PM and Congress party in this case have done correctly to go through with the deal and try to make sure that Indian economic growth of duble digits is not hindered by energy shortage.
But Unfortunately these commies, 'china ke tatoo', traitors, bangladeshi agents who always are opposed to Indian US ties will make sure that india is dragged back into poverty as West bengal.
RE:RE:PM Did right
by Taklu Gandhi on Aug 19, 2007 05:59 AM Permalink
Sikhs along with Rajputs and Marathas are the most bravest people in India. Guru Gobind Singh ji Maharaj fought against muslim injustice to Hindus. He sacrificed his childrens for Hinduism. Koti Koti Namaskar to Guru Teg Bahadur Ji for his sacrifice. During partition, Sikhs along with punjabi Hindus taught muslims a lesson, they will never forget. Mr Sikh Pride, please ignore grt. Sikhs (except Manmohan Singh)are really pride of India.
The main problem with our people, they don't find ways to improve the power generation & improvements, instead they think suspicious in all matters & discussing ways to curtail development. Is that bad if we get some uranium or some natural gas or some more coal to power our generators? Left or Right tell.
I dont know which public opinion the left are representing.Do the poor prople say, we do not need electricity. The politicians are supposed to be a reflection of the people's opinions.The legislative system of the country has someserious flaws.95% of the people wanted kalam to be the president, but he was insulted and could not even contest. Even when 50% of the people were opposing reservations in education, not a single politician in the parliament was found standing against it.Now when 2/3rd people are supporting the nuclear deal ,2/3rd of the parliament is against it. The legislative procedure needs serious reform.
RE:What is happening...
by on Aug 19, 2007 01:49 AM Permalink
Left is the failed concept, they are bone lickers, 3/4th support the deal, 1/4 may or not decide anything.
RE:What is happening...
by Vipin Gupta on Aug 19, 2007 01:56 AM Permalink
The flaw is that the politicians put the interest of the political class above that of common people.It is understandable because anybody would keep himself above others if given the power.There should be some strong disincentives for this.Parliamentarians should be allowed vote independently and not forced by paty writs.The horse trading issue should be solved in some other way instead of making provision for writs that must be applied for only specific issues like support to the government etc..
(1) Also, china will get any amount of uranium w/o any restrictions. (2) Also, china can proliferate to any extent, not only uranium, they get from other countries, but they will send live nuclear bombs to rough nations. (3) They were in the list of nuclar weepon seat w/o any contribution to the world community.
RE:China does all these, but still getting supplies. These Chamchas of china left still opposing Nuclear deal which supplies nuclear.
by on Aug 19, 2007 01:24 AM Permalink
They can be join with Sudanse forces to kill 200,000 & displace 2 million people. They can kill satellite & create debris in the atmosphere. They can pollute industry, & create global warming to an alarming level. They use toxic in paints of school children toys & pet foods. They use toxic in tooth paste. Our China is a true leader, ha ha ha in the modern world. We are strong, super duper power.
RE:China does all these, but still getting supplies. These Chamchas of china left still opposing Nuclear deal which supplies nuclear.
by on Aug 19, 2007 01:30 AM Permalink
America or Indian don't have dare to test human in space. They have deal with Dog first, then monkey, then successful only humans. Ha Ha cowards countries. China is great.
Left party is Chinese agents in India and doing every thing to make our country weaker.. They supported China in 1962 war.. They r anti India.. So logic is very simple.. If Left oppose it, then it's better for INdia.. Ppl in WB & Kerala pls throw them out of power.. That will be a great service to India..
N'importe quelle armée franchissant la frontière indienne sera nuked par une arme nucléaire tactique. Est-ce qu'alors comment n'importe qui peut capturer la terre indienne ?
RE:Art de guerre
by RealDavid Johnson on Aug 19, 2007 01:03 AM Permalink
Pero qu?i los chinos destruyen todo el poste indio del ej?ito en Arunachal usando los misiles o energ?de aire. En vista de que ? all?o es ning??ito indio a la izquierda que est?arado en el estado, no ser?osible que los guerrilas invadir y funcionen un gobierno paralelo en Arunachal. Nuestro polity ser?efenceless contra tal maniobra
RE:RE:Art de guerre
by Vipin Gupta on Aug 19, 2007 01:13 AM Permalink
Your question--> "Pero qu? is the Chinese destroy all the Indian post of ej? ito in Arunachal using the missiles or energ? of air. In view of which? all? or he is ning? ito Indian to the left that est? plow in the state, not to be? youible that guerrilas to invade and works a parallel government in Arunachal. Ours polity to be? efenceless against such maneuver" ---- You are saying that if the chinese invade arunachal we should launch a guerrila warfare. -------- But why let that happen in the first place??
