordinarily slowly over billions of years, and decays by emitting easily-shielded alpha particles. The enrichment facility would then be ruined for any future use with natural uranium because of U-232 contamination, and would have to be abandoned, at a loss of hundreds of millions of dollars.
RE:I oppose the article strongly.
by Sunil on Aug 24, 2007 02:39 AM Permalink
Well if u need more power why dont u spread the use of solar power and pump money to research that. Afterall we have 12 hours of daylight all through out the year with lots of sunshine unlike in europe.
RE:I oppose the article strongly.
by mr on Aug 24, 2007 04:09 AM Permalink
Solar Energy was invented almost a century. The Solar Energy from sun is available from the day world started, then wtf we did all these years telling 10 hrs power cuts.
RE:I oppose the article strongly.
by Batman on Aug 24, 2007 01:35 AM Permalink
this artcle is all crap written by a bunch of people who have neva eva worked in their life neva contibuted a single rupee towards the economic growth. they are pests who live on our blood. hw unfortunate to have these commies here. their biggest achievement till date is to make poor people even poorer....
We have seen what 43 years Nehruvian-Indira-Gandhian isolation has done to India. In 1990 we were on the verge of bankruptcy. We need to mesh into the global economy to derive benefits. That is how countries like Japan, Singapore, Thailand, Taiwan, Malaysia and South Korea have prospered. We need to be busy like a bee-hive. But all these leftists want to do is to deprive the common man of both job and bread. They want to reduce the standard of living of the common man with empty slogans and RED paint. The common man in India has seen the difference in the last 10 years compared to 43 years before that and WILL not be fooled. The fate of the left is Sealed forever in India. "No POWER on earth can thwart an IDEA whose time has come."
RE:All leftists are isolationists.
by Ramiah Ariya on Aug 24, 2007 01:36 AM Permalink
You should note that the "common" man's life has actually become much worse in the last 15 years - India has SLIPPED in the Human Development Index (HDI) from 123 to 127. Namibia is ahead of us, by the way. Of course, for most people who comment in rediff, the "common" man is an upper class, upper caste person.
The countries you mention, Japan, Singapore and South Korea all DID NOT globalize - in fact the only countries that followed liberalisation as dictated by the "Washington Consensus" were Argentina, Mexico and other Latin American countries - and these COMPLETELY failed - with hyper inflation. Japan and South Korea, for example followed a policy of HIGH trade tariffs and state directed development (refer "State Directed Development" by Atul Kohli). They had massive PUBLIC investment.That is they had the exact OPPOSITE policies as liberalisation. That is why they succeeded. The standard of living in India, according to the HDI which measures education, Infant mortality and female infanticide is much worse NOW than 15 years back. It helps to know some facts before commenting.
RE:All leftists are isolationists.
by Batman on Aug 24, 2007 01:38 AM Permalink
the only people who have failed is u whoo do not wanna work n alwaze lookout for a free lunch. u lazy morons. u knw hw many houses have come out of financial collapse due to the BPO industry...
RE:All leftists are isolationists.
by Vishnu Sharma on Aug 24, 2007 01:50 AM Permalink
People like you are pessimistic leftist liars. It is a known fact that we have only 30% of population below poverty line as apposed to 60% population below poverty line during the years of Nehruvian-Stalinism. Also people are more brand conscious and have more choice in various matters. Roads are improving, Highways are being built We have money to invest in infrastructure now when previously we did not have any money. Things will be a lot better if Marx and his pernicious minions are kicked out of India.
RE:All leftists are isolationists.
by Ramiah Ariya on Aug 24, 2007 02:01 AM Permalink
Known fact? Known to who? All that you have to do to prove your case is cite me a source that says we went from 60% to 30% BPL. Here is my source on the HDI: http://hdr.undp.org That is the UN human development statistics page. Acknowledging facts seems like pessimism to you? You are not an optimist - by not realizing our problems you and others complicate the lives of the common man. That is not optimism. That is ignorance and negligence. I do not understand what you mean by "Stalinism". When was Stalinism practiced in India? For that matter what is "Nehruvian"? Are you implying Nehru came up with socialism? You do realize socialist policies form the basis of the best livable countries in the world - Canada, Sweden and Norway? Who is brand conscious? How does that translate to choice? What percentage of Indians are you talking about? Things, of course, will be a lot better for the likes of people who caused the Bhopal disaster, if "Marxists are kicked out of India".
