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Those interested should try to find out more on Abdul Lateef, a notorious gangster from Ahmedabad
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 24, 2007 10:41 PM  Permalink 

Those interested should try to find out more on Abdul Lateef, a notorious gangster from Ahmedabad.

Who was this guy. What were his activities. How he became a big hero for local Muslims who won simulteneously from some 18-20 corporation seats which is a world record.

One of the primary reason for growth of rightwing Hindus in Gujarat was people were sick of these criminals who were heroes of Local Muslims.

He was killed in an encounter in 1990s.

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RE:Iam appalled to read this article
by Amit Roy on Apr 24, 2007 10:35 PM  Permalink
Dear Zakir,
Please dont be so appalled to read this article since you and your ilk belong to a country which is still known for the genocide of innocent people in Bangladesh and where voilence and coups is by the hour.It is therefore no surprise that some of the worlds most dangerous terrorists and criminals are found in Pakistan.Remember Daniel Pearl? The only language you people understand is a sound kick on the ass which India has done time and again in all the wars with you.Therefore Bark Zakir Bark!!!!!!!

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by Zakir Peshawari on Apr 24, 2007 10:44 PM  Permalink
Mr Amit Roy, it is hilarious and at the same time really appalling to see you evade my points and as ususal trying to resort to bad words and culture less attitude, Please moderate your language, as we all know, kids could be reading all these and i request you to keep the decency and decorum of the board
Allah Bless,
regards,
Zakir

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by RAGHAVENDRA S GAONKAR on Apr 24, 2007 11:03 PM  Permalink
Excellent Mr.Zakir.

Where were your sentiments towards ur INDIAN brothers and sisters when your pakistanis hijacked Indian Airlines plane and got released your person a terrorist, were sleeping at that time or praying please kill all people on that airplane. You want such kind of terrorist to be alive and create havock in INDIA.
I think you have amnesia, you have forgotten the pakistani police officers who ransacked a media center recently and your talking about DEMOCRATIC nation, shame on you.
Try to clear the dirt under your feet then try to look at others what they have.
You are talking about assasination, what about 100's of people killed by a bomb blast in mumbai, there are proof saying your people have manned the attack.
Have you forgotten the coward act of pakistanis to infiltrate through kargil, do you mind just imagining how many people were murdered by pakistanis during the cold blooded war without any reason and your talking about peace, can you give a rational explanation for this, do you really mind first teaching your people to love and respect their neighbours.

Now stop using your sentimental feelings, your each sentence clearly says how much cowardness is filled in your mind, one statement you say very sorry next statement you are bashing on people, is this what you have learnt.

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by rational thought on Apr 24, 2007 11:05 PM  Permalink
May Lord Krishna give some sense to our neighbours, and once they realize the fanaticism embeded in their religion and take corrective measure by becoming moderate, we;ll all live in peace.

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RE:Iam appalled to read this article
by Tapan Sinha on Apr 24, 2007 11:28 PM  Permalink
NO ONE HAS BLAMED PAKISTAN FOR THE ASSASSINATION OF MK GANDHI OR INDIRA GANDHI. IT IS YOUR MIND SET. M K GANDHI WAS ASSINATED WITH INDIRECT NEHRU'S CONCENT FOR HIS NARROW INTEREST. IF HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ASSASSINATED ALONG WITH NEHRU BEFORE INDIPENDENCE, THERE WOULD NOT HAVE PARTITION ON RELIGION. BASICALLY, M A JINNAH WAS TRUE SECULAR, WE RESPECT HIM. GANDHI AND NEHRU STAMPED HIM COMMUNAL. WE HATE GANDHI AND NEHRU. YOU SHOULD CHANGE YOUR NARROW MIND SET. WE RESPECT ALL FAITS, EVEN CELEBRATE, BUT MUSLIMS ARE TAUGHT TO DISRESOECT OTHER FAITHS, AND CALLED THEM AS KAFIR. IF YOU CAN SLIT THE THROAT OF ALL MAULVIS OF TORLD, THERE WILL BE ONLY PEACE.

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RE:RE:Iam appalled to read this article
by Rationalist on Apr 24, 2007 11:57 PM  Permalink
Well said at once.

