My deepest condolences to Loganathan's family. It is a great tragedy and I hope god gives strength to his aged parents. This is also strong slap on the face of the so called "US based india bashers". It is a reminder that our society might be indisciplined, but the US is to a high degree uncivilized and barbaric.
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by ramachandran nair on Apr 19, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
We indians seldom go to US or other countries to see their dear ones. It is they who used to come to India to see their relatives of course by virtue of their well being. Therefore there cannot be any surprise in this particular case and you do not read between lines.
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by Partha Das on Apr 19, 2007 12:58 PM Permalink
Do you mean to say that your parents would not come to see where you live,how you live at least once in 30 years,if you emigrated abroad.Would you not want them to see a different country,its people the beauty of another country.Would you not send them tickets out of your first salary?Is there no pleasure out of it?
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by gap on Apr 19, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
it is very cosltier to all to visit US to see him, instead he can come with his family to see all of his family members and relative and friends in india
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by viji on Apr 19, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
Very true, may be a harsh response. It would have been cheaper to get the body of the fellow Indian to the motherland soil rather than fly nine alive ones to the fatherland soil
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by Maryjorse Gandmar on Apr 19, 2007 11:06 PM Permalink
Viji like that if you do ecionomics cost benefit analysis ofcourse dead body cheaper than anything it is already dead you can simply throw it in gutter and move on. See you should think out of the box. One Professor is dead and nine people going to USA to pay last respect that's all. Beyomd that whether alive people cheaper dead people cheaper, whether they should take air ticket or go in train Shatabdi Express or go in Town bus like JJ Travels all the way to Blacksburg to save some pennies they will put into SBI account, all those cheap thoughts should not come to you. Let us pray for soul of dead professor.
I think this incident is a result of high competition to survive in this tough world. Today technology is grown to such an extent that even a layman has to learn and understand it to survive in the society....These US univerisities is the breeding ground for competition, stress, money and ugly business tactics.They teach you how to survive in this world by screwing your competitor..People across the globe want to have a degree from these universities because they just fetch you money.....It is the US, its society, its education system, its corporate companies are to be blamed for todays restlessness, stress, unhappy living among the youth all over the world....
VERY SAD INCIDENT. ALTHOUGH HE WAS NOT KNOWN TO ME PERSONALLY BUT CAN I FEEL THE MAGNITUDE OF SADNESS. A SCHOLAR LIKE HIM IS A GREAT LOSS NOT ONLY TO THE FAMILY BUT TO THE HUMANITY AS A WHOLE. MAY GOD GIVE STRENGTH TO HIS FAMILY TO BEAR THE TRAGEDY.
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by AMITABHA SAHA on Apr 19, 2007 12:57 PM Permalink
CORRECTION I MEANT 'I CAN FEEL THE MAGNITUDE OF THE SADNESS'. VERY SORRY FOR THE TYPING MISTAKE.
The death of Prefessor is really sad and both govt of India and US embassy helped his family members by providing passport and Visa within two three days...need to be appreciated good sign for us,but giving them free tickets... are some thing extra ordinary as they all from good financial back ground... Same government of India and tamilnadu are highly inhuman in other cases... Here it is cast politics and even more...
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by Sundar Balasubramani on Apr 19, 2007 12:52 PM Permalink
Yes, I agree with you. With due respect & condolences to Mr. Loganathans family members, it is very difficult to understand why they have been offered free tickets, when they can afford the same. I understand with PASSPORT & VISA FORMALITIES. But tickets are crossing lines & could be termed as political gimmick.
there is no need to be sad as his time in this world was over.this is not the subject to be sad. the main thing is that why this incident took place. what is teaching hidden in this incident. what the God want from the human . that is to be analysed and then only we can understand weather this incident is a matter of sadness or it is normal.
RE:this is not the subject of sadness
by banu on Apr 19, 2007 12:37 PM Permalink
God wans to let u know as u sow so shall u reap ...prob ..so better watch out !!!
Just few days ago I travelled to "Peace of Light" event in Bali - where people from 5 continents and 27 countries gathered to perform traditional rituals for the peace of the world and vowed to take initiative to bring in the world. We ALL must do it together. Such events could be any where next. We need to learn how to handle our emotions and mind and teach them to others. In this regard I find Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's Art of Living programs effective, which has been transformational for even the most hard-core terrorists.
Let us all work together for peace in action and not just wishful thinking.
We donot care even a bit when thousnads of people die in india in shoot outs, accidents and other things. It is shame that human life is more precious if someone dies in US compared to what happens in India. I donot whether even our X PM shastry got this proganda. It is shame keep this issue for so many when we donot even care a hook for kargil heros
The propoganda is not because Dr. Loganathan got killed in US, it is because of the way he was killed/faced death. What would you and I know about the pains he must have gone through to get to one of the prestigious universities in the world? He is a man who has chased his dreams and lived up to them. Remember he died as a teacher while teaching.
I may not have known Dr. Loganathan personally but being a Civil Engineering Graduate I know the contributions he has done not just to India but to the rest of the world. FYI he is one of the world's pioneering Hydrology expert. Today even the American Society of Civil Engineers has paid tribute to Dr. Loganathan and it is unfortunate that people of his own country did not recognize his efforts and above that they criticize his death. Yes, that is indeed a shameful act on part of you and everyone who supports you.
