RE:hey what is ADMS BRIDGE....
by manoj on Apr 16, 2007 06:09 PM Permalink
Read Ashok K Banker's Ramayana edition- Here he has written clearly that the bridge the Lord Ram was trying to build will be destroyed in Tsunami.
Later Sea creatures will raise the hood for the monkey army to cross the palk strait one by one for two days.
Later they return to Ayodhya using Ravana's Pushpuk with sita and they do it in a day.
So according to original valmiki's edition still the bridge or now supposedly seen sand bridge cannot be scientifically claimed.
RE:hey what is ADMS BRIDGE....
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 06:14 PM Permalink
There is no Indian term for Tsunami. Not atleast in south India where most of the Indian coastline stretches. everyone calls it's a Tsunami which is a Japanese term. So what you say about Ashok Banker's Ramayan misses this name factor. What do they call tsunami here.
RE:RE:hey what is ADMS BRIDGE....
by manoj on Apr 16, 2007 06:45 PM Permalink
Just read Ashok Banker Ramayana-- There will be a earthquake then The sea will retreat and then a big wave is seen in horizon and a large wave destroys bridge and lord ram is thrown towards the land by the wave and lot of monkey army dies.
RE:hey what is ADMS BRIDGE....
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 06:53 PM Permalink
Valmiki wrote the ramayana who lived during ram's time. According to wikipedia, Ashok Banker's Ramayana is "A contemporary novel, it is an epic hard science fiction story about a war between the gods of different faiths. Weary of the constant infighting between religious sects and their deities, God (aka Allah, Yahweh, brahman, or whatever one chooses to call the Supreme Deity) wishes to destroy creation altogether." That says it all. It's contemporary fiction. Hindus have respect for valmiki's ramayana, not this Banker's fiction.
RE:hey what is ADMS BRIDGE....
by Rahul P on Apr 16, 2007 06:11 PM Permalink
Under the UPA goverment we cannot DARE to call it anything else Janardhan...
U have to live with IT, alteast till UPA is in power....
Or Soniaji leaves and then Mr. Singh can do something about it.
Ram Sethu - earliest and largest carbon-fiber reinforced civil engineering structure known to man Floating stones found in Rameshwaram
Do stones float in water? The answer would be a certain no. But in the island of Rameshwaram in Tamil Nadu, stones, it seems, do float in water. Difficult to believe-but it's a reality.
Floating stones of Rameshwaram have a mythological twist to it. According to the Hindu mythological epic Ramayana, which was supposed to have taken place over 17 million years ago, Lord Rama and his army of monkeys used stones to build a bridge across the Palk Strait to link Rameshwaram to Sri Lanka. Legend as well as archaeological findings indicate the first signs of human inhabitation in Sri Lanka date back to the primitive age and it is assumed that the bridge's age is also almost equivalent.
G. Mohan Das, a local historian and caretaker of the stones in the temple, said that these stones could have been the kind used to build the mythological bridge.
"The history of these floating stones is that when Lord Rama made a bridge to trek to Lanka to bring back his consort Sita, these are the same stones used. But today's educated people do not agree to it. They believe it is a coral which is in Australia, Chennai, in small islands. We believe there is no difference in these stones. Both the stones do not have air in them. The composition is the same and it has 40 kinds of chemicals," he said.
Space images taken by NASA reveal a series of rock outcrops in the Palk Strait between India and Sri Lanka. Some historians say these could be the part of the mythological bridge linking Indian peninsula with Sri Lanka island.
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NASA Photos Reveal Bridge to Lanka
According to the Ramayana, Lord Rama built a bridge to Lanka in ancient times, and the new photos greatly intrigue Hindus.
Space images taken by NASA reveal a mysterious ancient bridge in the Palk Strait between India and Sri Lanka. The recently discovered bridge currently named as Adam´s Bridge is made of chain of shoals, c.18 mi (30 km) long.
The bridge´s unique curvature and composition by age reveals that it is man made. The legends as well as Archeological studies reveal that the first signs of human inhabitants in Sri Lanka date back to the a primitive age, about 1,750,000 years ago and the bridge´s age is also almost equivalent.
This information is a crucial aspect for an insight into the mysterious legend called Ramayana, which was supposed to have taken place in tredha yuga (more than 1,700,000 years ago).
In this epic, there is a mentioning about a bridge, which was built between Rameshwaram (India) and Srilankan coast under the supervision of a dynamic and invincible figure called Rama who is supposed to be the incarnation of the supreme.
This information may not be of much importance to the archeologists who are interested in exploring the origins of man, but it is sure to open the spiritual gates of the people of the world to have come to know an ancient history linked to the Indian mythology.
