RE:BEware jihadis
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 01:20 PM Permalink
Dear Rajesh I am against the People who kill Innocents, they are not Muslims.. But your comment on Destroying Makkah & Madina is a Day Dream.. Dare it if you can. Allah has linked the Life of this World With the LIfe of Islam, if you are destructing Makkah & Madina, which means you are destructing the Whole World. By Demolishing the Heart of this World, this World will not Survive, if you any doubts just try to demolish Makkah & Madina
RE:BEware jihadis
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 01:24 PM Permalink
Dear Hindu Tiger Force, If you have really Masculine, why dont you go and stand Hand in Hand with our Indian Army to fight with Mujahaideens, if you really love Bharat Matha.. All you are capable of is, to kill the soft targets, by going in group of 20 and killing a Poor Muslim and Raping Muslim Women and Killing the Foetus of a child and Hail Jai Sri Ram.. Shame on You, if you are really Masculine, go to the Border and Help Our Indian Army.. Ibrahim
RE:RE:[object]
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 03:25 PM Permalink
I agreee that Osama, Mullah Omar are Impotents to Hide, do you have the same feeling that the Sangh Parivar is Hijdon ki Fauj... You will not accept it Bcos you are Brain washed, Eye Washed and Ass Washed by RSS
RE:RE:RE:[object]
by shekar on Apr 18, 2007 06:02 PM Permalink
I think to hear from a muslim that hindus are brain washed is laughable. If you guys had brains and could think coherently, your religion and 72 virgins in after-life would not exist
RE:RE:RE:RE:[object]
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 06:24 PM Permalink
Read Vedas, There are many Virgins in the Heaven, Ramba, Menaka and so on ..... they work for Indira, whenever Vishwa Mithra is Meditating, these Virgins will come and do Belly dancing and break his concentration..
RE:RE:RE:[object]
by Rock Water on Apr 18, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
Ibrahim, In India everyone is got a voice and its heard and not every Hindu is a fundamentalist, if they were then we would have had bajrang dal or RSS ruling India, but Hindus are intelligent and know what is good for the country and we accept every Indian who loves India as our own, we just hate traitors, but in an Islamic country the law of Islam prevails not the humanitarian law but the law of the dark ages, so who are more sophisticated and human its just needs common sense and you would feel good that your in a country like India were a democratic society prevails
RE:See the Link
by Andy Louis on Apr 18, 2007 12:05 PM Permalink
Get lost. This is and Old link and already apologised by US. This was mainly due to the Gujarat hate..
RE:See the Link
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
Apologised to you in Person.. How long will you Justify that RSS is a Peace Loving Organisation.. Truth cannot be Hidde.. Bluff Masters ...
RE:RE:See the Link
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
It is not the Fight Between Hindu Militants and Muslim Militants. RSS is the Brain and Baj rang Dal is just a tool, the brain sends the tools to hit soft targets, raping Muslim Women and Killing even the Foetus of Muslim Child. Do you still have any doubts about RSS
RE:RE:RE:RE:See the Link
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 03:28 PM Permalink
I dont Justify Killing of Innocents in Kashmir I am strictly against it, but You Maniac is Justifying the Killings of RSS Terrorists in Day Light, Shame on you...
RE:RE:[object]
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 04:39 PM Permalink
We all Know that there are Terrorists elements in Islam, all I am saying is the Leader of all Terrorists is US.. Do you have any doubts
RE:psyop and Islam
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 11:30 AM Permalink
True Muslims Firmly beleive that All Human Beings are born to Adam and Eve which means you and me are Brothers, that's why we say 1) South Asians Bhai Bhai 2) Hindu Muslim Bhai Bhai and so on... we never beleive in boundaries, these are man made boundaries, why do you want to limit your love with boundaries. Love for all and Hate for None, that is True Islam.. Ibrahim...
