It is vry pathetic that the indian government wakes up when there is a crisis or a disaster. Otherwise just look at the way we get treated when we land in any of the indian airports, every guy there right from immigration to customs is there to fleece an NRI or create a pshycological pressure making the person returning to inida feel un easy. Any teatment for this or we too need to die or get killed someday for the government to do its part
RE:Treatment to NRIs
by MMR Khasimi on Apr 18, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
Hi On, Don't you think the Airport treatment in India is much better then that of in London or America. I felt so humiliated when I landed in Heathrow bcoz of the checks I have to go through just because because I am Asian. Same in Taxes as well. I feel NRI should change there mindset and should not arrive at our Airport with a attitude that they should be treated as VIP just because they are NRI.
RE:RE:Treatment to NRIs
by mahesh jindal on Apr 18, 2007 07:32 PM Permalink
Boss, UK is careful now due to the London Bombings by some radical asholes.So all other samaritans have to pay the price for that.
RE:Treatment to NRIs
by Vinayak Patil on Apr 18, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
India is home country. London or texas are foreign country. Immigration control in London heathrow or texas do not create misery for their own citizens...
Indian immigration control and customs department abuse Indians arriving or departing from India itself.
Bad treatment from foreign country can be understood but home country??? come on!!!!!!!
RE:Treatment to NRIs
by subramanian padmanabhan on Apr 18, 2007 05:34 PM Permalink
it is rediculous to make a generalised comment as if UK & USA customs/immigration are torturing all incomers. I hav visited USA thrice and everytime the treatment was fine and not at all harsh.See it is their duty to ask questions and check baggages.What is wrong in it?Do they rob our belongings as happensin India.So dont compare india with others.Our India is unique in all respects,b a govt servant or a politician, everyone loots openly. If u resist,well there are goondas to treat u.Nothing but mafia gangs operate in the name of checkers.Down with hell, India will never improveman.Better dont comment about others before knowing what is available at home.
Plz don't go too emotional , They have left India on professional reasons . Hence they are resident americans on their choice . I have nothing against them ,but there is nothing to be proud about them as they are now offically Americans and not Indians . So please do not blow the crap of love of motherland , Indian sentiments etc ... What has happended is unfortunate , & I request the media do not create a national crisis on this issue .
RE:Plz don't go overboard ...
by bharat on Apr 18, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
Kishore,
Agreed that the killing of Prof Loganathan should not be looked at as a national crisis, bu would you not differentiate, in absolutely any way, an American citizen by birth from an Indian who has become an America citizen after migration? If that is the case, do you oppose the extension special previleges to persons of Indian origin (such as PIO card)?
RE:Plz don't go overboard ...
by kishore on Apr 18, 2007 04:11 PM Permalink
Like I already said that the incident is unfortunate I would not like to go deep into this discussion . Since you have raised about "extension special previleges" , I don't give a damn about it , as I PREFER TO LIVE , SERVE AND DEFINITELY DIE IN MY MOTHERLAND ,INDIA . Thanks for the information anyway .
Its hard to imagine that Dr Loganathans family did not have passports . especially since he was in US for 30 years.normally family members/parents visit their children in US/UK. He also wants to be buried ( not cremated/burned ?) in university campus,not in tamilnadu.whatever..
Iam more deeply grieved about Ms Minal Panchal , who was killed too. she was young and died a untimely death.may her soul rest in peace.
RE:How come Dr Loganathans family did not have passports ?
by Jai Hind on Apr 18, 2007 04:07 PM Permalink
You are more grieved about Ms. Minal Panchal? So you now discriminate between the dead also? Bhejafry, u r in extremely sorry state. There is no religion, caste, gender, age of a dead human. Dont ever discriminate between two dead bodies lying in front of you and say 'I will only give shoulder to this dead body and not the other one'. Idiot.
RE:How come Dr Loganathans family did not have passports ?
by Jai Hind on Apr 18, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
Well, this advice/warning goes for myself too. Jai Hind.
RE:How come Dr Loganathans family did not have passports ?
by bharat on Apr 18, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
This is no surprise. There are many Indian citizens who do not have passports. Perhaps they did have passports at some point in time and did not bother to renew them thinking that they will not visit USA again.