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RE:Iam appalled to read this article
by Zakir Peshawari on Apr 24, 2007 10:41 PM  Permalink
Dear friends, iam really dumbstruck at your responses for my post. And i though that we are all educated here. Just point out a single flaw in my reasoning. Iam condoning violence everywhere but to mr Bhasker C i have to remind you that britain considers pakistan more of an ally than India, It is just a fact that India is going out of its way in projecting Pakistan as the villain but then the western world can understand this cause without concrete proof nothing is real,also add to the fact that India has its own share of problems more than any nation in the world.
Now as ususal, go ahead and accuse that the father of india gandi was killed by pakistan and also the indiri Gandi family was entirely assasinated by Pakistani ¨¨so called¨¨ terrorists.Infact, pakistan is an united country with 80% of the country in peace, except for a few fights between Shia and Sunni sects but then even in peaceful Europe, you have the catalan/basque problem(Spain),IRA( Ireland) Beider Mienhoff8 Germany).........
India is 90%strife ridden with religionism, regionalism, corruption, poverty, world´s highest prostitution, India is also the major provider for AIDS...
Iam not for a moment insulting my Indian friends but i just want you guys to realise the importance of a combined effort and Prayers to get rid of these banes..
Allah be with you all
God Bless..
regards,
Zakir

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by Sameer Tamhane on Apr 24, 2007 10:59 PM  Permalink
Zakir Fakir, you know the main problems with u pakis, you want to always compare with India. You have exported terrorism thru ISI and infiltration and you will only know the language of war. India knows you smuggled nuclear and missile technologies and are not capable to devise ur own tech. World knows by now epicenter of terrorism is Pak. Dawood, AL quaida, trainign camps anti India and anti US environment is all created in your country. Your Nuclear Hoax will not remain for long as you don%u2019t have technological edge. Remember you are testing India's patience. We do have our problems but remember every Indian Hindu-Muslim-Christian-Sikh stands united to crush you pakis. Also keep in mind Indian Armed forces have enough muslims to crush you pakis.
Insha Allah

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RE:Iam appalled to read this article
by vishwas joshi on Apr 24, 2007 10:33 PM  Permalink
Atleast India is better than your country (Pakistan)- Outof 60 years of Independence your country is run by Military for 40 years. Your Military make soaps, washing powder, corn flakes even they have Banks. I think you know the reality much better. I am also living in London and just yesterday saw all this things in a documentary on BBC; made by your own journalist. So sought out your own matter first and then poke ur nose in others........

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fake encounters
by shakeel haidar on Apr 24, 2007 10:20 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

In India a section of people is thriving on the principles of hatred. This disease has engulfed the majority section of society and hence calling of names to each other.
In India, there are several institutions like which are held in high regard. Unfortunately these institutions are not worthy of respect because they are directly or indirectly sowing the seeds of hatred.
There is nothing called encounters. It is the supari taken by policemen on behalf of criminals/politicians to get rid of their opposition knowing that there is nobody to question their patriotism.
The three officers should be charged for murder and dealt with like other criminals or even worse because they play with the emotions of the common man. The general man believes what the law enforcing agencu says but just have a look at what the law enforcing agency does.
Hats off to the media.
MSH

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RE:fake encounters
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 24, 2007 10:25 PM  Permalink

You are saying as if this person was a Bharat-Ratna! There were innumerable cases against him lodged by 3 DIFFERENT STATE GOVERNMENTS INCLUDING ONE CONGRESS GOVT.

CHarges were placed for his anti-National activities, sedition, extortion.

So much sympathy for a 5 star Criminal. Why? Because he was a Muslim?

How many terror attacks Gujarat police stopped in last 7 years?

Was Gujarat used as a conduit for import of illegal arms and ammunitions by ISI and Islamist groups or not?


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RE:RE:fake encounters
by Shakeel Haidar on Apr 25, 2007 12:26 AM  Permalink
Dear I think you should get a Bharat Ratna for spreading venom and terrorising society.

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RE:fake encounters
by Jazba Junoon on Apr 24, 2007 10:38 PM  Permalink
There is no doubt that Indian police which mostly compromise of hindus support hindu militant during riots I have seen this while I was living in India during Mumbai riots.

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RE:fake encounters
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 24, 2007 10:43 PM  Permalink

oh yeah! And how the riot starts? Almost in every case, its started by a fanatic Muslim, and then the Muslim society in general comes to his help.

