BSP brand of political alignment seems a perfect antidote to OBC , BabuBajrangi and minority appeasement policies. The general categories aligning with Dalits can help heal the wounds of past caste suppression. I just hope Mayawati is a lot more pragmatic in providing solutions for common people and is less corrupt than others. ( can't expect her to be clean and be in power - so being corrupt is a given for politics )
Mayawati has many criminal cases oending against her and she siphoned off hundreds of crores of rupees in taj corridor case. She is corrupt to the core. UP will go down and down if Mayawati becomes CM.
RE:The rise and rise of BSP and steep fall of UP
by Sudhakar Hiramani on Apr 30, 2007 06:40 PM Permalink
hamama may sab nange.after long time and lot of hard work cadre based party has been built by bahujans for the development of common masses in the ciuntry ,so dont see only negative things see positive side also,congress ruled up for 40years but did not do any developmental works bjp ruled for 5years and still ruling by proxy and intends to create hatred in society.let us give chance to behnji and then analysis can be done.
RE:The rise and rise of BSP and steep fall of UP
by eclipse on Apr 26, 2007 09:16 AM Permalink
so are you going to stop her from becomig CM ? Let the people of UP decide it. Anyways the people of UP are saying no to canada ticket. hahaha
BJP is still stuck with its one point "Anti-muslim" agenda. They bring the "Muslim" into each and everything. After 6 years of BJP rule in the centre the muslims started thinking of BJP as an alternative and then suddenly they do Gujarat. They could have been more happy having the muslims on their side. Anyways the anti-muslim card is not playing very well in UP. BSp fielded 61 muslim candidates and guess its reaping the benifit. In Indian its really stupid to color your party saffron or green. Be neutral and fool everyone. :-)
RE:BJP is still not understanding....
by armando on Apr 26, 2007 09:24 AM Permalink
i think what you are saying is quite right. If BJP is a party which is not coloured, it will rule India for years to come since people are fed up with the Congress. In my state of Goa where elections are due anytime now, Congress would have been completely wiped out for the corruption and ineptitude. However, since BJP has got that "colour", there is every possibility that the Congress will win again. I really hope that BJP leaders realise their folly. But then, they may not consider it to be a folly. If they truly believe that all others are inferior, they will not be in a position to jettison their communal leanings.
India is a country which has proven secular credentials and it is because Hinduism is tolerant to the core. Trying to play with that will never bring long term benefits. Cheers to India and to the Indians who are so forward thinking.
RE:BJP is still not understanding....
by r patil on Apr 27, 2007 08:07 AM Permalink
Dear armando BJP has both saffor and green in its flag.Any way if cristains and muslims vote en mass blindly yo congress no matter how curropt they are or no matter how anti-national and how anti-hindu they are their is no harm why hindus should not vote for their religion sake after all their greveances should be counted or no? when hindus are being incresingly cornered by missinories and islamic terrorist who have clear agenda of converting hindu which they openly admit what option do they have.
RE:BJP is still not understanding....
by Sudhakar Hiramani on Apr 30, 2007 06:48 PM Permalink
your greviance is that people are converting,question is who is converting when worst forms of atrocities are commited on bahujans know one will protest,forget about action,when they convert the so called hindu fanatics will raise hue and cry .it is not your problem let bahujans decide for themselves.
Why can't 'so called upper caste' be depended to vote( which the article rightly claims that they can't be)? The NSSO data show 'upper' caste constitutes 30 to 38 percent probably on the higher side. Only 20 percent of them probably vote. If they all vote as vote bank, their candidates can win a lot more seats.
the article is quite good. One interesting thing I observed though was that the author seems quite unaware of the north indian culture etc.. An example is the way he names people: C. Chaman Singh is probably chaudhary chaman singh His mother C Nathiya might be Chaudhrani Nathiya and so on.
Using initials instead of the first name is probably more of a south indian custom. No one in north india writes their name in such a way.
RE:interestingly....
by gaurav shrivastav on Apr 26, 2007 10:49 AM Permalink
that was just an observation man! no offense to either north indians or south indians. just that since the author, Mr A. Ganesh Nadar is probably a tamilian, and not very aware of north indian culture, his writings sort of superimposed the south indian traditions on the north indian mileu
Change is in the air in the country%u2019s most populous state. Just as Bihar had dethroned the seemingly invincible Lalu Prasad Yadav, chances are that the ongoing polls would upset electoral equations in UP. And a major gainer could be the BJP.
There are many reasons to believe so. The Sangh Parivar is working overtime to ensure the success of its political arm, the BJP, which has been working out the caste arithmetic rather well.