According to encyclopedia.com (rä´me) or Rama's Bridge, chain of shoals, c.18 mi (30 km) long, in the Palk Strait between India and Sri Lanka. At high tide it is covered by c.4 ft (1.2 m) of water. A steamer ferry links Rameswaram, India, with Mannar, Sri Lanka. According to Hindu legend, the bridge was built to transport Rama, hero of the Ramayana, to the island to rescue his wife from the demon king Ravanna.
Hugh Joseph writes:
"I read the story headlined above with great interest. This is a story of major significance, as understanding its implications will turn the entire world of Science and History on its head. This bridge, according to accounts in the Ramayana and the Srimad-Bhagavatam, was constructed in the age know as Treta, over 2 million years ago.
How did the writers without super space-ranging satellites know about the existence of this bridge? In these ancient accounts, written over 5,000 years ago, we find discussions of, among other things, space travel, inter planetary travel, what we call UFOs and what we mistakenly call ETs. This is not only the History of the planet Earth, but also of this Universe, (a mediocre universe among many millions of universes).
Here one can also learn the real undisguised and uncontaminated truth about God. Our man-made religions are of little or no value when compared to the stunning and breathtaking revelations found in the pages of the Srimad-Bhagavatam, Ramayan, Bhagavad-gita, etc."
(source: rense.com. For more refer to chapter on Vimanas).
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UPA Government destroying India's Ancient Heritage?
Sir Monier Williams (1860-1888) an Indologist and head of the Oxford's Boden Chair has identified Nalasetu as the present day's Adam's Bridge (or what we call Ramar-Setu). Here is the description of the term as found in the Monnier Williams Sanskrit-English dictionary.
Nalasetu - setu m. 'Nala bridge', the causeway constructed by the monkey Nala for R%u0101ma from the continent to La%u1E45k%u0101 (the modern Adam's Bridge )
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The Ram Sethu (Adam's bridge) causeway must have been a major engineering feat for its thin trace is still so clearly visible on the present day satellite images (Joseph 2004). It has resisted the relentless erosion of the sea for almost 2 million years and it attests to the great engineering skills of the ancient Indian people. It is the earliest and largest carbon-fibre reinforced civil engineering structure known to man and should be protected as a world heritage site.
This structure of close to 48 kilometers which is 3 to 30 feet deep through its course and was well above the sea level till the 15th century. The oldest recorded map that mentions of Rama%u2019s Bridge is the Malabar Bowen Map of Netherlands which is supposed to have been made in 1747, where the map mentions no name to the bridge but has mention about a place Ramencoil. Further, the same place is mentioned again in a 1788 Map of Hindoostan available in the Sarasvathi Mahal Library, Thanjavur.
This bridge has also been mentioned by James Rennel (1742-1830), was the First Surveyor General of the East India Company, in his earliest maps of India 1788 as Rama%u2019s Bridge. However, Rennel carefully and tactfully renamed the bridge as Adam%u2019s Bridge in his 1804 version of the map.
On the basis of Hindu scriptures, it is a widely held opinion that Rama Setu is the formation to facilitate Vishnu Avatara Maryada Purushottama Sri Rama and his army to cross the Palk Strait, as described in detail in Valmiki Ramayana and other scriptures.
This bridge has also been mentioned by James Rennel in his earliest maps of India 1788 as Rama%u2019s Bridge. However, Rennel carefully and tactfully renamed the bridge as Adam%u2019s Bridge in his 1804 version of the map.
Lying dormant under the waters, the bridge again came into light after the NASA%u2019s satellite pictures released in the early 1990s created curiosity among historians and excitement among Dharmics. Tales started going around on the date of Rama%u2019s Bridge starting from 1.75 million years to 3500 years. NASA though accepted the authenticity of the pictures, however refused to comment on the dating.
Few dating attempts have been made after that. While the Sri Lankan Archeological Department dates the bridge to close to 2 million years old, Centre For Remote Sensing, Bharathidasan University dated it close to 3500 years old.
Few questions need to be asked:
1) First and foremost question is that whether the said bridge is man-made or a geological phenomenon.
2) If it were a geological phenomenon it would assume a great importance for geologists and scientists, making it very important for us to preserve it. It would probably become the oldest natural rock formation in India and the biggest and oldest natural rock formation of the world and the only one under the sea.
3) If it were man-made but not built by Rama, still it is of extreme importance as an archeological site. Probably it would classify as one of the man-made wonders of the world and the oldest ever man-made bridge to exist.
4) If archeologists and theologists can prove it to be anywhere closer related to Shri Rama, the importance would be the greatest, since it has a religious connotation and probably the biggest find relating the religion (especially Dharmic) and also of archeological importance attached with religion.
Answers to these questions would certainly direct us to only one conclusion %u2013 the Rama%u2019s Bridge should not be touched for demolition. It might/might not be a religious site, but it is certainly beyond even what we call as %u201Cprecious%u201D. It is a natural phenomenon which has surprised scientists and geologists by its sheer existence.
