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by Neeraj on Aug 08, 2007 08:14 PM  Permalink 

Dina was disowned by Jinnah as she married a non-Muslim (She herself was a daughter of a Parsi Indian)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dina_Wadia

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Tragedy of India
by unni krishnan nair on Aug 08, 2007 07:40 PM  Permalink 



It is easy to call Jinnah a traitor. That gives a stamp on our patriotism also.

But if you read history objectively you will find Jinnah was not at all interested in politics or organising Muslims. In fact he was more secular than many of our leaders. Being a foreign educated Barrister he was more western than the westerners. He was totally opposed to Gandhis supporting the Khilafat movement. He used to say that this step of Gandhi would sow the seed of extra national loyalty amongst Muslims and what happens to the Kaliph has nothing to do with Indian Muslims.
You cant be more secular than that. Can you? His initial thoughts were finest examples of Nationalistic feelings.

But then the appeasing policies of Congress under Gandhi made him think of hijacking the Minority plank and it took him just 10 years to plan and execute a strategy which ended in partition.

It is unfortunate that our leadership converted a Nationalist Muslim into a Communal politician. Thats the tragedy of India.

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And tommorrow they can claim India
by Kishore on Aug 08, 2007 07:27 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

tomorrow they will say India legitimately belongs to them as before British ,Mughals ruled India

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RE:And tommorrow they can claim India
by Sunit Kumar on Aug 08, 2007 09:23 PM  Permalink
Kishore, just correcting ur knowledge, between the Mughals and British taking over there is a gap og 100-150 years, dear Marathas were rulling, remember battle of Panipat yes Marathas went till ATTOK in Afghanistan. Before British the Mugals were soundly defeated, infact Marathas allowed the Sikh Kingdom to expand thats why you have Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa declaration That the Granth is the last Guru happening in NANDED (Maharashtra), unfortunately its only in History pages and no where else !!!

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RE:And tommorrow they can claim India
by Mukund Pande on Aug 08, 2007 10:41 PM  Permalink
ATTOK is in Pakistan and not in Afghanistan.

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RE:And tommorrow they can claim India
by faithfreedom on Aug 08, 2007 08:06 PM  Permalink
cmon
dont get the imaginations run wild. let not emotions take over
"""Wadia (88), the mother of textile magnate Nusli Wadia of the Bombay Dyeing [Get Quote] group, claims that the title of the house be handed over to her as she is Jinnah's only heir.""

THATS IT.
Where is question of India losing out??



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RE:And tommorrow they can claim India
by prabhat mohanty on Aug 09, 2007 09:47 AM  Permalink

The Gentleman went by the Headline only. He did not read the article.

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Raze Jinnah's house to ground and make free toilet for all
by virender singh on Aug 08, 2007 07:17 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I think it will be a fitting tribute to jinnah the traitor if the house is razed to ground and converted into Sulabh shouchalaya.......free for all .....and it can be named Pakistan . Whole new meaning to the term....i am going to pakistan .

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RE:Raze Jinnah's house to ground and make free toilet for all
by sachin vishwakarma on Aug 08, 2007 07:24 PM  Permalink
what about opening a p!g-farm ????

~_^ ----------> wink

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RE:Raze Jinnah's house to ground and make free toilet for all
by hypermemory on Aug 08, 2007 07:33 PM  Permalink
Hey ! Hello u borrowed my style !!!!!

" ~_^ ----------> wink "

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RE:Raze Jinnah's house to ground and make free toilet for all
by sachin vishwakarma on Aug 08, 2007 07:42 PM  Permalink
oh sorry my mistake

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RE:Raze Jinnah's house to ground and make free toilet for all
by Anil Tandale on Aug 08, 2007 08:26 PM  Permalink
PAKI in Telugu means Scavenger.

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Jinnah's heir claims Jinnah's house. Tough!
by Bodh Ramdeo on Aug 08, 2007 06:33 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Jinnah was a traitor, and his house should be torn down to make way for a park for the aggreived people of this nation who suffered so terribly from his treachery - his nefarious deal with the equally treacherous Brits to partition India to satisfy thier ego - if they can't keep it then they will break it up - and they made darned sure the peices never got put back together again to create huge, single, unified, powerful nation - and they've succeeded beyond their wildest dreams, with even a little help from Congress and it's leaders.

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RE:Jinnah's heir claims Jinnah's house. Tough!
by my message on Aug 08, 2007 07:09 PM  Permalink
It will be interesting if you read history and try to find out why Jinnah thought of a different country for Muslims.

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RE:Jinnah's heir claims Jinnah's house. Tough!
by faithfreedom on Aug 08, 2007 07:22 PM  Permalink
Jinnah thought- I agree it was a division driven by religion/ego & non acceptance to be under a majority hindu community
But pl understand the wadia's who chose to stay in india , even after thier father left for pakistan are to bear for the sins(sic).
moreover they have been law abiding / not relally in the limelight / and also having a business empire which fuels our economy
let us not be parochial to wadia's
To jinnah of course every body nurtures a grouse.
i hope you hav got the point.

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RE:Jinnah's heir claims Jinnah's house. Tough!
by faithfreedom on Aug 08, 2007 06:43 PM  Permalink
please read history - pertaiig to mMr. Jinnahs daughter- reveals a lot- you would stand corrected.
Wadia's were true citizens of inda , even if jinnah migrated to pak
rv anand

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RE:jinnah the kunna
by faithfreedom on Aug 08, 2007 06:44 PM  Permalink
so what?
lot a Advanis relatives still remain in pak - I guess

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by Surya Kanishka on Aug 08, 2007 07:02 PM  Permalink
What is their status now, relegated citizens or converted citizens ??

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by faithfreedom on Aug 08, 2007 07:25 PM  Permalink
donno for sure- I might have indulged in slander for having dragged Mr. Advai's name of all people.
But Im sure that we should not in a persecution mode to heirs of Jinnah who are in india as indians - very much like U and me

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Land of Sindh province belongs to Sindhis and Punjab to Sikhs
by Vikram on Aug 08, 2007 04:56 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Land of Sindh province belongs to Sindhis and Punjab to Sikhs --hand back our lands to us and we will think to give u the Jinnah house.

and also give back the occupied Kashmir to the Kashmiri Pandits and get out of kashmir .


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RE:Land of Sindh province belongs to Sindhis and Punjab to Sikhs
by Saggitarian on Aug 08, 2007 05:27 PM  Permalink
Land of Sindh province belongs to Sindhis and Punjab to Sikhs

@Vikram

Well said Vikram nothing wrong about it

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RE:Land of Sindh province belongs to Sindhis and Punjab to Sikhs
by praveen yadav on Aug 08, 2007 06:08 PM  Permalink
yahi karte karte budhe(60 years of Ajadi) ho gaye ab to jane do. ghar ke age kachara aj bhi Dalte ho bat karte ho desh kee.

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RE:Land of Sindh province belongs to Sindhis and Punjab to Sikhs
by ganesh shyam on Aug 08, 2007 05:12 PM  Permalink
jobless jokers....

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