RE:Art de guerre
by mbawmba on Aug 19, 2007 01:06 AM Permalink
O Congress, BJP e o partido comunista de India n?t?nenhum approacvh coherent para tackle o aggression chin? Nosso polity ?undo famoso para ser lento nas mat?as que requerem uma resposta do quicjk. A lata Manmohan, Advani e Karat pode come? junto enfrentar tal adversity.
RE:Art de guerre
by David Johnson on Aug 19, 2007 01:00 AM Permalink
Ha. Tutto l'esercito inavding sar?aporizzato prima che possano utter Jericho. La bomba nucleare d'esplosione nel vostro proprio territorio non costituisce un atto di aggressione. Sar?na sconfitta politica per il aggresor.
RE:Art de guerre
by mbawmba on Aug 19, 2007 12:59 AM Permalink
Was, wenn der Befehl und die Kommunikation zerst?wird? Wird Indien sich revanchieren in der Zeit?
RE:Art de guerre
by Vipin Gupta on Aug 19, 2007 01:07 AM Permalink
Google Translation of your post --> "Any army crossing the Indian border will be nuked by a tactical nuclear weapon. Then how no matter who can capture the Indian ground?" ------------------ I percieve that you mean that no army can invade the indian border as india has tactical nuclear weapons that may be used on any advancing army---------- True, but if the advancing army also has tactical nuclear weapons, than it becomes a numbers game.
RE:Art de guerre
by David Johnson on Aug 19, 2007 01:08 AM Permalink
Manmohan singh und Advani haben enorme Erfahrung ?ndische Politik. Aber unsere fremde Politik erfordert etwas tiefen Gedanken. Wir sind vom Rest der Welt bis 1990 lokalisiert worden. Und was m?wir zeigen tro der Welt - Lalu, Rabri, wie?
RE:Art de guerre
by Wife Hunter on Aug 19, 2007 01:12 AM Permalink
Ich bin mit David auf diesem einverstanden. Die indische Armeeeinrichtung mu?prethought im Drehbuch, da?unsere Staatsverwaltung schwach oder unf?g ist, eine milit?sch wichtige Entscheidung zu treffen. W?end der Zeit des Krieges ist jede Sekunde wichtig. Wir k?n nicht eine Armee auf St?aben, w?end Manmohan, Advani und Karat bem?nd, mit einander zu debattieren. China w?ns durch Sturm genommen haben und die Debatte wird noch weitergehen.
RE:Art de guerre
by Vipin Gupta on Aug 19, 2007 01:28 AM Permalink
Translation Spanish to English: "Ouais. I think that India must think very seriously on that. Goodbye." ------ Thanks for your advice.
RE:RE:Art de guerre
by Vipin Gupta on Aug 19, 2007 01:32 AM Permalink
Translation "Ich bin put David auf diesem einverstanden. Die indische driven Armeeeinrichtung? prethought im Drehbuch, da? unsere Staatsverwaltung schwach oder unf? G STI, eine milit? sch wichtige Entscheidung zu treffen. W? end der Zeit of Krieges STI jede Sekunde wichtig. Wir K? N nicht eine Armed auf St? aben, W? end Manmohan, Advani und Karat bem? Nd, put einander zu debattieren. W clouded? NS durch Sturm genommen haben und die Discusses wird noch weitergehen.
&nb sp;" ----------- Sorry cant understand that but u seem to be appaled at the state of indian politics with so many political parties.According to me they represent the healthy diversity of the country and change is required not in the political system but the mindset of the politicians.
Communist are getting the money from China is a common knowledge.They are opposing the deal just to please the Chinese.This deal is the best for India.Hope common sense prevails Karat
We need to vote these buddhe khusat politicians out of power and replace them with young leaders.They have no idea of india's future and no will power to think about it.If some people like kalam and manmohan singh think about it, they oppose them for petty politics.Its time to rise young men and women.Every nuclear weapons state on earth can trade in nuclear fuel.First they cry hoarse that india is not allowed to do the same.Now when we are given a treaty to level this up, they say we are selling ourselves.India is not a hair in a donkey's tail that can be whisked away.We are the world's third largest economy and will be the second most powerful country on the face of this earth in 30 years time(bigger than the USA).That is why the USA wants us because it knows what it does with us today, we will do to it tommorow.When we should be striving to shoulder our share of the responsibility we are busy being sceptical and suspicious.The USA is a liberal democratic country my dear friends and its values(except for the percieved racial superiority) are more similar to us than any other powerful country in this world. We both want each other's support for a better future for mankind, to bring countries out of dictatorships to democracies.To eliminate terrorism.To create an integrated and just political and economic system in this world.There is no use being suspicious my friends.You can post your questions any I shall answer all of them.