If Indian government tries demolishing Rama%u2019s bridge for enabling a shipping canal project, I might probably even think that the government might take Qutab Minar off the place because it disrupts traffic. I do not think the UPA government would want themselves to be equated with the Taliban who destroyed Bamiyan Budhas while the whole world witnessed.
RE:Ram Sethu
by Rahul P on Apr 16, 2007 05:59 PM Permalink
FOR ONCE, some1 else is also talkin sense,
The imp point here is,
There is a Masjid in Mahim, which causes a lot of traffice jam, will it be demolished? There is a masjid infront of Bandra station which causes lot of traffic jams during ramzan, will they STOP all that?
They should if we accept thier ideology, Sri Siddhivinayak temple is causing a lot of problems to the goverment. They have lot of issues for 1 TUESDAY.
Want to make 1 point, i think all religions are alike, Hindus, Parsis, Christans, etc.... only the goverment is doing this to show that they are fair to other religions, BY BEING unfair to Hindus. This goes specially for the UPA.
RE:Ram Sethu
by play on Apr 16, 2007 06:08 PM Permalink
There is no point important which you mentioned. You have a serious psche problem. Pls go and get yourself treated. Dont worry i will pay the bills this time.
RE:Ram Sethu
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 06:17 PM Permalink
play, everyone has some problem. But i know what's your problem and the ilk of you. You guys just can't stand me posting here. I can understand that. Your diversionary tricks will not work either.
Dear Hindu Friends/ Experts, The Question I am asking is not straight away related to the Topic, I will appreciate if you can clarify me... In my Child hood days I regularly watch Ramayana, in the climax fight between Rama and Ravana, every time when Rama sends the Arrow to Ravana, Ram will close eyes, look at the sky and pray before releasing the arrow. I presume that he is praying to the Almighthy in Heavens, my question is if he is praying to God, then how he can be god... I think he is a noble man or a Mahatma who lived in India, by time people have promoted him as god. Please clarify whether Ram is god or not.. Please give me genuine answers, I am trying to know the Truth.. Thanks Ibrahim...
RE:My Doubts
by pravin pandey on Apr 16, 2007 05:49 PM Permalink
Remember Ram was an incarnation of God Vishnu and not Vishnu himself. God has never been on this earth. The almighty has always sent his messenger. Its the same like "Mohammed the prophet being messenger of Alah and not allah himself. Ram, Krishna all were incarnations and not God. This has been clearly mentioned in "Gita".
RE:My Doubts
by dev gupta on Apr 16, 2007 05:55 PM Permalink
Dear Ibrahim, I would try to answer your query. See Shri Ram represents an Avtar to give an ideal example of human. He is called "Mariyada Purushuttam" means the one whose conduct is full of traditions and as per the rules stated by religion. He never ever in his era called himself as a god..He always worships lord Shiva (as per hindu religion Lord Shiva and Lord Rama who is avtaar of Lord Vishnu are best friends you can say and they are on the same position and worship/respect each other) so u see even before crossing the ocean, he worshipped Lord Shiva for 7 days and he looks at the sky to seek the blessings of Lord Shiva..but the main thing is that he is an avtar of Lord Vishnu and thru his conduct sets an example for us ,the human beings to obey elders, to keep promises, to assist bros/ to respect gurus and much more .. So if just for a sec , anyone feels his is not god by powers , he is a god by his actions .....
I hope, if not fully, i am able to solve some of your queries.
RE:My Doubts
by play on Apr 16, 2007 06:07 PM Permalink
Ok i can very much agree on the concept. But if the RSS is the protector of Hinduism than the ideology doesnt match that of Ram's charisma and character. Pls explain why this indifference.
RE:[object MouseEvent]
by dev gupta on Apr 17, 2007 06:18 PM Permalink
see i personally believe that as in today , org like RSS and simile Muslim org. ( i don%u2019t know the name) are none less that political parties .Though, many years back,they were formed with a noble cause to strengthen the community people but today their purpose have definitely changed .Thanks to the corrupted leaders. They no longer want to help people but just to show off that they exist and they care. They all say that lords ideals should be respected but why they let our gods to be printed on some papers , boxes,t shirts, packaging materials which after use are thrown in the dust bin . I really respect sikh religion that they are very concerned in such regards. The one who is supreme must be respected. Its a great pity that together we could very well conquer the world and America would be nothing if India and Pak are again united again into single county but our eyes are blind folded with the black cloth of hatred and foolishness....Honestly, i wont say that i like every Muslim or Hindu , i respect the one who is true to his humanity, his religion and his own inner soul... it doesn%u2019t mean that if i am a Hindu, Hinduism is the best religion or if i am a Muslim, Muslim is the best religion.... different religions existed because not all humans think the same and they moved into the like minded groups.. but still ,they all believe in one divine power .. That%u2019s a truth we cant deny..so i hope we stop fighting and unite again to give a tight punch to the US.