RE:[object]
by Ashok Patil on Apr 19, 2007 12:25 PM Permalink
Then allow hindu temple in saudi arabia and every muslim country and jewsih temple,a chritsian church,a sikh gurudwara, a budhist pagoda,a parsi agiary and so on.Muslims migrate to non muslim country and start demanding islamic rule is that just. America has hundreds of mosques like any other western country
RE:RE:psyop and Islam
by vikas kohli on Apr 18, 2007 12:02 PM Permalink
All these problems are due to futher a few peoples/countries political/individual agenda. Sad part is that the rift between Musilms and other religions is widening because of the increasing numnber of fundementalists on both sides. Judge people for who they are and not on the basis of religion.
i personally hate the policies and agendas of these countries/people and what it does to the impressionable and weak minded.
RE:lies about Hindu groups
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 11:32 AM Permalink
Mr. Rishi Knowingly or Un knowingly you are a part of a Terrorist Org called RSS. Please follow the link.. to know the truth..
RE:RE:lies about Hindu groups
by Mahesh Jagga on Apr 18, 2007 02:56 PM Permalink
An obscure entity from east virginia has listed RSS as a terrorist organization.
So? We got to believe every idiot american thinks? Why do we need to attach so much importance to it.
RE:RE:RE:lies about Hindu groups
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 03:19 PM Permalink
You always beleive what a Idiot American says 1) American said Talibans are freedom Fighters before 10 years you said Yes 2) Now America says the Taliban are Terrorists, you say Yes 3) US says there are Biological Weapons in Iraq, you said Yes 4) Now also Beleive that RSS is a Terrorist Org. You will not comply with the 4 th point, bcoz you are Brain Wahed, Eye Washed and Ass Washed by RSS
RE:RE:RE:RE:lies about Hindu groups
by Mahesh Jagga on Apr 18, 2007 06:44 PM Permalink
You are very quick to brand others. By the way this was my first message on this post and when did i said yes to your questions.
I will leave your provocation aside.
Why should I bother about commenting on points 1 to 3. They do not concern India directly. If you believe that common Indian believed in US while it was siding with Taliban or saying that Iraq had biological weapons then it is your problem of perception. You feel that before castigating some one or a group you need to assign presumed guilt, then the guilt will not belong the the target but to you and you only.
For a common Indian, it was a repeatedly clear case of US arming someone and then identifying same as threat. It happened with Taliban, Iran, Iraq etc.
Why is it that Muslim states only get into this situation where first they get armed, then they develop into enemies and are later vanquished by same US.
Both do not seem to be able to comprehend who are their friends and who are the enemies. So they sleep togather one day, become enemies another day.
Who is brain washed and what else?
As for RSS, it does not need a certificate from some obscure US entity which cannot differentiate its front from the back.
why hindu's are too much afraid of Islam. Islam gives full freedom of life. Its doesn't ask the ladies to be SATI, or forbade widows not to marry or making people tochable / untouchable. declaring people high class and low class. in my village the low cast people can not enter the high cast people. Hindu religion is totally set by people as per their wishes, why almost all gods were having more than one wives and why the followers are stoped, why the draupdi was married with five men if it is not as per the religion, why hindu pandits were keeping devdasi's in their temple to fullfill their sex desires if this is not in the religion etc etc. Islam is totally clean from these things..
RE:why
by sandeep dwivedy on Apr 18, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
Dear Mr Advani, The are least bother about Islam. The violance is part of Islam.The word Kafir & Fatwa is in their Dictionary. They forget that The Kashmiri Pandits are forcefully driven out by the Islamic militants, & Indian Govt Can't do anything for minority Kashmiri Pandit's . But the same secular Central Govt crying to defend the Godhra kand & other minorities. Where ever Muslims are in the world Whether it is Kashmir or 9/11 or Kosovo or Daffur, you will find the Islamic Militancy. We forget the cruelty of Aurangzeb. The Ishlamic world can try the peaceful solution of the crisis in the secular society.
RE:why
by Nish on Apr 18, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
Well said. Now Sheik is gone because has no answer.The problem with Muslims are they don't respect others relegion unless forced.
