You all are spreading absolutely wrong messages about Quran, Why don't you read quran and understand facts about Islam.
My friend half knowledge take you to the wrong path and make you in illusion. Plz read the quran and Hadith then take u r decision. I'm afraid that if you really read and understand the quran then surely you'll become Muslim. Coz Quran is sent by Almighty(Creator of sun,moon,earth,humanbeings,jinns,animals & everything)for all human beings(Muslims,Hindus,Christians & etc.)
RE:My Dear Friends,
by trikarn on Aug 05, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
really, then what the heck was he doing before that ? i mean hinduism predates you by atleast 1000 years and so is christianity, bcas u write something in a book, and make tall claioms does not make it the sole truth. for argument sake, if your allah is so great and created all religions why the heck he bothered to? he cud have saved us a lot of trouble by creating only islam/or may be you bigots are doing his work, by screwing all non islamic people.
RE:RE:My Dear Friends,
by qayoom hassan on Aug 05, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
MUSLIMS ARE NOT SCREWING ANYONE.YOU PEOPLE ARE DOING THAT JOB YURSELF BY FOLLOWING FALSEHOOD.GOD IS GREAT.
RE:RE:My Dear Friends,
by qayoom hassan on Aug 05, 2007 12:51 PM Permalink
TERRORISTS ARE THOSE WHO KILL INNOCENTS IN IRAQ,AFGHANISTAN,KASHMIR,PALESTINE,CHECHNIYA,INDIA AND OTHER PLACES.
RE:My Dear Friends,
by kalyan ram on Aug 05, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
why do we have to learn arabic and read quran?.......if you want us to read quran, you muslims translate quran in hindi, english , french, telugu, tamil ,kannada, assamese and give it to us.....no way of learning arabic and reading the most dirtiest languages in the world arabic, urdu.......if you can you translate them or if you think translating quran from arabic to english comes under blashpemy then shut up your mouth........
RE:RE:My Dear Friends,
by trikarn on Aug 05, 2007 12:33 PM Permalink
kalyan ram, why bother. what is there to read in a religion that was born in the wastes of arabia? and still worship the black stone known as kaaba and still claim that ALLAH IS FORMLESS?
RE:RE:RE:My Dear Friends,
by qayoom hassan on Aug 05, 2007 01:00 PM Permalink
IGNORANCE LEADS A PERSON TO HELL.THATS WHERE U ARE AND WILL BE IN FUTURE.
RE:JEWS WERE NEVER AT WAR WITH MOHAMMED!!!
by qayoom hassan on Aug 05, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
"THERE IS NO COMPULSION IN RELIGION"(HOLY QURAN)SO YOUR ALLEGATION IS BASELESS.GOD IS ONE AND MUSLIMS BELIEVE IN ONE TRUE GOD.WE DONT BELIEVE IN SHIV LINGAM , WHICH HAS MELTED DOWN AND NOW AC IS NEEDED TO SAVE IT.HINDUA KILLED BUDDHISTS IN INDIA LIKE DOGS AND THEN STILL EVEN TODAY DALITS HAVE NO RIGHTS.REJOICE IN YUR IGNORANCE AND BE HAPPY.MUSLIMS GAVE CIVILIZATION TO INDIA.WHATEVER INDIA HAS IS BECAUSE OF MUSLIMS AND LATER CHRISTIANS.
RE:RE:JEWS WERE NEVER AT WAR WITH MOHAMMED!!!
by Major Sassy on Aug 05, 2007 12:19 PM Permalink
Oh dear where do did you go to school; Lahori Madarass or NWFP; your igonarance is not shocking its hilarious.
RE:JEWS WERE NEVER AT WAR WITH MOHAMMED!!!
by Major Sassy on Aug 05, 2007 11:56 AM Permalink
Most religions dont force you to convert; you may or you may not at your choice.
In India people converted to Buddhism because they liked Gautams teachings; heck even the barbarian Mongols were civilized by Buddhism. However it left them naked to Islamic sword which is merciless and just kills.
This is a hungry sword; after it has killed all others then it turns within and kills its own members in the quest of "purity" like we see with Taliban. It is always in a blood letting mode.