Remember how Mumbai riot started? When a Hindu family was burnt alive by a fanatic Muslim mob.

Why they did that in a place which is 1000 miles from Ayodhya?

What will happen if Hindus start behaving the same way as Muslims?

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RE:RE:fake encounters
by Jazba Junoon on Apr 24, 2007 10:55 PM  Permalink
Riots started after supporters of extremist hindu organisation called BJP-RSS-Bajrang Dal and Shiv sena broke the mosque in UP for your kind information

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3 IPS OFFICERS ARRESTED ON FAKE ENCOUNTER
by Tapan Sinha on Apr 24, 2007 09:58 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

EVERY DAY PEOPLE ARE KILLED ON FAKE ENCOUNTER. NOTHING HAPPENS. IT IS NORMAL AND FRUITS OF TREACHERY IN OUR FREEDOM. THEN WHY IN THIS CASE, TO GET POLITICAL MILEAGE BY DE-STABILISING THE COUNTRY.

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RE:3 IPS OFFICERS ARRESTED ON FAKE ENCOUNTER
by celestin rajan on Apr 24, 2007 10:30 PM  Permalink
The noble officers would never be disowned, be he a constable or an IG. But those misusing power and neglecting duty should be cornered for the nation building sake.

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RE:3 IPS OFFICERS ARRESTED ON FAKE ENCOUNTER
by shakeel haidar on Apr 24, 2007 10:29 PM  Permalink
Perhaps you are not aware of the fact that any person from Bangladesh can enter India at any point of time by simply paying Rs. 100/- to the BSF guards. Infiltration of Bangladeshis in India is due to the corruption prevalent in the BSF. Perhaps a better remedy would be to increase their salaries.

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RE:3 IPS OFFICERS ARRESTED ON FAKE ENCOUNTER
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 24, 2007 10:37 PM  Permalink

On the contrary, Bangladeshi Muslims settled in bordering areas thro' political patronage of CPIM, COngress help them.

As usual you will not condemn these acts of your co-religionists.

Make no mistake, even hardcore CPIM supporters know this. And its just a matter of time even CPIM, Cong are forced to take action against them.

If that fails, Hindu society will close ranks and meet them on the ground.

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RE:3 IPS OFFICERS ARRESTED ON FAKE ENCOUNTER
by Shakeel Haidar on Apr 24, 2007 10:52 PM  Permalink
Hujjate bangal.

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RE:RE:3 IPS OFFICERS ARRESTED ON FAKE ENCOUNTER
by Shakeel Haidar on Apr 25, 2007 12:28 AM  Permalink
You are not in a stable state of mind to accept the fact prevalent

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BJP IS BUSY THROWING DIRT AT OTHER BUT FORGETS THAT ITS HAND IS IN DIRT
by mota on Apr 24, 2007 09:55 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

modi ,muna bajarangi,the passport scandle by MP from gujrat ,BJP had the maximum MP for the money for asking question scandle in parliment ,one mor MP is suspected to be involved in human trafking....but still they keep their head high.JUST SHAMELESS POLITICS

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RE:BJP IS BUSY THROWING DIRT AT OTHER BUT FORGETS THAT ITS HAND IS IN DIRT
by Tapan Sinha on Apr 24, 2007 10:11 PM  Permalink
all your allegation are normal. human trafficing is not new, a congress culture, nehruvian culture, nidhari culture. one shoult look with anarrow interest.

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RE:BJP IS BUSY THROWING DIRT AT OTHER BUT FORGETS THAT ITS HAND IS IN DIRT
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 24, 2007 10:08 PM  Permalink

Do you find shame when India's National Song Vande-Matarm is disowned for Muslim vote?

Do you find shame when Afzal, indicted and given capital punishment by 3 Indian courts is NOT hanged for Muslim vote?

Do you find shame when a State Govt passes a resolution in a state assembly to release terror leader Madani?

Do you find shame when 400,000 Kashmiris driven out from their ancestral homeland?
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STAND BEFORE THE MIRROR. IF YOU DON:T HAVE SHAME WHY OTHERS WILL HAVE FOR CRIME WHICH ARE MINISCULE TO WHAT ARE BEING DONE ISLAMO-FACIST PSUEDOS?

