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Hindu groups are fast learning fanaticism from Minority groups. Ideally, no books/films should be banned. But...
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 30, 2007 09:52 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Hindu groups are fast learning fanaticism from Minority groups. Ideally, no books/films should be banned. But...



Ideally, no book should be banned. But its Indian Politicians who selectively give in to organised pressure, violence particularly from minorities which created this mess.



Even a world famos movie like "Da Vinci Code" was banned in many states even after Indian Supreme Court gave verdict for its showing.



One Movie theater was attacked in Hyderabad by Missionaries.



Many state Govts banned it to appease Xtian groups.



In states like Kerala, Missionary Groups worked below radar and stopped its showing.



The way Muslims react to anything remotely connected with Islam./Prophet is well know and needs no elaboration.



UNLESS POLITICIANS STOP PAMPERING MINORITIES, ITS SHIV SENAS WHO WILL GAIN FROM THESE INCIDENTS.

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RE:Hindu groups are fast learning fanaticism from Minority groups. Ideally, no books/films should be banned. But...
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 30, 2007 09:54 PM  Permalink


THANKFULLY WESTERN COUNTRIES TAKE STRONG POSITION. AND THUS THEY ARE RELATIVELY FREE. DA VINCI WAS A BIG HIT IN THE WEST.



HOWEVER IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THEIR REACTION IF THEY COME TO KNOW MANY INDIAN STATE GOVTS BANNED "DA VINCI CODE".

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RE:Hindu groups are fast learning fanaticism from Minority groups. Ideally, no books/films should be banned. But...
by eclipse on May 01, 2007 04:59 AM  Permalink
many indian states banning da vinci code is just one more proof that the population of christans is rising in India. Unless the hindu social system is reformed, more and more people are bound to get alianated and convert to other religions.

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Are we really this insecure?
by Aditya on Apr 30, 2007 09:39 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

As a person of Maratha descent even I am amazed that people are so up in arms about this whole issue. I too am a big fan of the Shivaji fables that were narrated to me repeatedly by my parents and relatives so that I would have a little bit of Maratha pride in me as I grew up American. I have also visited most of the forts all over Maharashtra and to this day remain in awe of all that I have seen.
However as an adult who ascribes to objectivism, I am also aware that a lot of historical characters have goods and bads to them and that the stories I loved as a child were after all fables.
This however does not change the fact that Shivaji is and will remain one of the single most exciting characters of Indian history.


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RE:Are we really this insecure?
by Aditya on May 01, 2007 02:04 AM  Permalink
Why is it that everything is a "war on Hinduism" to you?

There is nothing in this book that attacks hinduism, it merely highlight the real life story of a prolific historic character.

Also, you keep ranting about Christians, at least they have the maturity to investigate historical aspects more objectively. Nor do they riot for silly things.

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RE:RE:RE:Are we really this insecure?
by Tamil Arasan on May 01, 2007 07:02 AM  Permalink
Why can't this RSS fanatic Pradip parekh speak the truth for once? Sankarachriar of kanchi was humilated , abused & jailed by none other than brahmin protector jayalalitha jayaram. She even accused him of selling drugs. This is a fact that can be verified any time any where. But Pradip says that the arrest was due to kirastani pressure. I might be a rationalist but I can't stand RSS hypocracy & lies ! This lie is ample evidence of the extent to which the RSS liars will stoop to. To add insult to injury jayalalitha beat up & jailed the RSS/Vhp supporters who demonstrated out side the Chennai High court.What does this guy have to xay for that? So the minorities & dalits are the scape goats for the brahmins. Do what ever you want & blame it on the minorities or dalits! No wonder these guys & their parties are being treated like out castes by the dalits and BC's now!

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Silver and play are spreading anti-Shivaji propaganda
by Cnu on Apr 30, 2007 09:12 PM  Permalink 

Silver and Play are 2 katuve, who are spreading ant-Shivaji propaganda in this forum. Those two b******s and people who support that book should understand that same thing goes to Satenic verses and lajja, The book written on Shivaji has no proofs for the content where as S.V and Lajja are based in real life incidents

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Don't ban the book!
by Indatri Mitra on Apr 30, 2007 08:54 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

No book should be banned. Let the book sell. If people do not like it, they will not buy it. Instead, allow all books that have been banned till date in India. First and foremost allow Satanic Verses to sell. Alas! Shiv sena will rather ask about banning the shivaji book, rather than lifting restriction on Satanic Verses.