RE:why
by abhishek mishra on Apr 18, 2007 01:58 PM Permalink
Think again before you play the blame game.The Hindu were never against Islam. Every religion has its own beauty and significance.If you goes historically Islam is not the mainstream relgion of India.But you were welcomed to settle down here.But you people have always tried to vandalise the scenario.
RE:why
by advani on Apr 18, 2007 10:58 AM Permalink
I have seen so many times in news paper hindu father or hindu brother raped thier daughter or sisters.. it is not related with religion..
RE:[object]
by advani on Apr 18, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
raping is an offense and prohibited in all religions but keeping ladies in the temples as Devdasi's for sex.. what is this religion ?
How is that during the 80's when the Soviets were occupying the Afghan region that the US happened to had a nice cosy relation with the "Freedom Fighters" who are later known as Jihadi Outfits ? If doesn't suit to my taste I brand the organisation as terrorist or else they are brethren !! What happened when innocent hindus were forced out to leave our own Kashmir. Blame the then Governor Jagmohan!!!!This is what answers will reel out from secularvads. T
The Article says that US took the initiative to create Jundullah. See how manipulated US is, thees Jundullah will be coined as Freedom Fighters by the Western Media, until they reach US acheives its goal of dissolving USSR. I still remember the Hollywood Movie Rambo, in which Stallone fights in Afghanistan against Russia, and the Afghan Militants are projected as Freedom Fighters in that Movie, now they are the branded terrorists according to the US specualtive Media.. So its all in the game, whenever you want you can manipulate as you wish.. It does not stop with that, the CIA's list of Branded Terrorists orgs, has Bajrang Dal and RSS in the list. But this message board is full of Karsevaks, you are all branded as Terrorists by US, how do you react about it. You will scream from top to bottom that You are a social organisation, but when you are hindering the growth of Christianity you will be branded as Terrorists. So the speculative game is on, the definition of Terrorist or a Freedom Fighter is wide open...If US wants you can be a Freedom Fighter for Today and on the next day you can be a Terrorist..
RE:Manipulation by US
by wajidshaikh mehboob on Apr 18, 2007 11:17 AM Permalink
My Dear Brother Sriram, Your Knowledge on Islam is not well versed.Islam comes from the root word Salam which means Peace.How can a religion of Peace permits Unnecessary Killing in the name of Allah.My brother read Quran with understanding avialable in many Languages.I challange to whomsoever to take out any verse from Quran Which speak Unnecessary killing.Speak Logically and with Proof.
RE:[object]
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 11:03 AM Permalink
According to Mr. Togadia, the definition of Trishul is one arm is to destroy Mosques, the other arm is to destroy Church and the Central arm is to destroy Atheists.. So this how this Fanatic has understood the meaning of Trishul, should I don't find any difference between a Taliban and this Guy, who is the leader representing Hunduism. Now don't say that Islam only promotes Violence, all the Religions are mis-interpreted for Violence and Hindusim is not an exception... All these stories of Hindus being Peace Loving Parrots is not always true, there are more fanatics in Hinduism than in Islam.. But all these Fantics be a Muslim or Hindu should come to a battle ground and fight, and leave the innocents to live peacefully
RE:Manipulation by US
by harifromchennai on Apr 18, 2007 02:31 PM Permalink
Mr. Ibrahim, You speak as if you are the spokesperson of jamaat-ud-dawa. And also shown pseudo sympathy on RSS on proscribing it as a terrorist outfit by US while lashing out US for its deeds in the rest of world. Where do you stand? please clarify.