RE:JEWS WERE NEVER AT WAR WITH MOHAMMED!!!
by ansari jamshed ahmed on Aug 05, 2007 12:08 PM Permalink
dear hatred spreader, muslims love their Prophets. they know the reality and will never look into crook matters that you have posted here. the belieg is based on evidence which is felt by heart. the greatest human soul on the earth was of Prophet Mohammed (peace ne upon him). If you want to know more about him, come to a muslim and ask. May allah bless you with divine thinking
RE:RE:JEWS WERE NEVER AT WAR WITH MOHAMMED!!!
by Major Sassy on Aug 05, 2007 12:18 PM Permalink
If they love their Prophet(s) I thought only one was allowed?
Anyway in that case they should have confidence to discuss their religion without foaming at mouth with others.
i have seen on this board that some people are always trying to divide between hindus and christians.thereby they are diverting their focus from topics of terrorism.people should become wise.they should not be diverted from their common focus.
Do you now understand how much you had been hurting Hindus,the most generous race in the world,generous at the cost of self-annihilation even.
It is bad to hurt anybody's feelings.But unluckily ,most of Muslims never cared.Your co-religionists destroyed Lord Budha's Statue,which was 2000 year old in Afganistan,much before Christianity or Islam came into being to salvage the souls on the day of judgement.If for nothing else,Lord's statue should have been preserved by you as s symbol of national heritage,because,1400 years back you were Buddhists or Hindus.You should not have dishonoured and disgraced your great great grand fathers.you should have been faithful to them.Man who cannot be faithful to his forefathers or religion of his forefather can not be expected to be faithful to his present countries and religion.you destoyed and desecrated thousands of idols,religious books of your Hindu forefathrs. My uncle(chachaji) was converted to Islam to save his life at the time of partition in 1947( he was being murdered along with his family) and stayed in Pakistan.His children must be staunch muslim now.You also got converted due to one compulsion or other or to save yourself from Jajiya Tax,because you or we all were not Guru Teg Bahadur,or his grand children who refused to convert to Islam,sacrificed their lives.
RE:BE SOFT AND POLITE TO OTHERS
by Auyoban on Aug 05, 2007 11:58 AM Permalink
Hi Ramesh,
Very much appreciate your civility in arguing, unlike many others on this board...
Going by your argument definitely we need to respect parents, fore fathers etc..
Fully agree with you, religous symbols and sentiments are not to played with. If I do respect my faith and belief, I will respect the others too...
However, what is confusing to my thoughts - did god send an idol of himself when he created man on this earth... Can it be my fore fathers are wrong... I need not be wrong too... Do we live generations of wrongs...
RE:BE SOFT AND POLITE TO OTHERS
by Major Sassy on Aug 05, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
God never sent a idol of himself; God never sent down anything; he does not need to he is here in all of us; read the Geeta for the distilled source of Dharma and its practice in everyday life.
RE:BE SOFT AND POLITE TO OTHERS
by Shamasundara Sharma on Aug 05, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
shoot this Pagal eagle american before it starts shitting every where!!
RE:RE:BE SOFT AND POLITE TO OTHERS
by Major Sassy on Aug 05, 2007 12:14 PM Permalink
Just like Hijaras expose their stuff to shame right people so do some folks show their foul mouth to bother the truth sayers.
RE:RE:BE SOFT AND POLITE TO OTHERS
by Major Sassy on Aug 05, 2007 12:14 PM Permalink
Why does God to be beyond his creation? That is your way of distancing yourself from him. Just like the essence of father and mother is in the child. God lives in all of us. We are all his manifestations. Including the evil ones.
The net sum of universe is God.
You are god I am god. Even Haneef is a god; only that he is misusing his God hood; just like Ravan.
RE:BE SOFT AND POLITE TO OTHERS
by Auyoban on Aug 05, 2007 12:19 PM Permalink
That is a bit hard to digest...
How can I be God, I do not control my life for next second....
How can a God die.... there are so many deaths this very second....
"Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures." [Bhagavad Gita 7:20]
RE:BE SOFT AND POLITE TO OTHERS
by JOTISH NAIR on Aug 05, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
parents creats childrean and definetly, the genes of the parents is found in the off spring..science have shown that. the same way god has created the universe and each and every matter including humans and non- living thing contain the essence of god... aham brahmasmi...means each and every matter in the universe has the Gods essence.
it's not fair to classify things and hate some and say its haram...good and bad is always there...but never cry aloud and preach wrong.
islam says alcohol is haram or sleeping with a stranger woman is haram or even dealing with interest on money is haram..but could any muslim tell that 100% of muslims follow this rule? or how many % follow this rules? very few..the modern world need modern laws...not the 7th century nomadic law.
RE:BE SOFT AND POLITE TO OTHERS
by Ramesh Anand on Aug 05, 2007 06:44 PM Permalink
Ayoban, yes,as per us every thing is extention of god.I donot think that all religions tell the same thing.Hindu religion(Vedas,Upinasads) say "..thus when a human being sees all the living beings in PARABRAHAMA,PURUSHOTAM PARMATAMAA(meaning God)and vice-versa(sees all pervading God only in all the creatures),how can he/she hate any one?He/She always sees his God everywhere,in every creature and creation,all the time and therefore bows before them(creation), respects them and serves them" Islam and Christianity does not command or advises its followers to see god in Kafars(So far muslims have not declared that Hindus of India are not kafars).Their religious books do not see even all human beings as equals.Infact Quran orders its followers not to befriend a Jews or a Christian and kill the kafirs wherever and whenever possible
You are spreading absolutely wrong messages about Quran, Why don't you read quran and ask you priest about Quran.
My friend half knowledge take you to the wrong path and make you in illusion. Plz read the quran and Hadith then take u r decision. I'm afraid that if you really read and understand the quran then surely you'll become Muslim. Coz Quran is sent by Almighty(Creator of sun,moon,earth,humanbeings,jinns,animals & everything)for all human beings(Muslims,Hindus,Christians & etc.)
RE:facts abt ISLAM and QURAAN
by samir khokhar on Aug 05, 2007 12:11 PM Permalink
u should teach some sense to ur brothers who are destoying their and others careers on name of islam.
RE:facts abt ISLAM and QURAAN
by Ramesh Anand on Aug 05, 2007 07:09 PM Permalink
It is not to criticise any book of religion,but it is what is said by Sayyad Modudi and Mohd Farukh Khan in their Quran in Hindi(I do not understand the purpose of Hindi quran,if what is written in it is as per arabic quran.These two are very famous and learned peopole on quran- sura3 ,ayaat 118 of this book says not to befriend anyone out of islam commnity.If so how can we live in peace.That is why you are witnessing such hostile and uncivilised comments.Same sor of order is passed in sura3,ayaat 28.and in sura 4,ayaat 144.Please read it.Ag6ya 9 of ayaat 23 enjoins the new muslims(my chacha jee in Pakistan)if our father and brother have not converted to islam do not have any connection with them and do not befriend them. The hindi quran does not directs not only not to have cordial relations with non-muslim,it directs them to give tortures,punishments and death to Hindus Christian Jews etc.See Sura 2,ayaat 161 which say 'wherever they meet,kill them.Ayaat 163 of the same sura says 'keep fighting with them till Moorti Pooja is abolished and till the islam overpowers them.In fact there are much more frightful orders against Hindus .In sura 6,ayaat 5 there is order of allah' after the holi month of Ramjaan,kill the Moorti Poojaks wherever you meet them,arrest them,suround them and lay in ambush for themSura 8,ayya5 6 also says the same.This probably will clear as to why people are behaving the way the have been behaving in their comments on this article.I do not consi
RE:facts abt ISLAM and QURAAN
by Major Sassy on Aug 05, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
I have read the Kuran and it is the most moronic peice of literature ever. Lord of the rings in greater in its phiolsphical content.
Can you tell me what it the phiolsphy behind Islam.
Behind Christanity is it Kindness and humanity what is behind Islam?
RE:RE:MOHAMMED IS THE WORST CRIMINAL IN THE HISTORY!!!
by Major Sassy on Aug 05, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
Jews were at war with Muslims? Muslims were Jews first converted to Islam at a point of sword stupid. Just like you would be Hindu before your ansetors decided to convert out of fear.
Jews were not at war; Mohammed was at war with the Jews one sided war.
