RE:Secular?
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 21, 2007 12:18 PM Permalink
you seems to have given a clean chit to BJP. Opportunist, not a terrible word. Every ambitious guy is opportunist.
Re: RE:Secular?
by R ponnabalam on Mar 12, 2018 03:17 PM Permalink
In India we observe that everything against the National interest of unity and welfare of the people gets a clean chit.India has 15 lakhs crores unrecovered bank loans, and 2.7 lakh crores of loan written off in the last four and half years. The wealth accumulation scene is that in 1930s >Top 1% earners captured 21% of total income. In the early 1980s that dropped to 6% income for top 1%.That is during Govt. controlled economy The income share of India’s top 1% rose from approximately 6% in 1982 -1983 to above 10% a decade later and then to 15% in 2000 and further still around by 23% by 2014.This is all during Economic Liberalisation.We call the loot of Public wealth in favour of the Rich 1% as Economic liberalization and GDP growth.The best step in Economic liberalization is that our economicsdom had never found out the ways to recover banks Loans.Someone said recently citing reason"Close the madarasas"But ourGovts. had been giving salary to teachers in madarasas;then think of haj subsidy,Iftar party,Development of Hindi ; what is that Pakista's official language written in Devnagri script.Who will think that that money goes to development of any language leave Hindi also!Then the ex, V.P told Where do we stand on the ladder of equity? This is a question that citizens of the republic can ask the state after 70 years of legislating welfare laws and adjudicating measures to deliver social justice.""The ground reality is dismal," he(Ham
RE:Secular?
by hiral joshi on Apr 23, 2007 06:51 AM Permalink
No not as per constitution of India. If your madarassas are teaching you that RSS, Bajarangdal are terrorist organisation that doesnt make them one. Constitution of India needs to recognise them as terror outfits as they recognised SIMI.
Re: Secular?
by R ponnabalam on Mar 12, 2018 03:22 PM Permalink
Governments . of India,Pakistan's official language oriented and divide and rule oriented by having given undue number of Govt. of Industries willingly to Karnataka at the cost of states like tamilnadu and Kerala (but failing to give them water from The Ganges knowing well that they are obliged not to offend the riparian rights of down stream states like Tamilnadu and now doing everything against the Riparian rights of Tamilnadu.If riparian water rights of the state is adjusted against the ground water of individual farmers that makes that farmers pay for the failure of Karnatak and Govt. of India 's failure to get water from The Ganges as the Public Sector Industries had been given from Delhi R.Ponnabalam
Sonia has not written any unwanted things in here letter. Why the hell this fuss. Urdu originated in India and one of the scheduled language of our contitution. Is it ok if she write bengali, kannada, assami etc any other language except? Is it wrong to ask for vote in election in such a clean manner? All the fuss crteated by RSS and BJP minded communcal people. It bullshit.
Its appealing people religiously. Its against Secularism.
Also, speaking about Urdu in UP is going to rise Communal tempetarure, because historically Pakistan movement was started and nurtured in UP and Urdu was their main demand.
Those who are for Urdu were supposed to go to Pakistan.
What is next? reservation for Urdu medium students in IIT/IIMs, Schools, Colleges of higher studies?
Yes, Urdu is an Indian laguage, BUT IT WAS SPOKEN BY MUSLIM ELITE, NOT EVEN BY RURAL MUSLIMS.
There is no reason to bring back the Language which once divided the country.
RE:RE:First Look: Sonia Gandhi's Urdu letter to UP Muslims
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
Why dont you remove this language from Bollywood. I know your people are prised this langauge in front of our muslim friend. But you hate this language in back. You should know that it is official language of Kashmir. People still do their offical work in Kashir, and as far as hindi is concernt it is bit difficult, coz there was so many words come from Sanskrit, which is very difficult language, I am not against any language.
RE:First Look: Sonia Gandhi's Urdu letter to UP Muslims
by Silver on Apr 22, 2007 08:00 PM Permalink
Abe tere se urdu ke bare main kiya bahes kare, tujhe to hindi bhi sahi se nahi aati.
Re: RE:First Look: Sonia Gandhi's Urdu letter to UP Muslims
by R ponnabalam on Mar 12, 2018 03:31 PM Permalink
The Invader Mughals are not Indians;Urdu as the internet articles say is a Mughal court developed language.On 14th march 1888 in Meerut Sir Syed Khan had spoken "The English have conquered India, and all of us along with it. And just as we made the country obedient and our slave, so the English have done with us."Does it not mean that Urdu is ----.Pl.Note the word" this country" in Sir Syed Khan's address .He is fair and honest he didn't say our country R.Ponnambalam
In fact Ashok Desai, noted COmmentetor recently wrote that Muslims in India should start writing Urdu in Devnagri Script.