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RE:Don't ban the book!
by Cnu on Apr 30, 2007 09:14 PM  Permalink
the book is not banned u idiot. The publishers are not selling it. go and get the book from amazon or ebay.

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Distributors cold towards book on Shivaji
by Sanjay Baxi on Apr 30, 2007 08:08 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

If I am not allowed to read the book, how I will know if it is good or bad? Whoever opposes this is certainly scared of something!!!!!!

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RE:Distributors cold towards book on Shivaji
by Ghost Rider on Apr 30, 2007 08:49 PM  Permalink
The same should be applicable to Taslima Nasreen's LAJJA and Salman Rushdie's works...

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Not a good book.
by ramesh v on Apr 30, 2007 08:05 PM  Permalink 

I happen to go thru the book in EBAY,not fully thou.My initial comments are as follows.

1)The authour has gone ahead with preconcived notions.

2)No proof of his resesearch has been given

3)No reference books have been quoted.

4)Not sure of the Authour`s credinility.

5)What made the Authur choose this subject..Definitely not by going thru one line in a 4th STD text book :-(

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Dont let anyone stop you from reading what you want.
by Sunil Chandrashekharan on Apr 30, 2007 07:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Buy the book from www.amazon.com
They deliver internationally
Here is the link http://www.amazon.com/Shivaji-Hindu-King-Islamic-India/dp/0195141261

Please dont let any one to dictate to you what you should read or not read.

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RE:Dont let anyone stop you from reading what you want.
by Rocky Kapoor on Apr 30, 2007 07:23 PM  Permalink
Why should I allow you to dictact what I should do? Why don't you write your real name and are using your co-worker's id? Have you read book called "WHY I AM NOT MUSLIM?" As per one my friend told me its available in most public library in USA?

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RE:Dont let anyone stop you from reading what you want.
by Silver on Apr 30, 2007 07:32 PM  Permalink
There are lot of books regarding, Why I convert from Hindu to Muslim, but we dont want to talk on this lets see the truth what that guy has written.

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RE:Dont let anyone stop you from reading what you want.
by play on Apr 30, 2007 07:41 PM  Permalink
exactly man, these people who opposes this are from the sangh. Infact the Truth is beautifully portrayed in that book. Making Shivaji a hero and Aurangazeb a vilan all these years the Sangh Parivar was giving mis information to indians. Now the Truth has finally emerged. Bravo.

The people who talk about respecting the Supreme court judgement about hanging of afazal are the same people who are opposing the judgemnt of the supreme court when it comes to this book about shivaji and when it is against shivaji than no need to respect the law of the land and supreme court.

All double standards by the Sangh - Wake up know the truth and seek the truth.

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RE:Dont let anyone stop you from reading what you want.
by Silver on Apr 30, 2007 07:55 PM  Permalink
Thats right!




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RE:RE:Dont let anyone stop you from reading what you want.
by Ghost Rider on Apr 30, 2007 08:45 PM  Permalink
So Aurangzeb is a hero?
Next in line of heroes are Mushraff, Osama, Afzal Md......
Hai mera bharat mahan!

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RE:Dont let anyone stop you from reading what you want.
by Ghost Rider on Apr 30, 2007 09:43 PM  Permalink
To "play"

Then Narendra Modi, George Bush, Singhal, Togadia, etc are all heroes.

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by Ghost Rider on Apr 30, 2007 09:44 PM  Permalink
and we need more such heroes to get rid of scums like you.

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RE:Dont let anyone stop you from reading what you want.
by Silver on Apr 30, 2007 07:33 PM  Permalink
Thanks buddy,

Lets findout the truth. We are fed-up reading our history book from 1st Std to 10th. (In Bombay)

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Want to buy this book
by Silver on Apr 30, 2007 07:08 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

how to get it?

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RE:Want to buy this book
by kapil parashar on Apr 30, 2007 07:13 PM  Permalink
purchase on line on ebay

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RE:Want to buy this book
by Ghost Rider on Apr 30, 2007 08:47 PM  Permalink
Both Jaganniwas and Shivaji along with Mohammed the prophet....in gutter

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by Silver on Apr 30, 2007 07:29 PM  Permalink
OK thanks

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RE:Want to buy this book
by Cnu on Apr 30, 2007 09:07 PM  Permalink
Abey to to paida hi gutter me hua tha sale Silver.B*****d why dont u talk of lifting ban on Satanic verses and lazza in india, u a**hole.

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RE:Want to buy this book
by Jaganniwas Iyer on Apr 30, 2007 07:12 PM  Permalink
In a gutter.
Jaganniwas

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