RE:All leftists are isolationists.
by Vishnu Sharma on Aug 24, 2007 02:32 AM Permalink
Education, Infant mortality and female infanticide are social issues. You cannot alter the criminality of a rich man who kills a female child. Asking for Dowry is also a social issue. Because rich also indulge in it. You cannot bring social issues here.PLEASE BE SENSIBLE. Stalinism is the personality cult associated with the congress and the left. Everything in India is named after Nehru, Indira or Rajiv and the license Raj firmly restricted growth of Enterpreneurship. Also we continue to adhere to outdated policies like Non-Alignment long after the cold war. People like you are opposed to the common man having cell phones. The Bhopal Gas disaster was an isolated case. You need to and have the authority to lay down the law of the land when foreign companies establish plants in India. Safety measures etc are the job of the government to enforce. The government should also force companies to setup plants away from population centers. Just because an accident happened does not mean foreign companies are not welcome. That would suite you leftists very well. Neither do you want to work nor do you want others to work. Everybody goes and strike and sits down waving the red flag and shouting slogans on an empty stomach. Sorry. I was not raised like that. Work is a source of pride for 90% Indians who do not want to be mislead by 10 % leftists.
RE:All leftists are isolationists.
by Ramiah Ariya on Aug 24, 2007 02:45 AM Permalink
1. Education, Infant mortality ARE some of the indices by which development is determined - not just GDP. By focussing on GDP growth you and others are forgetting that there is a bigger picture. It has nothing to do with social issues or otherwise - your claim that Indian lives are better now is patently based on GDP growth and nothing else. 2. Is the personality cult NOT associated with the right (BJP, Shiv Sena)? In fact the left parties are the few remaining that have great inner party democracy. 3.I keep asking you to define common man - you obviously are thinking about upper class city-bred people (because only their lives have gotten better). 4.Where did this myth that leftists somehow do less work originate? You do realize that the American Democratic party, and the UK Labor Party are leftist? And are you claiming that 50% of Americans who vote for the Democrats do not work? Your comments on leftists have no touch with reality - just in politics, the left parties have a better attendance record (that is work too) in parliament than all the other parties. Volunteer activism is maximal in left parties. Be informed when you do public posting.
RE:All leftists are isolationists.
by Ary Doriz on Aug 24, 2007 01:36 AM Permalink
Let me tell you, there was no Nehruvian isolation. Isolation began only after 1965, after Nehru's death.
Indira Gandhi sought support of US but Nixon supported Pakistan and China so, she had to go to Soviet Union. Had it not been for that, one cannot imagine what would have happened in 1971 war. USS Enterprise sailing close to Indian waters and China opening a war front alongwith Pakistan.
RE:RE:All leftists are isolationists.
by Batman on Aug 24, 2007 01:45 AM Permalink
so u mean to say we shuld always remain like hw we were in 1971. global political dynamics keep on changin. one needs to adapt to gain maximum benefit from those changes. u cannot live in isolation. todays global politics and the kind of hostile environment india is surrounded by demands that india align with the democraic powers like the US. woz wrng wi dat. the US has neva invaded india, the chinese did. The US arms pkistan no doubt bt its nt India specific. Whereas the chinese arm pakistan aiming specifically towards india and that 2 nuclear weapons and missiles. Its the chinese state policy to keep india bogged down in petty fights with pakistan so india has no time to grow. wheres the new US policy is to help india become a superpower. Our policy shuld be to gain maximum mileage from this current changing geopolitical system. Indian interesrs come first.