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RE:BJP IS BUSY THROWING DIRT AT OTHER BUT FORGETS THAT ITS HAND IS IN DIRT
by felix nicholas on Apr 24, 2007 10:56 PM  Permalink
did you find shame when our foreign escorted a company of jailed militants to kandahar?

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RE:BJP IS BUSY THROWING DIRT AT OTHER BUT FORGETS THAT ITS HAND IS IN DIRT
by muzzammil suleman hodekar on Apr 24, 2007 10:28 PM  Permalink
those political party,who talk against muslims should remember that more than 50 percent of indian economy depends on muslims of india.

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RE:BJP IS BUSY THROWING DIRT AT OTHER BUT FORGETS THAT ITS HAND IS IN DIRT
by suresh singh on Apr 24, 2007 10:35 PM  Permalink
sapnaa dekhaa kya bhai?

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RE:BJP IS BUSY THROWING DIRT AT OTHER BUT FORGETS THAT ITS HAND IS IN DIRT
by Rationalist on Apr 25, 2007 12:03 AM  Permalink
IS THAT UR FANTASY?

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While Terrorists lodged in Jail get a feast at tax-payer's money, those Kashmiris driven out langish in tents of Jammu, Delhi and elsewhere.
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 24, 2007 09:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

In Indian Psuedo secular world, terrorists enjoy greater human rights than the victims.

In Kashmir, its proven from Govt record that Govt spends per capita more on terrorists than those hapless Kashmiri displaced.

While Terrorists lodged in Jail get a feast at tax-payer's money, those Kashmiris driven out langish in tents of Jammu, Delhi and elsewhere.

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RE:While Terrorists lodged in Jail get a feast at tax-payer's money, those Kashmiris driven out langish in tents of Jammu, Delhi and elsewhere.
by Rationalist on Apr 25, 2007 12:11 AM  Permalink
Our polititians are very smart in this. They use such crisis to milk money & they never would want to solve them.Why should they do when it is fetching them dividends what if at cost of lives of innocent people who pay them tax for loosing their lives? In doing this all the political parties are same.

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RE:While Terrorists lodged in Jail get a feast at tax-payer's money, those Kashmiris driven out langish in tents of Jammu, Delhi and elsewhere.
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 24, 2007 09:50 PM  Permalink
*langish --> languish

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Hai Guys common Blame ISI & China for All
by Suresh Kumar on Apr 24, 2007 09:21 PM  Permalink 

Well, now court found that an encounter was fake one, only one found, we had 100's of encounters every year , god knows abt the reality of it.
Recently one famous muumbai police officer suspended from his office for taking bribe & contacting planned encounter to kill poeple(I forget that police office name).
Couple of years back in Delhi even public witnessed such a encounter & issue raise up, as usual it was closed again. (that time the reason was ISI send guys to kill Advani - Infact that time BJP was ruling).
Now this time they told that guy came to kill Narendra Modi & encounter done to finish the matter. Forget abt such things guys, almost all days we have lockup deaths & encounters in India one area or other, it is not a big issue, a routine news thtas all.
Now wait for the tomorrow comedy.
BJP will tell there is ISI hand in this matter.
Few poeple will tell there is China involved in this matter.
Ofcourse congress will coem & say we save justice for minorities.
All r making a fun & benefit out of it for them.

Dont forget, even we can tell there is ISI on this issue. bcz that is the easy way to close any undisclosable matter in our country. letu s do the same now also.
Infact the very sad point is it was contacted by IPS police officers, none seems to be muslims, tehn how come ISI here. still we can tell as usal ISI to fool our indian public.
Guys out there just think what is happening or happened in our country. How the bearuecrats misusing their power.
End it is Bharat madhakee Jai------

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I have to go. Let us unite together & make India a strong nation.
by hi on Apr 24, 2007 08:16 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I have to go. Let us unite together & make India a strong nation. Forget differences, understand each other better. Don't fall prey eyes of foreigners. Understand who is good for India, who is bad for India based on their deeds, not based on others cloth, religion.
Understand incidents & its meaning & why it has happend on what situation, how to avoid them in future. To make some sense, I need to put all the actions, I have to act different roles, as we are multi-cultural.

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