RE:Come on young people
by Chethil Sudheesh on Aug 19, 2007 01:26 AM Permalink
Dear Shishir, I think you have some problems with Tam. why are you always looking for religion/cast/region. Please get away from this and come and live in this age. And I am not a Tam. I don't even want to tell you who I am. Becase you don't deserve the answer.
The deal is simple.China wants Arunachal Pradesh.Thay have got 500 nukes and we have got only 50.And we do not have any uranium either.Beijing olympics will conclude in 2008.China can easily attack india and take the whole of arunachal pradesh.What will you do?? Threaten to nuke them?? If you do they will say,nuke 50 of our cities and we will nuke 500 of yours.The left parties are chinese agents in india.They will do everything they can to block the deal.If we do not get any uranium the chinese will take arunachal for breakfast.And perhaps the whole of india for lunch.Good night.Karat will be in beijing.I am going to sydney.Bye Bye INDIA.
RE:All politicians are self serving
by on Aug 19, 2007 12:36 AM Permalink
(1) Also, china will get any amount of uranium w/o any restrictions. (2) Also, china can proliferate to any extent, not only uranium, they get from other countries, but they will send live nuclear bombs to rough nations. (3) They were in the list of nuclar weepon seat w/o any contribution to the world community.
RE:All politicians are self serving
by Chethil Sudheesh on Aug 19, 2007 12:32 AM Permalink
Dear Mr. Vipin Gupta, Please understand first line of the 123 agreement. USA is supplying Uranium not for India to make nuclear bomb.
RE:All politicians are self serving
by Vipin Gupta on Aug 19, 2007 12:46 AM Permalink
If we get uranium for reactors, our uranium will be freed up for bombs.We can make the same at 100 per year instead of 20 an year.If we do not get any uranium from outside we may not be able to run any more power plants because we must use our scant resources for bombs, not power plants.
RE:All politicians are self serving
by Chethil Sudheesh on Aug 19, 2007 12:49 AM Permalink
Dear Friend, Do you know really about it. How many bomb India has?. If you know all these details then you are a spy.
RE:All politicians are self serving
by Vipin Gupta on Aug 19, 2007 12:52 AM Permalink
My knowledge is acquired from reading on expert opinions in 100s of defence and strategy journals from most countries that matter in this world.What I am saying is common knowledge among military circles.
RE:All politicians are self serving
by Chethil Sudheesh on Aug 19, 2007 01:03 AM Permalink
Dear, Do you know one reality. Our scientists working on these line in BARC and other DAE institutes are not allowed to publish papers in the journals mentiond by you. I too read a lot about these experts columns. Some says india doen't even have nuclear bombs !!!!
RE:All politicians are self serving
by Vipin Gupta on Aug 19, 2007 02:03 AM Permalink
But most US intelligence agency papers put the numbers that way and it is quite logical because india tested a bomb in 1998 and china did in 1964 and no one makes bombs before testing.
RE:All politicians are self serving
by Gmail vs Rediffmail : Whois is better ? on Aug 19, 2007 12:36 AM Permalink
forgoet 50 or 100 use one nuke only your country progress will be 20 years back.
RE:RE:All politicians are self serving
by Vipin Gupta on Aug 19, 2007 12:48 AM Permalink
For this very reason ,even if attacked you can not use any nukes.You have only one option ,try and defeat them in a conventional war.On this front china is clearly more powerful.
RE:All politicians are self serving
by SUMIT KAUL on Aug 19, 2007 02:53 AM Permalink
I truly agree that China is numerically superior, however that doesnt translate to victory in war. There are many weapon platforms in India that you guys dont know about and last year chinese russian exercises, russian found them very poor. In korean war 120,000 of them were vaporised on one day. Number is not equal to victory
RE:All politicians are self serving
by Wife Hunter on Aug 19, 2007 12:55 AM Permalink
N'importe quelle armée franchissant la frontière indienne sera nuked par une arme nucléaire tactique. Est-ce qu'alors comment n'importe qui peut capturer la terre indienne ?
This "holier than thou" attitude is what could aggravte the situation more vis-a-vis the allies for the congress. It seems from the statements of the various Congress persons that they have a patent on the "National Interest" and that the opposition doe not have the national interest in mind. I fonly that was true, then Inidia would have been a much better place.
