RE:RE:kafeel did what koran says...why cry ???
by raku on Aug 03, 2007 12:53 PM Permalink
man ..pls take care of yourself..i have given a complaint to police on your writeup. definetely they question rediff..rediff pls help police to catch idiots from the society.
RE:kafeel did what koran says...why cry ???
by Surya Kanishka on Aug 04, 2007 05:50 PM Permalink
Just bang your head where ever you want and make a complaint where you need. Loafer. who cares.
Kafeel was a misguided youth.. I feel sorry for him and his family.. Whatever he did, Its a very bad news for his parents at their old age.
Kafeel has lost his life for Jihad like many youth who loose their life due to addition to drugs, alcohol etc.. Only thing, his family could have saved him if they know he was on a wrong path..
RE:Please refrain from writing bad about K and his family..
by Sachin R.Suryawanshi on Aug 03, 2007 12:35 PM Permalink
You right Ranjith... I remember when I was in London, there are loads of Muslims clericks standing outside their Masjid, Madarssa who use to hold pamplets and was asking for appointments to transfer the knowledge about muslimism... few of my Muslim friends went there... I dont know exactly what there were upto... but this should be stopped if they are misguiding young youths... I dont have any complaints regarding the knowledge transfer about any community but I am against the misguiding things.
RE:Please refrain from writing bad about K and his family..
by xyz abc on Aug 03, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
Its the people like u, becoz of whom these things gets boost. In my opinion the only way to stop this is put a bullet in the head of these guys so that other think 100 times before thinking about this path.
RE:Please refrain from writing bad about K and his family..
by Amandeep Singh on Aug 03, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
Spoke like a true Indian. That should be the spirit.
RE:Please refrain from writing bad about K and his family..
by Jay Walker on Aug 03, 2007 12:34 PM Permalink
His Parents were members of SIMI, a radical muslim organization that wants to create Muslim states within India and regard Hindus and others as lesser humans who can only be saved if they embrace the "religion of peace". Again most Indians show thier naivete why they stupid things like "terrorists have no religion" when these low-lifes are fighting for only for thier religion directly inspired by thier religious text (with thier own intrepretation). Hatred of non-believers and blind faith in your own religion will only bring ruin to them and thier community as we see all over the world from Afghanistan to Iraq to Karachi to Kashmir
RE:Please refrain from writing bad about K and his family..
by SLVP on Aug 03, 2007 01:26 PM Permalink
very sorry for the family . suddenly 20 cr indian muslims will be viewed at par with hard core terrorists by the wetern world. jobs, education, immigration will be tougher at uk and usa. with 1 single act, kafils and sabeels have brought indian muslims at par with talibanis as viewed by western media. so the vicious negative cycle of oppression,unequality , less opportunities to educated muslim youth. This cant be a single isolated event. Indian muslim should take up this as a challenge to wipe out any support to extremism,either directly or indiarectly. Should lead the path of education, openness and joining mainstream. The time is definately running short for you. all the best.
RE:Shame on Haneef and his family also the media
by Abdul Fazal on Aug 03, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
Well said bhai. I am already converted to Hinduism. but, I am not sure which caste I belong to. I am searching for one. I advice all muslims to convert to Hinduism. Thats the only way muslims can survive
RE:RE:Shame on Haneef and his family also the media
by rajesh on Aug 03, 2007 01:07 PM Permalink
Abdul Bhai,
Nobody is asking you to convert to Hinduism. be a good Muslim, Thats enough to live peacefully in this country. India has welcomed people from all religions to come and live. but the proble is that they started to take undue advantage of the hosts after settling here... I am sure you know that Muslims are more safe in india than Pakistan, which was created for Muslims (there are more Muslims in India than Pakistan itself!!).. Think of the fact that Many Muslims have acheeved great positions and success in this country like Dr. Kalam, Sania Mirza, Dr. Zakir Hissain, Najma Heftulla.. many more. They all worked hard and without descrimination from the majority communites, they succeded.
RE:RE:Shame on Haneef and his family also the media
by A Singh on Aug 03, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
I am reminded of a story wherein a Professor of an Engineering College converted to Hinduism. Manes of the Professor and his college are being held back on purpose. This happened some 20 years back. Poor fellow had to reconvert to Islam, because nobody in Hindu community was ready to marry his kin. That Hindus hate Muslims is obvious from the blogs. Perhaps they have a reason to do it. But the vehemance with which they hate their own brotherhood is the reason for their plight. If only they had shown a bigger heart, half the Muslims in India could have converted to Hinduism.
RE:RE:RE:Shame on Haneef and his family also the media
by Kham Khan on Aug 03, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
If this story is true, the prof. made a mistake. First he should marry a (muslim) girl and then convert to Hinduism with famly. Alternately, amny like minded muslims should convert to Hinduism together and they can marry their children within that group. This will solve the problem for time being. It will take some time to become used to original Hindus. Eventually they will have to accept them.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Shame on Haneef and his family also the media
by A Singh on Aug 03, 2007 01:07 PM Permalink
The story is true. It was in the press. And I met the professor.
