RE:It is goondagiri of Shiv Sena.
by Raju Puducode on May 04, 2007 04:10 AM Permalink
It is good to discuss the good & bad in our country. But the urgent need is to wake up & defend our institutions like temples built over thousands of years by the sages & saints of India. They are under mortal attack by secularists. HELP preserve them by signing the petition:
upa goverment can ban da vinci code to keep happy christains but cant ban the book on shivaji to keep happy marathis.so my friends u yourself decide who is ruling our country?
RE:shivaji
by arul george on May 01, 2007 04:54 PM Permalink
Did u not read the article 'Dum-Dum', its Bombay high court who banned the book not the govt.
Ist so disheartening that most of the people are just unaware of their history. There are only a very few heroes of whom we should be proud of and Shivaji is one of them. Others are Ashoka, Prithviraj and Ranapratap.
RE:Know your heroes . SHIVAJI THE GR8
by myself on May 01, 2007 03:27 PM Permalink
abey deen bandhu Amar Desai what about vivekanand,swami dayanand,sardar patel, rana sanga, laxmibai,chanderswhekhar azad, raja ram mohan rai, lala lajpat rai etc.
It is sad that only one political party is proclaming all the rights for Shiva ji's history. I cannot accept the term as local hero for Shivaji. Its shame that due to politics and polictical parties the great hero is not getting his share of credit. This man can be put as a National Hero very easily if you write off todays political set up.
RE:Great India
by Ghost Rider on May 01, 2007 01:53 PM Permalink
The Cong has already divided India into several fractions....Muslims, SC, ST, OBC, Minority......
People crying(English media ,NDTV,TOI, so called activists like Patwardhan ) for freedom of expression are Hippocratic . We see lot of %u201CIntellectuals%u201D want the ban to be lifted. But the same people were in hiding during Danish Cartoon Controversy. We were hearing from media that it hearts sentiments . But why then different approach this time ? Then why we have different rules for different people .They are selective and act more or less like a political party . There response depends on who is on the other side. This kind of double standards should not be tolerated. In the end the writer himself has said he is not trying to give any historic facts but wants to mention some gossip
RE:Freedom of expression (for selected few%u2026)
by Ghost Rider on May 01, 2007 01:55 PM Permalink
Any TOM, DICK and HARRY can have a shot of hinduism. It is time for Hindus to get charged up like the muslims do everytime to get their demands fulfilled. Hindu heroes like Shivaji, Modi, Thakrey...are the need of the time! Most dangerous are the "secular" hindus...they are bigger traitors and scoundrels than the Muslims or christians..
RE:Freedom of expression (for selected few%u2026)
by jitendra kumar on May 01, 2007 02:27 PM Permalink
Hindus are chargeless, they cant be excited,charged, they are dead peoples, they are greedy, dont help their fellow existence, they just think of themselves, they always think how i will be safe by blaming others, their tolerance limit is very low, they are virtual non-existent.