In 2007, when everybody is working hard to raise their lot thro' education, demand for Urdu by Muslims will put them at disadvantage. We have 1001 problem, and nobody really cares about Urdu.
If a Bengali living in Delhi can start reading.writing in Hindi/English, why it makes Muslims different?
BY INSISTING ON URDU, MUSLIMS WANT MORE PROLIFERATION OF THIS LANGUAGE, USE THAT AS AN EMPLOYMENT OPPURTUNITY.
Worst form of communal politics based on language.
RE:[object]
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 12:21 PM Permalink
Dost,
Hum log Employment ke bhoke nahi, Aur hamin Urdu employment ki zaroorat bhi.
Hum log yaan employer ban ke rahte hain, na ke employee, tum log naukri ke liye dakhkha khate ho, See Azeem premji, how many hindu employees are working under it.
Kuch samjah main bhi aaya ya phir bangali main samjhawo
RE:WHY INDIAN CONGRESS PARTY IS USING INDIAN NATION FLAG AND INDIAN NATINAL TRI COLOUR IN PARTY FLAGE/ SIMBILE IT IS AGAINT TO INDIAN CONSUTUTION, BUT NO ONE ASKING ABOUT THIS BIG MISTAK ? ( save INDIAN Consututution)
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 21, 2007 11:58 AM Permalink
Its not national flag. Yes, it uses same tri-color, but instead of Ashoka Chakra, it uses a Charkha (Spinning Wheel).
At least that's it should be. Picture is not readable in this scanned image.
RE:WHY INDIAN CONGRESS PARTY IS USING INDIAN NATION FLAG AND INDIAN NATINAL TRI COLOUR IN PARTY FLAGE/ SIMBILE IT IS AGAINT TO INDIAN CONSUTUTION, BUT NO ONE ASKING ABOUT THIS BIG MISTAK ? ( save INDIAN Consututution)
by Anniyan on Apr 21, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
yah..by the time of independence and even now if you enter some villages, they usually say it as a Indian flag as well as Congress flag....they consider both to be same...poor illiterate innocent peoples make these people living..I think these concepts has been scened in some film...as a hero would say...you people don't know which is the national flag and Congress flag even after 50 yrs of independence....May be if the younger generation gets atleast literate, this can be understood...
Did Nehru ever arraiv in Deobond, wearing in Skull Cap? NEVER. DEOBOND IS JIHAD CENTRAL, SPIRITUAL HEAD OF TALIBANS, WAHABISM.
Or Congress appeasement thro Shah Banu, Vande-Mataram, Afzal, Muslim reservation, Surrender Kashmir, Mumbai 711, Sachar, Banerjee Committee, Muslim head count in Army?
ANSWER TO ALL THESE IS BIG NO.
Its this Muslim appeasement, which has made BJP main force in Indian Politics.
AND NOW WITH ISLAMIC TERRORISM SPREADING ALL OVER INDIA, BJP HAS BECOME EVEN MORE IMPORTANT IN INDIAN POLITICS.
RE:Question should be asked, why Nehru didn't have to surrender Islamic fundamentalists the way present day COngress doing.
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 12:25 PM Permalink
Haan Deoband se hi Jihad start hoa tha jis ke wajah se aaj Hindusan Azad hai...
RE:Question should be asked, why Nehru didn't have to surrender Islamic fundamentalists the way present day COngress doing.
by Bhaskar Chattopadhyay on Apr 21, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
Silver Bhai: Yu SIMI terrorist hai keya? Deobond ko Support kaar raha hai?
Careful man. These days, Indian agencies are hunting down SIMI terrorists. And never go out of Deobond even by mistake.
Mrs.Sonia Gandhi its better you learn first our National Language, Urdu is not our national language, trying to attract Parvez Mushraf???? Smart Girl. But ur kind information even Parvez Mushraf also dont know urdu.
RE:These politicians do anything and everyting for their chair.
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
But one day it will become the National Langauge of India, like were before 1947. In Kashmir it is official langauge.
RE:RE:These politicians do anything and everyting for their chair.
by Anniyan on Apr 21, 2007 12:32 PM Permalink
it will become a world language after the globe is drenched by water due to increasing global warming, resulting in melting of icebergs in Antartica and Artic regions...then it is ur world enjoy
RE:These politicians do anything and everyting for their chair.