It is amazing to me that most of the guys commenting here curse our politicians all the time - but whenever a politician says "we will be a super power by 2020" or some such crass BS, these guys are ready to believe them. As long as you guys do not suffer, you are ready for huge highways that split villages; huge dams that violate our own laws. Medha LIVES with the adivasis and common people of the Narmada valley. Our governments can say anything that invokes power and prestige - huge dams that keep getting bigger; or a nuclear deal such as this. Look at the array of "brilliant" arguments here: nuclear energy saves us from global warming (it does not); that we will all have electricity if only this deal goes through (we won't);that we will have economic independence if only we agreed to this deal (we will actually have lesser independence). Going for this deal or going nuclear does not somehow make us a "super power". And it is not important to be a super power. It is the masterful spin of our upper class media that somehow makes this deal as a do-or-die situation for India. All that Medha is asking for is a debate.
RE:Too Much Trust?
by Batman on Aug 24, 2007 01:30 AM Permalink
Only 2 nations in the whole world are opposing this Indo US nuclear deal, China and Pakistan.... China has the Most Favored NAtion status with the US and opposes the same status for India. China has got a similar nuclear deal with the US bt opposes the deal with India... Jyoiti Basu of CPM protested against Indian defence againt chinese invasion of india in 1962 and was jailed by Nehru for anti India activities. Basu went on to become the CM of bengal. Commies never condemn Chinese claim of arunachal Pradesh whn the people themselves want top be part of India.. CPM opposes Indian nuclear progress bt has no problems with Chinas nuclear arming of pakistan whch are targeted towards India and supports iranian nuclear program. The communists oppose ndustrialiazation in India and went on killing 100's of poor farmers in Singur and Nandigram tryin to grab farmers fertile land for setting up industries. Commies are ruling bengal for more than 30 years now and have reduced bengal from being the finest to being the poorest.. Only big industry in commie ruled states bangal and kerala are trade unions and their number one product is strikes and bandh. Commies vociferously opposed introduction of computers by rajiv gandhi, commies cald computers as evil and against national interest. Commies neva condemned chinese invasion of India in 1962. Commies do not recognize aksai chin in kashmir as part of india. And yes the commies got a new name now "Headless Chickens and Spineless Morons".
RE:Too Much Trust?
by Niharika Sharma on Aug 24, 2007 05:54 AM Permalink
you are too good Ariya in putting down your points that rest of the people are not even worth to match your clibre. Most of the pro-capitalist, so called anti-pseudo secularist, saviour of india(India of the rich, affluent, upper middleclass urbanites who only knows to slag the communist as commies) are mostly boring. If they are so correct why do they fear open debate with real facts(not imaginative or purposefully created ones) with anti deal group ? I am nt against the deal but I am ready to hear who speaks logically. If communist become traitor for their so called proximity to China then why nt cong, bjp for their so called proximity to us ? There are good and bad things to learn from each country, be it china or us. Even the pro deal group has some points bt cant they speak w/o targetting groups. They seems to be less bothered abt the main issue that communist have raised i.e the deal and its meaning. They are more bothered abt communist bashing. We lose our temper when we feel we have nothing substansive to talk.
RE:Too Much Trust?
by Vishnu Sharma on Aug 24, 2007 07:23 AM Permalink
Because we need to go with historical facts: Here are a few questions to ask: Q: Has china coveted our territory and invaded us? Ans: yes. 1962. They want all of Arunachal, Bhutan, Nepal and Sikkim.
Q: Does china occupy Indian territory ? Ans: Yes. Aksai Chin.
Q: Does china fear and hate us ? Ans: Yes. They vetoed our seat in the UNSC.
Q: Is china illegally occupying and supressing a whole people who are refugees in our land ? Ans: yes (Tibet)
Q:Has China helped us before ? Ans: Never.
Q:Does china have border disputes with all her neighbors ? Ans: Yes
Q: Is china a democracy where there is an active opposition which questions her destructive policies. Is there any accountability ? Ans: No.
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Q: Has USA coveted our territory and invaded us? Ans: No Never
Q: Does USA occupy Indian territory ? Ans: No
Q: Does USA fear and hate us ? Ans: No they offered us a seat in the UNSC before.
Q: Is USA illegally occupying and supressing a whole people ? Ans: No, Not in this century.
Q:Has USA helped us before ? Ans: Many a time before. 1962, 1977,1981
Q:Does USA have border disputes with all her neighbors ? Ans: No
Q: I USA a democracy where there is an active opposition which questions her destructive policies ? Ans: Yes