RE:RE:Shame on Haneef and his family also the media
by Nadeem Azmi on Aug 03, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
YOU WERE NEVER TRUE MUSLIM in first place, which I sure of
RE:Shame on Haneef and his family also the media
by israr ansari on Aug 03, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
Call Vanjara(Killer of Shahbuddin) from Gujrat to kill him.
Which parent will not be utterly devastated when their child dies? Added to this, the shocking revelation that he was involved in a terrorist act, and the other son is also a suspect? May God give the parents the strength to bear their excruciating agony. It is absolutely disgusting that so many Rediff users do not have any pity for the parents. Kafeel could have been anyone's child gone astray. The parents should not be blamed for the deliberate acts of their adult children.
RE:Poor parents
by Amandeep Singh on Aug 03, 2007 12:19 PM Permalink
Well said Miharika! It seems that many people have lost the sense of humanity blinded by their narrow and divisive nature.
The story on rediff is not about god or bad of any religion. It is a human interest story about old parents losing their young son.
May God save our country from such narrow minded individuals who are hell bent on creating divisions in the society.
RE:Poor parents
by Kamal Prabha on Aug 03, 2007 01:13 PM Permalink
Miharika, are u not aware of family values and definition of family for these people? There is nothing like "poor parents"for these people who openly propagate violence and claim that doing any work for their religion is the ultimate for them and say that those are the lucky parents who sacrifice their children for the sake of MUSLIM UMMAH! It was a wellknown fact in Bangalore as stated by the ir local Moulvi of the Mosque that when he found the entire family is propagating Tablighi Jamaat which is a confirmed Jihadi outfit quite aggressively, the Moulvi asked the family of this Dr Ahmed couple(Parents of Kafeel and Sabeel)not to come to that Mosque and they started going to a far off Mosque.As what is stated about this Jammat they believe in sacrificing everything for the sake of their Ummah as an order from GOD! Therefore they are not so much bothered about your sympathy.It is our goodness that we do this!
RE:Poor parents
by javaid shah on Aug 03, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
Actually there is not much diff between a terrorist and a guy who posts hate messages for other communities and religions. the only diff is a terriorst kills himself and other people as well where.
RE:Poor parents
by xyz abc on Aug 03, 2007 12:40 PM Permalink
Dear Miharika, I don't think, any kid in this world can go on a path like this without parent's knowledge. The bent for such activities come from parent's minds only.
RE:Kafeel Ahmed
by Miharika on Aug 03, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
Do you not have any pity for parents who have just lost their child, coupled with the agony of knowing he was a terrorist and the other son a suspect? Anyone's child can go astray, once they are adults you cannot control their acts, even if you bring up your children the best way, you still cannot say what an independent mind will do later, you can only hope and pray for the best. The worst tragedy is for a parent to lose a child, especially in these circumstances. May God give them the strength to carry on.
RE:Kafeel Ahmed
by on Aug 03, 2007 12:23 PM Permalink
Kafeel's father Dr Maqool is reported to have been a member of Jamaat e Islami and Tabligee Jamaat. No sympathy for such parents whose influence creates radical element who have no respect for Indian culture.
RE:RE:Kafeel Ahmed
by subhasish basumallick on Aug 03, 2007 01:06 PM Permalink
we all have forgoten the basic religion, which is humanity. All religions of the world teach that. But we are more intent in showing that one religion is better than the other. shame on us. even animals are better that us.
RE:RE:Kafeel Ahmed
by Srini on Aug 03, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
Miharika, Your feelings of compassion for Kafeel's parents is well appreciated and eliciting such feelings also reflects on the influence your parents had on you and the way they brought you up.
However, Kafeel himself didn't give a thought to the pain, suffering and ignominy his parents would undergo with such thoughtless act of his. Besides, he ventured to put lives of several other innocent individuals, in no way responsible for the acts of their government, to risk.
In contrast, there are several young defence personnel who lay their lives to protect our borders, several police personnel to maintain law and order.
Several youngsters loose their lives in accidents or due to other causes.
In all such instances either they have laid their lives for our good or for no wrong doing of theirs.
Its pretty traumitic for the parents and families of these younsters, they have to live with the loss.
Hundreds of such instances happen in our country, how many are coming forward to sympathise with such families?
its really sad to know that we cant afford to take care of the families of those brave soldiers who sacrifice their life fighting against terrorism. why dont politicans send one of their family members in military.
RE:Corruption and politicans are the root cause of all the problems in India
by jeena mathew on Aug 03, 2007 12:22 PM Permalink
The bloody Indian Law & Vote Bank politics won't allow us to get better. Otherwise Govt with the support of Intelligence agencies and RAW could have taken severe measures to control the spreading of terror doctrines and holy Jihad promotions. India is one of the most complicated countries in the world where there is a remote chance of good practice & Law implementation. May God save the screwd up nation. India really needs a good Kingdom rule or Good Military rule to clear up the system