As always you guys dont either know facts or understand logic. Only Koran
RE:MOHAMMED IS THE WORST CRIMINAL IN THE HISTORY!!!
by Auyoban on Aug 05, 2007 11:38 AM Permalink
False prophet seems to very well versed(sic) with Islamic history...
Are you aware of Abu Jahl....
Does the Malecha of Bhavisya Purana mean anything to you...
Brother, no point in slandering faith, it dear to each and everyone. The issue is terrorism - in any form, committed by anyone, religion does not matter, countries do not matter. It is crime against mankind.
"WE" must stop it and not inflame it. There are very strong powers that want this game to be continued at common man's expense. You and me fall into this trap....
RE:unity
by biru chanda on Aug 05, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
Hindus already came close and united by adopting christian culture and soon they will take religion too to be more united
RE:unity
by JOTISH NAIR on Aug 05, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
christianity is a billion times better than islam historically and as preached by their holy books. Jesus christ never asked missionaries to go for a conversion spree offering benefits. Hindus,jews,christians and sikh should unite against this religion spreading hatred against man-kind who happens to be non-muslims.
RE:unity
by khan mohd on Aug 05, 2007 12:08 PM Permalink
Good expression without true knowledge, christianity preaches Ahimsa beacuse they enter any country and occupied then killed peoples like somalies, cuban, african, iraqis, philipinos, afganis then finally they teach ahimsa for christainity. Hindus is secular because they killed sikhs in 1984, Asimsha christian in Orissa, innocent in Gujrat. Follower Islam is not civilised because they fought against Bristish rule and brought India free from British rule. thanks MNK
ISLMIC JIHAD FIRST INVADED EUROPE FROM 7-12TH CENTURY AD. MOORS & OTTOMANS DESTROYED SPAIN, FRANCE, BYZANTIUM, ROMANIA, HUNGARY, YUGOSLAVIA. CRUSADES WERE TO EXPEL THE JIHAD INVADERS FROM EUROPE AND TO RECAPTURE JERUSALEM CAPTURED BY JIHAD FORCES.
RE:RE:unity
by khan mohd on Aug 05, 2007 01:56 PM Permalink
islam never force anybody to convert but spread the message of Allah revealed to Prophet. It was command of Allah to Prophet to reach the message of His because Quran, the book of human being not for only Muslims. Whoever belive in Quran and Prophet they become a Muslim. these are ways happened everywhere when muslims try to spread message of Allah, some were opposed and tried to harm belivers. Belivers have the right to defend for the sake of Allah. If Muslim tried to invade Euopean countries, all states would have been muslim countries today. To be clear all misunderstanding, let us try to read Quran and Sunnah and understand first for the success life after date. thanks MNK
RE:unity
by samir khokhar on Aug 05, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
U R GIVING EXAMPLES OF HINDU AND CHRISTIAN TERROR BUT WHAT ABOUT ISLAMIC TERROR ?THEY R WORST
RE:unity
by khan mohd on Aug 05, 2007 01:45 PM Permalink
Islam never start terror but began to spread god,s words by prophet those who opposed and tortured to those people converted into Islam by themslves were only defended using sword. Prophet always forgive to every wrongdoer with him in Mecca. Today still happening to Muslims that Muslim themselves are trying to defend themselves from the enemy of Islam. Muslim always teach to other how to love, good or bad, haram and halal etc. Thanks MNK
RE:RE:unity
by JOTISH NAIR on Aug 05, 2007 12:31 PM Permalink
muslims also did this small job below... The massacres perpetuated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger than the Holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis; or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish and Portuguese.
RE:unity
by Mikkey Moouse on Aug 05, 2007 12:21 PM Permalink
ISLMIC JIHAD FIRST INVADED EUROPE FROM 7-12TH CENTURY AD. MOORS & OTTOMANS DESTROYED SPAIN, FRANCE, BYZANTIUM, ROMANIA, HUNGARY, YUGOSLAVIA. CRUSADES WERE TO EXPEL THE JIHAD INVADERS FROM EUROPE AND TO RECAPTURE JERISALME CAPTURED BY JIHAD FORCES.