RE:My Doubts
by Ibrahim Sheik on Apr 16, 2007 06:17 PM Permalink
Here we go, Dear Pravin and Dev, you tried to explain the similarity between Islam and Hinduism. Islam firmly beleives that whenever there is a problem in this world, God has sent Prophets thru out the World. We Muslims beleive that Ram may be a Prophet of God, who preaches good words.. But the Irony is many a times, people Mis-interpret a Prophet with God. Candle has the same property of Sun but Candle is beyond equating. So Good people like you have God's Charecter but we cannot become God.. Thanks Ibrahim
RE:My Doubts
by dev gupta on Apr 17, 2007 06:06 PM Permalink
Hi Ibrahim, dost i dont know much abt the muslim religion but in Hindu religion we do believe that Ram u can say is synonym of God Vishnu ... because of his actions and birth history .. so he is none less than a god . Prophets i will say are various gurus who tell us the path . I hope i have made myself clear to you.
This is the basic problem of the Sanngh Parivar (Owners of Hindusim) that they have lots of crazy ideas in thier hypothetical mind. When we ask for proof they cant produce one. The worst thing is that it was cleared by the than NDA govt when it was in power and now B.J.P is just trying to keep something or the otherto keep the issue alive, so that they will be in news all the time. All these years after they lost power nobody cared for such a Hypothesis in the B.J.P and now all of a sudden the B.J.P and also the RSS is very CONCERNED.
It is a basic and a true fact the ideological engine of the RSS is mearly hypothesis and the exagiration of the correct facts and figures. If you zoom into their political agenda you will realise that most of the things which they proclaim is only done to garner support and power. They are very smart in all these things. Politicians (B.J.P) in search of votes prefer the war ticket to the peace flag. Peace is fuzzy while war is muscular. While common sense suggests that any voter should prefer peace, common experience tells us that the voter can be milked more easily with the promise of war when war is justified as the answer to that most evocative of emotions, fear. This is what has been the agenda and hypothesis of the RSS and the B.J.P. Be constantly on the news, create fear and apprehension, create a new set of enemy (Muslim) and blame the enemy for your failure to deliver. This type of political gimmick is very old in politcis and is played well by the B.J.P
The hypothesis or mear fantasy is the idea of the RSS. They wanted to just divert the attention of the people and portraying themselves as the custodian of the Hindu Religion. Because religion gan gain more power than any other weapon in this century and the RSS knows it very well. Now its time for the RSS to remember that, When the hypothesis begins to crumble, it does not fall on only one pillar. The erosion of credibility affects the whole base (RSS).
RE:Sang Cannot live without Hypothisis
by amit karle on Apr 16, 2007 05:41 PM Permalink
Only God will answer scroundlers who cheat and call Ramayan as fake and all other prophets of other religions as gods!
RE:Sang Cannot live without Hypothisis
by play on Apr 16, 2007 05:47 PM Permalink
Yes very much mr manoj, i agree to that and what you have said is absolutley right. What i am pointing out is that the RSS is trying to play a political game to keep some agenda alive. Instead of addressing the basic problems of the nation like employment, infrastructure,poverty the RSS is just trying to divert attention on something which is not benifitiing anybody.
RE:Sang Cannot live without Hypothisis
by play on Apr 16, 2007 06:20 PM Permalink
u dont have any work here? do you? so why bother me? u better do some work for the Sangh PArivar.
RE:Sang Cannot live without Hypothisis
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 06:26 PM Permalink
and play you work for Osama Bin Laden. Your terrorist scum.
RE:Adams Bridge ?
by Abhilash Nair on Apr 16, 2007 05:32 PM Permalink
GOOD QUESTION MR WADA PAV, DID ADAM CAME TO EARTH AND BUILT THE BRIDGE IN MEMORY OF EVE.
This Baalu is really a great piece. All those 72 pieces of stone-samples extracted from the Ram-sethu should be thrown down on his head. That will help good-senses to prevail on him.
RE:Baalu just wants to come to National limelight
by srinivasan mv on Apr 16, 2007 06:13 PM Permalink
Only truth is!! Balu earned lot of money on all projects!! He was just a government employee and owns ships, companies etc. The only truth is he made a lot of money.
All others are not true. Ram Sethu is not true. But the bloody DMK is trying to make money out of every project.
1. It explicitly creates irrational hierarchy among Indians which is against Article 14. 2. Parents covertly train their children to coerce other children as per the above hierarchies. I deplore any other religion that does this.
RE:Hinduism is the root of all evil in India.
by s on Apr 16, 2007 05:20 PM Permalink
And muslims only divided, looted & plundered it before & now also