My dear friend eclipse, First of all, go and read about Shivaji. Let me put some facts in front of you: 1) He was the emperor who started from zero and set up his own kingdom and called it ramrajya. He used to be called as "Shree" and I hope you know that as per Hindu mythology shree stands for what. 2) He was the FIRST EMPEROR to fight against MUGALS (Aurangzeb). Andyou%u2019re your knowledge Mugals never defeated him in battle, so used other means to kill him. 3) Shivaji%u2019s kingdom was the first in India at that time, where Hindus and Muslims (very few at that time) lived peacefully. It was not like Aurangzeb%u2019s kingdom where Hindus were forcefully converted to Muslims. You may not be aware that in CBSE books (by Mr Arujun Singh%u2019s recommendation - Aurangzeb is called protector of art and culture -total bull shit) he is promoted as good person to bank Muslim vote. But it does not talk about how Babri Masjid-Krishna Janma pinjra (a cell), Somnath temple, and other few very important temples were destroyed by Mugals specially Aurangzeb. 4) Do you have any idea how shivaji was killed and what happened after that. 5) Aurangzeb's daughter was in love with Shivaji's son - Sambhaji Raje. Sambhaji was then caught by Aurangzeb's force. He was asked to convert to Muslim and then marry Auranzeb's daughter to which he refused. This is how he was tortured, all hair from his body were removed, then nail of every finger was removed, including mustache and then body skin too. When he did not succumbed to Aurangzeb's torture, his hands and legs were cut and then he was castrated, and his penis was cut. Finally his eyes and ears were cut. The guy who was responsible for conducting these torture, could bear the pain he was causing Sambhaji just for the sake of conversion of Hindu king to Muslim, asked Sambhaji to surrender and accept Islam, Sambhaji refused, so his tongue was cut. Finally the torturing guy pity on Sambhaji and when Sambhaji was alone in cell, killed him out of mercy. 6) The kingdom created by Shivaji, helped Marathas(specially Peshwas) to extend themselves till Madhya Pradesh, Jhansi, Up, Bihar (This kingdom came under banner called as peshwais). They concurred and ruled half of India. 7) Marathas were the only warriors who fought against East India company in battle of panipat, I hope you know that.
Shivaji was start of anger against islam, and rise of todays India. So better respect the leader rather then talking like and an Muslim Auranzebian. Now do you think, he is local hero? What you said, that his name is found only in Maharashtra (Local), that%u2019s true because, all political leaders, promote local warriors of their respective state, because of their vote bank. Take simple example: Sindiaya family of MP are descendents of Shindes%u2019 from Marathas, how many of you know about Lokmanya Tilak, nana saheb (all Marathas) but not from maharashtra (for your information these were 1857 revolution heroes, I think the only hero, that a person like you know is Mangal Pandey and that%u2019s too because of bollywood.) Another case of Subhash Chandra Bose. Since he was against congress, how many monuments you have named after him%u2026? Very few. So do you mean to say even Late honorably Subhash Chandra Bose was local hero%u2026 Shame on you. You are a real eclipse %u2013 GRAHAN.
RE:Specially for eclipse, shivaji is a national hero or not...
by Ritesh Gupta on May 01, 2007 03:35 PM Permalink
TRUE INDIA. WELL DONE. I LIKE UR SPRIT. G8 TO HEAR THESE THINGS.
RE:Specially for eclipse, shivaji is a national hero or not...
by Indianbhai on May 01, 2007 01:39 PM Permalink
Just Now I finished reading about Shivaji and come to know that %u2026%u2026. 1. He was terrorist at that time. 2. It is wrong to say he had started from Zero, He and his father had Jagirs and money from adilshah kingdom. He betrayed his father and adilsha. Use their wealth to fulfill his won dream of becoming king. 3. He never fought any war openly, He always attack from back. 4. Maratha have lost Paninipat war with moguls. 5. You have to accept he is not atoll popular outside Maharashtra.
RE:Specially for eclipse, shivaji is a national hero or not...
by Tony Briganza on Jan 22, 2008 07:30 AM Permalink
Ignorance is bliss. Mr. Indianbahi, where ignorance and falsehood is concerned, you are at the top of the list.
RE:RE:Specially for eclipse, shivaji is a national hero or not...
by Ritesh Gupta on May 01, 2007 03:29 PM Permalink
this indianbhai doenot know any thing. How come he can use these language like terrorist. how come u call one freedom fighter as terroirist. u should go out side of india. u r not deserv for rediif. Who the hell u r ?
RE:Specially for eclipse, shivaji is a national hero or not...
by rahul singh on May 01, 2007 01:41 PM Permalink
Dear, the readers would appreciate if you quote history and not your dirty fantasies. also there was no war at panipat b/w marathas and East India Company I guess Ignorance is bliss!!!!!
The people who talk about respecting the Supreme court judgement about hanging of afazal are the same people who are opposing the judgemnt of the supreme court when it comes to this book about shivaji and when it is against shivaji than no need to respect the law of the land and supreme court.
All double standards by the Sangh - Wake up know the truth and seek the truth.