RE:RE:unity
by JOTISH NAIR on Aug 05, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
you bruit rumours like europeans are converting islam...people now understand that wherever there is islam there is violence and suffering...no sane person will embrace islam...95% of the people got coverted to islam forcibly..the times have changed...many iranians have relocated to UK or canada and have embraced christianity..there are solid proofs...its not like the dirty mullah giving untrue lectures at the juma mosque..or like howling like a jackal 5 times a day.
RE:unity
by Major Sassy on Aug 05, 2007 11:58 AM Permalink
What were the Muslims doing in Spain? Come there to pray? Why did Muslims invade and capture Jerusalem?
And no one converts to Islam out of choice (except one or two) they do it only at the point of sword; and no western women are converting; its only a stupid propoganda by a stupid mullah for his stupid flock.
RE:unity
by JOTISH NAIR on Aug 05, 2007 12:26 PM Permalink
THE GUY WITH THE FAKE NAME OF HINDU INDIAN IS A DREADED FOLLOWER OF MUHAMMED..WHO HAD PREACHED IF U ARE IGNORANT ABOUT ANYTHING ABUSE...HERE HE'S TAKING OTHERS MOM AND ABUSING THE SAME...UNFORTUNATELY HE CANT BE CORRECTED NOR HIS CULT..HE'S A GENUINE MUSLIM..WHO'S IGNORANT AND DUMBFOUND...ABUSE AND KILL THATS HIS AND HIS RELIGIONS MOTTO..ONLY THEN THEY'LL ATTAIN 72 VIRGINS AT HEAVEN. HE'S A DEFINETLY A COWARD AS WELL BY COVERING HIMSELF WITH A HINDU NAME.
UNFORTUNATELY REDIFF DOESN'T SEE HIS COMMENTS AS ABUSE.
RE:RE:unity
by JOTISH NAIR on Aug 05, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
qayoom hassan you are dreaming ...what is history says is thus....
The Mohammedan conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. The Islamic historians and scholars have recorded with great glee and pride of the slaughters of Hindus, forced conversions, abduction of Hindu women and children to slave markets and the destruction of temples carried out by the warriors of Islam during 800 AD to 1700 AD. Millions of Hindus were converted to Islam by sword during this period
The massacres perpetuated by Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger than the Holocaust of the Jews by the Nazis; or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish and Portuguese.
the muslims as said above has perpetuated the biggest persecution of any religion..what right does you people have to blame the christians...
at least jesus christ was respected as a peace loving person..he didn't marry 23 times and kept 5 concubines..nor he abused and massacred the jews.he never raped a 6 yr old girl in the name of marriage...and he didn't offer heaven and 72 virgins in reward of killing people from other religion.
RE:RE:unity
by alert on Aug 05, 2007 12:10 PM Permalink
islam came much later christianity. the mohd terrorists who killed jews and other religion people including millions of hindus. Dont try to change the history. The islamic terrorists created problem in all russian countries and killed even recently 100s of children Islamic cult should be eradicated for the world to survive.
RE:RE:RE:unity
by sudhir on Aug 05, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
Porkistani qayoom. So which madrasa are you typing this message from.
FYI. Gandhi's son embraced Islam not because of its merit but to show rebellion against his father. And what happened to him. He drowned himself in liquor visited prositutes. But anyway he was better than u r prophet who was a child bonker paedoplile sicko.
RE:RE:RE:unity
by Major Sassy on Aug 05, 2007 12:01 PM Permalink
Listen the terrorists in Golden temple were not Sikhs; they were taking money from the people they were created to destroy i.e. Pakistan and Islamists.
Thats why they have no support and the Sikh LI takes great pride in cutting down the NLI like Gajar Mooli in Kashmir.
RE:RE:RE:unity
by JOTISH NAIR on Aug 05, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
yes hindus are cunning unlike preposterous muslims...pakistan was created for muslims...but u still live in india and abuse the 82% hindus...what a liberal life!
RE:unity
by alert on Aug 05, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
It was only a law and order problem created by muslim terrorists from pakistan thiefs who stole indian land and properties. Sikhs have understood that that is how the problem got solved.
RE:unity
by samir khokhar on Aug 05, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
qayoom hasan , i have not mentioned any thing about ur religion then why u r jumping in this?
