The Chinese consulate in Delhi is just a white elephant, a show - her real 'embassy' is located in West Bengal's CPI headquarters, with guys like Yechury, Karat, Jyoti thier well financed ambassadors, eminently poised to counter any threats to China's hegemony in Asia, especially in South Asia.
For years Congress condoned and even supported this situation, this too when the Left didn't weild such power at the center. Now finally the time has come for the treacherous Cong hypocrites to show their true colors - either they succumb to the Commies traitors or they do what's right for the country, come what may, otherwise it might turn out to be the last time Cong sells out the nation's interests to the Commies to suit their own selfish interests.
While you formulate your theory of China as enemy keep in mind that more than 10,000 people including Engineers are working in China, like in any other country. More than 10,000 students studying in China. All established Indian companies are running businesses in China for the last 7-8 years. More than 20 Chinese companies are selling goods in India at cheaper rate than our own national or MNC companies. Just keep prepard to pay electricity price at around Rs.8 from an American plant and not take at Rs.3 from a Chinese-Indian joint plant. But leaving apart these economic no escape situations, we should play it tactically as no nation or conglomerate should be given free space to dominate others. In that light the pressure should be kept from our side also politically. Otherwise China will prove to be another America inflicting wars everywhere. So all these arrangements are temporary. Don't think flatly that America is our friend and China is our enemy. We have to keep diplomatic relationship with everybody and rake up the maximum benfits for India. Although we should not stop preaching the message of love spread by our early Rishis or Buddha,Gandhi,Tagore CPIM has made Bengal poor, same way, look at the farmer suicide rate at Maharashtra or Andhra. We should think nationally. In this ill informed, conditioned democratic structure it is not easy to form a true sovereign opinion. Lets have an open national debate on critical issue like 123. Let it be constitutional right.
RE:lets have national debate
by lalit khairnar on Aug 19, 2007 08:48 PM Permalink
Why r u forgoting that US has contributed more to raise our economy. Also given a chance to work and to raise there own buisness to indians. India has got the confidance of being a superpower mainly because success of indians working in US.
RE:lets have national debate
by AMIT SEN on Aug 19, 2007 08:56 PM Permalink
yes communists in bengal are the most corrupted,selfish and hypocrits.they closed all the industries they were against the open market economy and now they are inviting foreign investments.manmohan shud not bother about these corrupt communists like buddhadev
RE:lets have national debate
by vijayaraj d.t. on Aug 19, 2007 08:58 PM Permalink
As everyone know Chinese flood the markets all over the world with cheap goods, but at whose cost? They are manufactured in sub-standard condition for the employees and with toxic chemicals etc., When you talk about electricity why don't you think about the subsidies and free power to the farmers, it's is the service of the Government to give power to all but at the cost of the others. The mentality of the Communist must change they put red tape to their eyes and see. Let them get rid of the red tapeism first
I think the US has used up Pakistan (against India, Iraq, Gulf region and maybe Russia). Now when it has no use for Pakistan it is turning towards India. So that it can use India against China....
Agreed China is our enemy, but US is not our friend either, in fact US is nobody's friend. Just look at what it did to Saddma and Taliban (which were its own creations). Maybe US is a greater enemy since it is behind the cloak.
India should not faal in the trap of the US nuke deal. We have so much of natural resources. We big rivers in abundance, why cannot we use these natural resources to take care of our fuel and energy security.
I think Manmohan singh and even the earlier BJP government have been very Naive to have taken this bait from US. What say???
RE:India is too big for the US to think of it as a stooge nation....
by Sun on Aug 19, 2007 09:04 PM Permalink
Hey you cousin of Laden, get lost go to Afghan where your cousin is hiding like a rat.
RE:India is too big for the US to think of it as a stooge nation....
by adfasd asdasd on Aug 19, 2007 09:21 PM Permalink
I think you are a sick person...you need a jaadu ki jhappi....
I need you to think over what i have written and then give a logical argument to it....
The language you use is of fanatics and it makes you probably a much closer cousin of Laden, Bush, Modi than anyone else...
