Our religion [hinduism] and nation forbids castes. No where in vedas caste is mentioned. A human is a brahmin / sudra not by birth but by the way of life he leads. Ravana is son of a sage but he is a sudra by his deeds. Vishwamitra is a king by birth but he is a brahmin by way of life. Valmiki is a sudra [robber] by birth but a brahmin by his way of life. He wrote ramayan.
So please understand that OBC / SC-ST IS A MYTH. KUDOS TO SUPREME COURT!
RE:Caste is a myth and unconstitutional - Politicians please understand
by Vinay Gupta on Apr 23, 2007 04:51 PM Permalink
Bhai Ravi, u r 100% right but logic wouldnot work with those who are blinded by selfish thoughts. The problem is not cast system. Infact people are using cast for bargaining and those who are enemy of this country are using castism to destroy Hindu dhrama.
but please remember the SC has also said it would examine the plea for refrering the matter to a constitution bench. if such reference is allowed, what decision the larger bench would take is not taken. i think all rejoicing is premature. we must wait and watch at least for a few weeks.
Seeing the comments of OBC category people I have become sure that our political parties have succeeded in divide & rule policy. Very cleverly these netas have divide our nation based on Castes n we the stupid guys are unable to understand their intentions. This is not the matter of Upper caste & Lower Caste. What ever brahmins did in their past was wrong but quotas are no different also equally incorrect. Injustice is injustice no matter is done with whom....a lower caste guy or an upper caste. Reservations has divided our society and we foolish people are still fighting. If they really want the upliftment of the society than every one should be given equal chance without any quota with pure competetion. And if govt. want to help Lower Caste.....they can help them financially because its the matter of upliftment of poor but not a particular caste. And poors are avilable even in Brahmins. Many villagers one can find living below poverty line and they are Brahmins. So.....where the hell JUSTICE is......????????
80% of people with > 1800 monthly consumption are upper castes....only 10% in the lowest income group are upper caste. The actual population of upper caste is 35%.
We keep doing this and we will have caste wars and blood...
RE:OPEN dedicated IITs & IIMs for OBC, SC & ST
by shivendra singh on Apr 23, 2007 04:55 PM Permalink
u r right anustup But they will not get any job ,only goverment of india will recruit them haha
RE:OPEN dedicated IITs & IIMs for OBC, SC & ST
by Meer Ali on Apr 23, 2007 04:53 PM Permalink
caste and creed system to be remove.help to poor. thats all. god has given the brain to all human beings. let all use it and comeup .
RE:OPEN dedicated IITs & IIMs for OBC, SC & ST
by vijay baskar on Apr 23, 2007 04:46 PM Permalink
they will never get reputed and even TOP company staff buses wont pass by that route
RE:OPEN dedicated IITs & IIMs for OBC, SC & ST
by RAHUL SHARMA on Apr 23, 2007 04:47 PM Permalink
why do not we open for dedicatedIITs&IIMS for General category people only.
RE:OPEN dedicated IITs & IIMs for OBC, SC & ST
by serial on Apr 23, 2007 04:52 PM Permalink
when these IIT AIIMS and IIM will die because of these discremination . private sector colleges will be recongnized as next IIT AIIMS manipal and other colleges are on the way.
so last 50 years history and hard work will go to drain in these reputed colleges.
RE:OPEN dedicated IITs & IIMs for OBC, SC & ST
by JA on Apr 23, 2007 04:46 PM Permalink
who would recruit them in their companies...at least i'll not :D
RE:OPEN dedicated IITs & IIMs for OBC, SC & ST
by gaurav kulkarni on Apr 23, 2007 04:48 PM Permalink
Not very far from becoming a reality...our politicians can go to any extent to secure there cheap motivess......
I guess the judges in the supreme court are clever. They dont say it is wrong to give reservations, instead they try to cacel reservations by asking for who constitutes backward class, interesting.
I agree with the Apex Court decision. The merited one will be affected. On the higher level of education it is ones talent that matters. So if the reservation policy comes, it will really affect the talented ones. So I think it is a pure nonsense. It is ok if the Government wants to take Bharat back to the 20th century stage.
thx 2 indian judiciary for such a wonderful decison. d future of country is only in hands of our judiciary if our country keeps on producing politicians like Mr. Arjun Singh
Excellent. Hope Sonia, Arjun Singh and coy understands. It is a shame the way they are begging the SC. Wasting SC's valuable time in politics. Supreme Court will never aggree to some thing without a basis. There is none for OBC reservation as of now. Minus the creamy layer it would at best be 5% and not 27%. There should be no Quota for OBC. If at all there can be Quota for financially poor, of whichever caste or religion.
RE:RE:SC on OBC
by Meer Ali on Apr 23, 2007 04:50 PM Permalink
it is intresting that since the reservation started the son becme doctor and his son became doctor again his son collector and agian his son becam engineer .all on reservation basis. aisa kab tak chalega. Reservation ke naam pe janter manter.
Great verdict by the SC. This is a tight slap on the face of Arjun singh. It is time for india to move ahead and this verdict shows the way. Since our economy is becoming so competitive, it is evident that very field jobs and education should be made competitive too. In 50 years if the government thinks that there are still OBC and SCST prevail (which is true) the certainly this is not the right policy or the opportunity is enjoyed by some wrong people.
I agree there are backward class in India, but the cream of the policy never reach them. So the government should think of some other policy for their betterment. HOwever there are a large number of people who got the benifit from this kind of reservations and they are no longer backward, except their title which is used for getting those extra benifit. SC has shown the way. Government will always care abt vote bank but if india has to go ahead then make the field more competitive.