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 12:02 PM Permalink
Ye to main janta hoon tumhe kitne Hindu/Urdu aati hai. Tum to yaar bade dogle ho. aur rahi Dreaming ki baat, to suno, "We dare to dream and care to achive".
RE:These politicians do anything and everyting for their chair.
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 12:38 PM Permalink
Why you cant beat bangladesh they are less then 1 million. It means you cant defeat 1 muslim with 100 hindu. the ration of 1:100 hahaha!!!
why you cant defeat Pakistan they are just 15 million
why cant you people not fight with 20 Million Muslim Minority in India, you did not have to go anywhere we are here only.
RE:These politicians do anything and everyting for their chair.
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 01:07 PM Permalink
Bhai, Indian main to pahle hamin nuke karo phir India ke bahar dekho,
You dont have guts to do that thats what taking israel's name. and see we dont hate israilies and christian that we hate you people. since both that relion are very similar to our relion but you are kaafir, who denies the god
RE:These politicians do anything and everyting for their chair.
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 11:41 AM Permalink
So why you saying its parvez mushraf's lanauge, I think you should banned bolywood coz they are using this language for fool pople like you.
Ban Javed Akhtar, and Hemish Rashimiya.... and Amithab bachchan too, coz he knows urdu,
RE:letter in urdu ?
by Anniyan on Apr 21, 2007 12:33 PM Permalink
she will read , write, speak and above all this...she will eat, walk, bath, wear and do whatever she likes
Ahmed Patel, inner coterie of Sonia is doing these.
COngress is doing these for last many years - infinite Muslim appeasement. But since Shahbanu, and now with proliferation of Media - people are knowing more on these. And the real feedback is coming out in the open.
its again election time. one letter in urdu for muslims nothing else...but see the remarks of hindus.. disgusting. no body can save this country. Credit goes to BJP VHP RSS ABVP for such hatred.
RE:no benefits only blame
by Anniyan on Apr 21, 2007 11:26 AM Permalink
dai vennai Silver...aap why nee English la vimarsika maataiyada..podalanga purpy mera dund
RE:RE:no benefits only blame
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 11:28 AM Permalink
abe saale, mujhe bangali nahi aati, aur hindu sab ko aati hai, tu yaar tu bangali ho ga, ya sadela, southindian
RE:no benefits only blame
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
Arey yaar, God ko gali mat do, jagdra hum log kar rahe ho, main ne is liye God, likha ke wo sab ka malik hai, chaye tum Ishwar kaho, chaye christain God, ya main Allah likho.
Agar tum main zara si bhi himmat ye to ye kisi muslim bhai ke saame bol kar dekho, wo tumari zaban kinch kar tumhe hamesha ke liye goonga bana de ga. shayad ye kaam koi Hindu bhi kare, agar us ke dil main God ka koi khaof wo
RE:no benefits only blame
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
I am writing in Hindu man, not urdu, If I write in Urdu, ur fathe will also not understand.
Try learn Hindu first then come here. You saying you love India but see dont understand Hindi, how you love India.
abe bangali, tum logo din bhar gaye hai, ras gulle kha kha ke. Lagta hai tumhe be "rest" dena pade ga, jaisa Ganguly ko diay BCCI ne
RE:no benefits only blame
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 11:19 AM Permalink
Keep Bhaskar Chattopadhyay, Hum log bhi dua karte hain ke tumara khawab zaroor pura ho, jab bhi nind se jagho. Humain bata dena,
Hindustan main hameshan minority ne hukomat ki, 1000 year ruled by Muslims (A minority only 5% do you belive this). Fater that Christain 10% or so. ab dkeho president kyon hai aur prim minister kyon?
tum log saale 55 saal bhi India ko rule nahi kar sake. may bhi aur 10-15 aise hi chale ga, us ke baat Ye Hindustan ko hamine hi rule karna pade, arey yaar hum log tak gaye hai 1000 saal kam nahi hotye, arey kuch nahi to 100 saal ki tum log is govt. ko chalao baad main hum log to idhar hi, kahin ja thodi rahe hain.
See we ruled India 1000 year but we never take any amount of money or gold or dimond from here. It was called soone ki chidya before christain invade this country and you people help them (Maharashtrain, Maratha, Panjabi and other hindu states).
Aur rahi sahi kasar tum logo ne nikaal di, gaple kar ke.....
oh! Silver is a mozo then! Why not use your actual name, instead of hiding under psuedo identity?
Forget 1000 years of Muslim rule. It was not 1000 years, probably 400 years. That too it was by Invaders, who forcibly converted your forefathers.