Shastryji and all Kargil heroes are always remembered.
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by Sundar Balasubramani on Apr 19, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
Mr. Uday, Many IIM Graduates of today even refused foreign jobs telling they are happy working for India with pride instead of working abroad & this is despite having offered the highest pay scales (upto 8 lacs/month). Then where do you see greatness of Mr. Loganathan's who shifted to USA & had a wish of getting cremated in US and not in India, his birthplace. Just because he was born here does not mean that he is an Indian & we are his fellow citizens. Please understand. He seemed to be proud to be called an American/NRI rather than being an Indian.
Yes, many IIM graduates are refusing US jobs and taking jobs in India. Excellent!!! But you should understand that the decision whether to stay in India & abroad is a personal decision and no person of any country has a right to question that decision. After all isn't that what democracy means? It is the freedom for which we have fought for centuries.
Just think of Ms. Panchal, she is just 26 and was in India, which has lots of opportunities. But she chose to study in V Tech and she never might have thought that she was risking her life. Who would know what she may have had for India tomorrow. She didn't live enough to show the rest of us what potential she had. For that matter everyone who got killed in this massacre, none of them had a chance to live enough.
On a different note don%u2019t you forget that it is the so called NRIs who fled to US or else where in late 1980%u2019s have changed the attitude of other countries towards India. Indians/India is no longer looked down upon. We are being looked at someone who has the potential. A country which could possibly be a super power in few decades. Yes, I agree we have grown a lot indigenously but the major push came from other nations having interest in India, and it is these NRIs who have exposed India to the rest of the world.
The bigger question here is how can we deal with the inhumanity or the mind set of these killers? How could we preach peace? How do you show these killers that they have achieved nothing killing people%u2026be it Kashmir, be it Iraq, be it WTC, or be it the latest killings in V Tech.
It would have been more beneficial to everyone if this blog discussed such issues%u2026.rather than cursing the dead.
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by Maryjorse Gandmar on Apr 19, 2007 11:50 PM Permalink
I am agreeing with you 100% in toto but 1 thing is that you are a southie you are saying Hindh. In North India we say Hind. Jai Hind, not Jai Hindh. Let us say it once more Jai Hind! Once more Jai Hind! My blood boiling my skin crawling just saying that Jai Hind! Jai Hind! Oh my India when will I come back to your arms. Jao Hind! I am profusely overcome with patriot feelings Jai Hind Jai Hind Jai Hind!
Even though u say %u201CJai Hind%u201D and say you are patriotic I see your core values still differentiate south to north. FYI the salutation %u201CJai Hind%u201D was first introduced by Dr.Champakaraman Pillai a SOUTHIE and later popularized by Subhash Chandra Bose.
It is not about the spelling, it is not about whether I am a southie or you are a northie, it is about OUR COUNTRY OUR NATION INDIA!!! Make India feel proud of her children!
If only mother India can speak she would tell all of us that she would hate to see all of us discriminating each other by region, race, and creed.
%u201CJai Hindh%u201D or %u201CJai Hind%u201D the meaning it conveys is still the same. VICTORY OF INDIA.
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by Maryjorse Gandmar on Apr 21, 2007 03:46 AM Permalink
Kumbamettu, I am differentiating North and South because I have sense of direction, not core value. I can also point out East( where Professor was born ) and West( where Professor was shot). If you want I will go into North East, South West, like that minute details also. By the way what sort of name is Kumbamettu ? Or Champakraman ? Champak sounds like name of some pet squirrel or woodpecker. If I had name like Champakraman I will die of sheer shame. That is why you will always be a southie pillai and I am proud Punjabi northie. Now say Jai Hind! Jai Hind ki sena! Jai Hind! Jai Hind! Jai Hind!
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by manoj on Apr 19, 2007 12:16 PM Permalink
We must take responsibility and start working to eradicate violence from our society than to keep feeling socked at US massacre. thanks.
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by venkataraman krishnamurthy on Apr 19, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
right but why so much propaganda in media for US india. Indian indians are not indians. special treatment to NRI like politicians
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by on Apr 19, 2007 12:57 PM Permalink
why, oh why do we always reflect on the negatives.
while i won't take away anything from the tragedies, loss of human life and sacrificies at home - i would rather use this space to pay tribute to the persons who died. one cant help but feel sorry for even the person that did the voilent deed.
as i read in the messages here and from reading through the accounts of his family - we have lost a lovely person.
hope the close families, relatives and friends of those that died (and all those that are victims of mindless voilence) find peace in what must be very difficult times.
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by Manoharan Dharmarajan on Apr 19, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
You are absolutely right. It is all the media which is encashing on this episode. While I would like to offer my sincere and heartfelt condolences to Prof's Family, I feel that media is going overboard to highlight this issue
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by Maryjorse Gandmar on Apr 19, 2007 10:53 PM Permalink
I know where is Blacksburg now but this Kargil where it is located ? Is it in your backyard ? Why every death must be compared to another death ? This Kargil place only having heros no heroines why not ? Whay about item girls in Kargil ? So many doubts I am having rediff will clear it up for me I am sure.
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by Sivakumar Subramanian on Apr 19, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
The life that was taken was not a Ordinary Man's life first. It is the life of a Man who struggled to his last breath. Don't speak non sense here & and try to respect the man for his hard work.