RE:Manipulation by US
by kishore on Apr 18, 2007 10:42 AM Permalink
Yet an another anti-US Stand now , Come on man , the suituation in the 1980s , US needed an reason to fight the USSR , the jihads needed the ammunition to fight them . The idea is ,it was a business deal which suited both the parties After the fall of USSR , US never needed them , thus the business deal fell through . The so called jihads instead of moving on & try leaving a normal life went cockoo-bananas with their own ideologies . Why in the world are you blaming the US for some loonies who did not have any purpose in their life is beyond me ? For the record I am not pro-US , but I cannot find any reasoning in your theory at all
RE:Manipulation by US
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 10:57 AM Permalink
If you Like it or Not, please visit the web site of CIA and search for Terrorists organisations in India, you can find Bajrang Dal and RSS in the list. All I am saying is I am ready to accept some Jehadi Orgs are Terrorists by killing innocents, but why dont you accept RSS and Bajrang Dal as Terrorists who rule the country.. "Democratic Terrorists"
RE:Manipulation by US
by Sriram Vangal on Apr 18, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Execpt ISLAM, all other muslim organisations are in that list. You can list only 2 of hindu outfits
RE:Manipulation by US
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 18, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
Dear Sri Ram, If you steal Rs.100 also you are a thief and if you steal Rs.100,000 also you are a Thief. So don't compare Hindus have only 2 Terrorists Org and Muslims have 10... That doen't make sense
RE:Manipulation by US
by SI on Apr 18, 2007 11:00 AM Permalink
Peeps,Ibrahim,has a point. If you can counter the point,do it,if not,shut your mouth and stop shooting the messenger.
Kishore,"After the fall of USSR , US never needed them , thus the business deal fell through .The so called jihads instead of moving on & try leaving a normal life went cockoo-bananas with their own ideologies"..ahh!Thatz your grudge.They should have actually stopped and 'moved on'when US told them to stop.They should then start to fight only when US say "start".That would be ideal,isn't it?Ths US played a big part in creating the Afghan Frankenstein.Mary Shelly's novel is the perfect analogy for this case.
RE:Manipulation by US
by kishore on Apr 18, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
Sorry SI (sports illustrated), US did not tell them to start or stop , they only aided them in the rebellion against the Soviet without any prior knowledge of the people they are dealing with . That's the only mistake of the US , for which the whole world is suffering
RE:RE:Jundullah's Indian brothers
by Nash on Apr 18, 2007 09:36 AM Permalink
Moron Zonda, looks like ur a freelance jihadis. U stupid idiot, get more knowdlege on who the terrorist are, around the world, it's none other than people like YOU
RE:Jundullah's Indian brothers
by Kaka Mehra on Apr 18, 2007 09:50 AM Permalink
Zonda, what rubbish you are talking. Al Qaida is a anti national, anti religious body while BJP is a nationalist and true secular political party. Raise your knowledge level man or suck somebody's lol to gain.
RE:Jundullah's Indian brothers
by Kala Vohra on Apr 18, 2007 09:39 AM Permalink
this is a idiotic comparision. who make this type ilogical comparision, they generally put a question mark over their origin and identity.
RE:Jundullah's Indian brothers
by df on Apr 18, 2007 09:47 AM Permalink
You are a living proof that its not the Islamic agenda. Muslims ruled India for a thousand years and it you remain a hindu. Even an economic blocade would have been enough to force conversions.I live in Australia and I have seen so many hindu families in which the children are more christan than hindu. They do it by choice no one forces them.
RE:Jundullah's Indian brothers
by Niraj Bagwe on Apr 18, 2007 09:28 AM Permalink
I am amazed at ur intelligence when u compare the BJP with Al-Qaida. You seem to have lost ur marbles completely. I pity you.
RE:[object MouseEvent]
by Zonda on Apr 18, 2007 12:32 PM Permalink
Niraj, I had expected exactly this kind of reply cause you and many people like you cant think.
RE:RE:Jundullah's Indian brothers
by adrgdr on Apr 18, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
Yes. There is a subtle difference. For starters, all members ofr Al-qaida are half cut
RE:Jundullah's Indian brothers
by df on Apr 18, 2007 09:31 AM Permalink
There is nothing wrong in comparing the BJP with Al-Queda. Even the American think tank site "terrorism.com" lists RSS as a terrorist organisation. Its not just any other site. Its is the most authentic and accepted listing of terrorist sites around the world. RSS and BJP are just two names for the same terrorist organisation.