Dear Sir, I also feel the same. Few days back I was also thinking in the same light. Left parties in India are the agents of China and they have not yet understood that Marxism is on its way to perish.There should be proper investigation of the left party leaders. They must be acting silently for China. Bcoz now the only country more worried about Indo US N-deal is China and next is Pakistan.
The history will never firgive these agents of China. They are harming only India by opposing this N deal.
First of all, I thought the Congress's relationship with the Left was a one night stand. Well, it did turn out to be more than that, and now Singh Saab and Soniaji have only themselves to blame for this unholy alliance. Having said that, I would still side with the Communists about the Nuclear deal, not because we are surrounded by Mullas, but simply because I don't like the white guy telling me what I should do and what I shouldn't. Living in the USA, I can understand their "love" for India firsthand. To put it simply, the USA and Americans for that matter, tolerate us as a necessary evil, and what better deal can you get than an obedient necessary evil? We've done fairly well without American supercomputers baking bread for us all these years, and I guess we will keep doing well even in the future. Why this sudden love for India and it's wellbeing? Even if this decision turns out to be a historical blunder, so be it. Afterall, we are at liberty to burst our crakers. America is a nation that lies repeatedly and unconvincingly at that. When Bush found no WMD's in Iraq, Iraq's relationship with Bin Laden became his pursuit. What prevents them from scrapping the deal a year later on some flimsy pretext or the other? If we could make steel when the rest of the world didn't wear clothes, we can make all the nuclear fuel we need whether or not America likes it. And, the sooner we get rid of the Leftist jokers, the better or we will have a Kerala-Bengal-India.
RE:Stupid Communists
by seshu Koduganti on Aug 19, 2007 08:43 PM Permalink
If you don't agree on US Nuclear Deal, then what options do you propose? Do you side with Commies and China? Com'on, Do you know how long our own LCA got delayed, 30 years and still not inducted in IAF. Don't give the crap that we can do it ourselves. Bhaba, Vikram Sarabhai, Abdul Kalam were all trained in US in Dual Use Technology. We can do only if US allows us to study the dual use technology and our institutions collaborate with the US Universities in Research.
manmohan is the prime minister of india , he is an educated man who knows more about the future of india.it is because of him that today our gdp is rising our economy has a sustained growth rate of 8%.
These corrupt communists of india opposed to Man mohan's policy of open market economy 17 years ago,and now these communists are killing innocent poor people of west bengal ,in the name of creating industry, as they are now realising the importance of industry after 17 years.
People should understand we need civil nuclear power to prevent power cuts and maintain economic growth and industrial growth ,we dont have enough coal,for hydel power.
If their are inspectors from international atomic comm to.. inspect our nuclear stations,it not going to harm us,after all what ? are we going to acheive making nuclear bombs.and why will the world supply nuclear fuel to india, if their is no guarantee that india will not make atomic tests for military purposes.
we need nuclear fuel to mainatin our nuclear reactors which is going to help common masses ,we dont need nuclear bombs.
therefore dont support the selfish and corrupt communists of india. support manmohan.
I am an nri and i can feel the importance of india needing nuclear reactors for future growth.
Guys n Gals, why don't we support CPI-(M) to do something good for India and offcourse for a change!!!
Conditional support terms:
1. Support 123 Agreement with US or Persuade China to supply Nuclear fuel.
2. Pursuade China to resolve our border disputes (North east and Aksai Chin).
3. Pursuade China to support India for UN security council permanent seat.
4. Stop supporting and arming Pakistian (our arch enemy).
Many more, but these are enough for now to support you.
If you can't do anything, then keep your mouth shut and support the ruling party for a better India....any replies!!! (especially from our Mao brothers!)
RE:To CPI-(M): Support 123 Agreement with US or Persuade China to supply Nuclear fuel.
by seshu Koduganti on Aug 19, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
I like this. Why don't the so called responsible media like TOI, The Hindu, Indian Express publish this on their front page editorial, because they are all leftist? Most of the Journalists are still leftists, that is why we are getting this widespread coverage. We need some thing like referendum and let these commies know what people think. They already did a blunder in electing a tainted person as president in 21st Century. We cannot afford to allow this again. Indian Commies still don't get it even when China got it in 1970's, when they forged pact with Nixon and Kissinger.