RE:How come Dr Loganathans family did not have passports ?
by on Apr 18, 2007 04:48 PM Permalink
Shocked to see such an idiotic Note. I am totally alarmed to see such type of devils roaming around in this world.R u mad dear friend to probe into whether they have passport or not ? Dont try to steal attention by passing these type of hurting comments . No one is ready to hear your prejudiced comment on this breathtaking incident.
its fine that mr loganathans family is visiting them but will the govt extend the same facility to indians who are suffering in uganda right now facing the hostility of the natives. one person was stoned to death and what do we get from our govt... a stony silence.. let there be a fair treatment of all NRIs... may loganathan rest in peace
We must realise something important here...whether NRI's remember motherland or not, NATION does not let any NRI feel alone..that too when Indian abroad is in trouble...SO..whether NRI's serve motherland or not, INDIA will always tell the world that she cares a lot for her children.....and no NRI will be left orphan abroad.....Can you please understand the spirit in this...thanx a ton !!! Jai Hind
RE:Understand the spirit PLZ !!
by umashankar narayanan on Apr 19, 2007 04:31 AM Permalink
India cares for NRI's? come on...you are joking..I have nothing to say against India. But do you feel the same treatment will be there if some NRI dies in say "Srilanka" or "Nepal"? This treatment is probably because of the enormous publicity that it has got in the media. Just a one-off case.
It is all right for the passports etc. to be issued but who is paying the fare for the 8 or so people who are queing up to travel for the funeral. If it is the Indian government, will it do the same for the relatives of any Indian national who loses his/her life abroad in the course of a visit, in a tragedy? Before anyone blackballs me let me remind them that Loganathan was an American citizen and the potential for garnering publicity from a high profile tragedy is not sufficient reason for the largesse. My rant is only in case my premise is valid or else, my apologies for casting aspersions on the government.
RE:Who is paying?
by Gopi nath on Apr 18, 2007 03:32 PM Permalink
We must realise something important here...whether NRI's remember motherland or not, NATION does not let any NRI feel alone..that too when Indian abroad is in trouble...SO..whether NRI's serve motherland or not, INDIA will always tell the world that she cares a lot for her children.....and no NRI will be left orphan abroad.....Can you please understand the spirit in this...thanx a ton !!! Jai Hind
RE:Who is paying?
by kishore on Apr 18, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
GopiNath , Sorry to say this , but we Resident Indian taxpayers don't get the service for the amount of money we pay as taxes . We don't have proper roads , & basic amenities ,So it plain sucks when our money is deviated to all such unnecessary incidents . I know it sounds hard , but I believe the serving the living is better than serving the dead .
RE:Who is paying?
by Soumitro Miukherjee on Apr 18, 2007 06:03 PM Permalink
I read Mr.GopiNath's comment independent of this 'who is paying' issue and had complimented his sentiments. However, I do not think the government would be paying for th trip (or should be) considering the larger issues involved. It is however fair to assist the bereved family in getting their passports ASAP, which I believe they do go out of their way to issue, when someone needs them under such trying times.
RE:Who is paying?
by Tony on Apr 18, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
It is all right for the passports etc. to be issued but who is paying the fare for the 8 or so people who are queing up to travel for the funeral. If it is the Indian government, will it do the same for the relatives of any Indian national who loses his/her life abroad in the course of a visit, in a tragedy? Before anyone blackballs me let me remind them that Loganathan was an American citizen and the potential for garnering publicity from a high profile tragedy is not sufficient reason for the largesse. My rant is only in case my premise is valid or else, my apologies for casting aspersions on the government.
RE:Who is paying?
by on Apr 18, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
I completely agree with Paramesh. Why on earth should India take the intiative of arranging Prof Loganathan's family to US. It is the responisbility of US for taking care of the travel arrangement of next kin of one of its deceased citizen. BTW, it is high time india policy makers make passport a mandatory document something similar to IT PAN Card.
RE:Who is paying?
by bharat on Apr 18, 2007 03:47 PM Permalink
Compulsory passports? It will be a logistics nightmare for the passport office. Have you forgotton the Election Commission ID card fiasco a few years back? Processing passport papers of such a hugh population is an unmanageable task!
America does have lots of idea in pocket to eradicate MUSLIMS from the world but they dont want to control or change GUN laws!
May be they will after few days they will put some MUSLIM name for this massacre and throw him into GUANTANAMO BAY prison! And of course Al-Quaeda is always there!!
We must realise something important here...whether NRI's remember motherland or not, NATION does not let any NRI feel alone..that too when Indian abroad is in trouble...SO..whether NRI's serve motherland or not, INDIA will always tell the world that she cares a lot for her children.....and no NRI will be left orphan abroad.....Can you please understand the spirit in this...thanx a ton !!! Jai Hind