Muslims were always challenged, starting from Rajputs, to Sikhs to Marathas and many regional players like Vijaynagara empire.
WHY YOU SUPPORT MUSLIM RULERS WHO CAME FROM OUTSIDE, AND FORCEFULLY CONVERTED YOUR FOREFATHERS, INSTEAD OF SYMPATHISING INDIGENEOUS INDIANS WHO UNDERWENT HUGE MISERY AT THEIR HANDS?
RE:[object]
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 11:37 AM Permalink
I m Muslim and Indian, I am not hiding my identity, I m saying proudly. I am an Indian Muslim. Ya muslim been always challenged but proved themsalves as ruler. You must know Indian Hisotry, when Mohammad bin kaasim come India and why he came, try to search goolge and read history books, he did not came India by his wish. He had been called by Rajput raja. who had fed-up with sindh thier ruler. He came defead Sindh ruler, made that raja to governer and goes back. And he in 700 century. After that Mahmood Gaznawi came to destroy the Hindu Evil, coz they were not treating thier own hindu brother as hindu, treating like Dog.
Women have no rights, they could not reach home safely when they came out.
Sati was popular that time, there was no "Insaaniyat" at time, Muslim came "Sab ko sidhe kar diya" aur wohi haalat hindustan ke hai, shayad phir kisi Mohmood wo Ayaz ki zaroorat hai.
RE:no benefits only blame
by Anniyan on Apr 21, 2007 12:39 PM Permalink
but you people keep women far away as they are equal to brutals..and they has no right...what if an actress wear a swim suit..you people liked...but when a player wear a sorts...you appose it...what a culture a damid....the sati was taught by muslims to kill Hindu themselves
RE:no benefits only blame
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 21, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
you are a good joker. I appreciate your humour. Hindus are going through a phase of reformation and they are a tolerant people befitting the modern times and the values it requires. Muslims should worry about basic reforms in Islam. Guys like Kalam should be the model for Indian Muslims, not Imam Bukhari or syed shahabuddin. One can only wish you well.
RE:[object]
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 11:59 AM Permalink
Haan tumari nazar main hindustan ke saare muslmaan mujrim hai, and they remain terroriest untill they didnt proved themselves right!!! and Incase of Hindu they are very good untill they not proved themselves
The solution from the hanging sword of Islam on India is very simple: Hindutva.
Pre-Eminent Indian Novelist Sarat Chadra Chatterjee , wrote in 1920s seeing futility of Gandhi's Muslim appeasement in the form of Khilafat Movement:
"Hindu Muslim Problem will be solved in a day, when Hindus become united by destroying their caste."
"Hindus have been trying to reconcile with Muslims for last 100 years and that is treated as Hindu-weakness. I would propose that Hindus stop this, and let Muslims take lead in Hindu-Muslim reconciliation for next 100 Years."
This is Hindutva. Only a United Hindu society can take on this growing menace of Islamists in India.
RE:The solution from the hanging sword of Islam on India is very simple: Hindutva
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
Tum log saale 1920 main ye roho ge kabhi 2007 main nahi aa sakte
RE:The solution from the hanging sword of Islam on India is very simple: Hindutva
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 21, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
Chilver, Sarat Chandra you will not know. Your kids and grandsons will repeat his name daily hundred times.
RE:The solution from the hanging sword of Islam on India is very simple: Hindutva
by Silver on Apr 21, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
And what will your kids and grandsons repeat, my name??
RE:The solution from the hanging sword of Islam on India is very simple: Hindutva
by mohd smile on Apr 21, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
hey ISS chaatu ko le ke jao..be...paagal ho gaya hai..Its hardly matter for Muslim community..what u few fool communal people making agenda of HINDUU-MUSLIM. THE real fact is that most of the Hindu are satisfied and friendly with Muslim community and vice-versa in INDIA. So I pray to God BADLY PUNISH to those people who are creating such differences among HINDU-MUSLIM.
RE:The solution from the hanging sword of Islam on India is very simple: Hindutva
by venky prasad on Apr 21, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
Bhaskar, majority of the hindus don't hate muslims and no matter what BJP or the other upper-caste dominated groups might do, it wont happen. So let go 1920 and move on to 2007!
RE:The solution from the hanging sword of Islam on India is very simple: Hindutva
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 21, 2007 11:17 AM Permalink
Essential Muslim trait to be noted. Suck the secular and democratic values to benefit the Mullah cause when in minority by harping about minority status. Shun the rest and suppress them and take away their rights when in majority.