Riding on the recent successes in Punjab, Uttarakhand, Delhi and several local elections in Maharashtra, the BJP seems to have regained its lost composure and rhythm. Take the caste combinations. The BJP has not one but two aces up its sleeve this time.
First and foremost, Kalyan Singh is back in the saffron camp. Kalyan, the original face of the Ram Mandir agitation, belongs to the Lodh community which, along with the Kurmis, accounts for 18% of the voting population.
His absence had played a crucial role in swinging backward votes away from the BJP in 2002, when he allied with the BSP. If he had been there, the BJP wouldn%u2019t have lost about 66 seats. This time, the BJP is projecting Kalyan as the chief ministerial candidate. This is likely to have a big impact.
Second, the BJP has Sonelal Patel and his party Apna Dal in its fold. Mr Patel is the undisputed leader of the Kurmi community, the backward caste that accounts for 10% of the state%u2019s population. Mr Patel was being wooed by every big political party, but the BJP outwitted the others. Though the BJP had Vinay Katiyar, who belongs to the Kurmi community, his ultra Hindutva image had been a deterrent.
Mr Patel had come close to becoming UP chief minister when Kanshi Ram was heading the BSP in the late 1980s. But Mayawati took the centre stage, and Mr Patel was expelled in 1994. A year later he formed Apna Dal, and one four seats in the subsequent elections. Winning him over is a master stroke by the BJP, many believe.
Mr Patel%u2019s joining the BJP coincides with Beni Prasad Verma, another important Kurmi leader, walking out on Mulayam Singh Yadav. He is expected damage the SP%u2019s chances. He has a strong presence in Tarai region, that went to polls on Monday. The BJP has also roped in another strong Kurmi leader, Nitish Kumar. The Bihar chief minister has been touring the Allahabad region.
In the last elections the BJP had pocketed 20.12% votes, whereas the SP had a 24% share. To SP%u2019s share, the Apna Dal contributed 2.98%, while Kalyan Singh had a 2.84% share. This time both these leaders are firmly behind the BJP.
Besides, the BJP can bank on the upper castes, who account for about 29% of voters. The party has some strong leaders in Kalraj Mishra and Lalaji Tondon who represent the Brahminical face of the BJP. In the last leg of electioneering it plans to parade Atal Bihari Vajpayee as well.
While the BJP has succeeded in roping in more allies, the SP seems to be losing its Muslim base. Muslim votes, constituting nearly 18% of the total, are likely to be divided among the SP, the Congress and, to a lesser extent, the BSP.
And, above all, the RSS is firmly behind the BJP. The reunification of the Parivar has already yielded some results for the BJP, in a dozen of municipal bodies.
RE:The rise and rise of the BJP
by armando on Apr 26, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
BJP will not win India by dividing India. Because, if anyone thinks of dividing India, they do not deserve to rule India.
RE:The rise and rise of the BJP
by manish rastogi on Apr 26, 2007 10:29 AM Permalink
you do not seem to know anything about UP or castism that is why you are commenting on BJP. You come to UP then you will know that congress is the bggest dividing factor here. the day congress has come down in UP from that day onwards communal riots had stopped.They were the one who initiated and supported riots. there muslim leader will go to muslim areas to speak against hindus and hindu leader will go to hindu areas to speak against muslims. they are the most corrupted party. It is Rajiv Gandhi who started Ram mandir issue by getting the gates of the temple open at ayodhya and not the BJP. I know because i am from UP and i ahve seen it all.
Dalits are rising, and the indicatoin is their friction with the brahmins in education, with kshatriyas in politics. Soon, there will be friction in business too.
Learn, unite and agitate, Only thing they should remember is to agitate against their situation and not against people. That is how they can manauover their rise.
RE:Quota and empowerment!
by armando on Apr 26, 2007 09:29 AM Permalink
it is always a good thing to fight the evil rather than the evil doers. I like your suggestion that they should agitate against the situation rather than the people.
Congrats for such noble thinking. And cheers to the Dalits who deserve upliftment in all sectors.
the exit poll survey gives thumbing road to the other parties to rally behind BSP. now BSP is having every say in UP.This year it will come out with smaller seats but it will apply mulayam formula and will get majority. Mayavati is going to be the Indias super star, Next Prime Minister.
RE:bsp is winning edge
by on Apr 26, 2007 05:27 PM Permalink
The main problem for the development of India is "BIMARU" states.Unless they are developed, India can not be said at least as "developing".Basically northern India lacks culture like Southern part of India. THE FUTURE OF INDIA LIES SOUTH OF VINDHYAS..
