RE:The Bitter Truth
by Malakpet Rowdy on Apr 16, 2007 10:47 PM Permalink
One way this is correct .. the lack of Unity factor has hit the Hindus very hard. If you want to survive, you have to be united - right?
Get rid of these caste and regional factors - half the problems are solved!
My Rama (god Rama) is not the Rama of Ramayana". Mahatma Gandhi "The Ramayana and Mahabaratha are nothing but another Arabian Nights Story". Jawaharlal Nehru "Rama is not a god; but he is a hero" Rajagopalachari, First Governor-General of India and a great Brahmin leader.
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by David on Apr 17, 2007 03:53 AM Permalink
ok bhatt. we get it. quran is the truth. and bible is also the truth. but Hindu scripts are myths. gandhi was a coward so i dont mind mind his words. nehru - no wonder! thank him for not comparing Ramayana with disney cartoons.
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by bigfacts on Sep 21, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
I can also believe Spiderman, superman will be future gods. The way I believe Ram and Hanuman existed in mythology. by the way American superman can also fly and jump like Hanumanji.
Jai Sri Ramji.
Gandhiji , George Bush, Albert Einstein are avatars of Vishnu.
Many good stories to go with Historical frauds committed by Brahmins. It was livelihood and means of survival for them. In present logical opinion all the Aryan Gods are imaginary and fictitious. They were created to be superimposed on dravidian gods and temples. It is like MNCs presently doing business tricks to remain in profit. Brahmins did same thing to keep the temple business in their control.... this resulted in last 2000 years of historical frauds over dravidian history....
I am no dravid but trust only in history which has evidence and antiquity. I can't just go by fact that Ram was born 1 billion years ago and survived for 1 million years and had 10000 son and daughters....
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by Suresh Bhatt on Apr 16, 2007 08:18 PM Permalink
"Ramayan is not a divine story; it is only a literature" (Kaliyuga Kamban, T.K. Chidambaranatha Mudaliar).
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by Malakpet Rowdy on Apr 16, 2007 10:32 PM Permalink
Apes dont believe it because they are Apes - Humans are still debating about it - Nothing hasbeen said about whether it is Natural or Man-made. A better solution to this would be to wait until the truth is established.. if it is proved that its natural then one should have no objection to its destruction - but canBaalu exlpain the basis of the formation of the bridge naturally in the region not known for huge sand deposits?
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by on Apr 16, 2007 09:07 PM Permalink
There might be kernel of truth there, just as the Biblical stories have such underlying historical events. The miracle parts have been added through human imagination and yearning to find something beyond our regular existence.
The so called Hindu chauvanists unecessarily doing protests against this great project which gives more advantage to Tamil Naud and Tamils.
These Hindu chauvanists claim that Nasa has proof about this bridges, but Nasa just told there is a structure there, but it might not be built artificially by human beings, its a natural bridge, thats all, but these people told the bogus story Ramayana and claims this bridge is built by Rama's Varana, thats a great joke. Some natural questions to Hindu Chauvanists only not all hindu(even Im a hindu).
1. How come monkeies build a bridge? 2. No Human beings to build the bridge at that time? 3. If Ravana has Puspak Viman, why not Rama as he is the lord?
Ha ha ha, There is nothing called Ramayana or Mahabaratha, it all just bogus, imaginary story, Its another movie or noval, thats all....
RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by Jas Sand on Apr 16, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
1. The ape man existed during ramayana period 2. Same as 1. 3. Rama was not the lord during Vanavas but Ravana was the emperor.
Had the Non Hindus in the guise of Hindus like you, read the literature first the questions would have mode more sense ha ha ha!
RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by kan on Apr 16, 2007 08:18 PM Permalink
Ha ha ha, good joke from idiots like you. If Rama and Krishna had satelites, missles, mobiles etc, please show me their palace or some temple built in that age, if a bridge exists inside the sea, why not a structure in the land, show one evidence anywhere in the world.
Till foolish people like you exists, the religion fight will never end, and the barbaric groups like Shivasena, RSS and BJP will keep on grow.
RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by Malakpet Rowdy on Apr 16, 2007 10:26 PM Permalink
The Light Combat Aircraft built by DRDO had many of its principles based on Vaimanika Shastra written by Maharshi Bhardwaj and this saint is believed to have lived during Ramayana period and his book dates back to the same period. The book is available in many libraries.
RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by suhas natyan on Apr 16, 2007 08:52 PM Permalink
with such comments, you cant be a HINDU.It is better not to discuss anything with a person like you
RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by TAU on Apr 16, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
Foolish people react like U, Do you think that human race is only 2-3000 years old? If not than only those people are intelligent who were born between 1800- 2000AD? Dear Kan It is reoccuring phenomenon. People in Rama or Krishna time not only had aeroplanes but remote control missiles and anti missiles, atom bombs, mobile phones, satellites and some other gadgets which you will get in next 20-40 years. After that human race will again start from development from scratch. From your modern science also your fore fathers were monkeys and I am sure they could make bridges.
RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by eagle on Apr 16, 2007 08:16 PM Permalink
What the heck is wrong with the idiot above. He must be living in a dream world or probably read a modernised version of ramayana with rama talking on chat and cellfone with sita. What the heck. He idiot put your head in ice water.
or probably your brain is already frozen. Tau Tau Tau!
Supreme court has already taken 50 years to find / reject proofs of Rama birth place (Ram mandir), Mr. Balu has not taken any time to reject Ram Setu existence. Good mind set. Anyway if the project helps India or Indians it should be completed fast even if there was any existance of Ram setu.
The so called Hindu chauvanists unecessarily doing protests against this great project which gives more advantage to Tamil Naud and Tamils.
These Hindu chauvanists claim that Nasa has proof about this bridges, but Nasa just told there is a structure there, but it might not be built artificially by human beings, its a natural bridge, thats all, but these people told the bogus story Ramayana and claims this bridge is built by Rama's Varana, thats a great joke. Some natural questions to Hindu Chauvanists only not all hindu(even Im a hindu).
1. How come monkeies build a bridge? 2. No Human beings to build the bridge at that time? 3. If Ravana has Puspak Viman, why not Rama as he is the lord?
Ha ha ha, There is nothing called Ramayana or Mahabaratha, it all just bogus, imaginary story, Its another movie or noval, thats all....
RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by Mohan Raj on Apr 16, 2007 07:47 PM Permalink
As for a person who dons the rationalist mask ,I am surprised at your question How come Monkeys built a bridge ? Go back to school and read your Darwin ! You and I are descended from Monkeys .
All that we know is that we do not know enough . We should not destroy something that had survived for thousands of years .Let it be man made or nature made.
Future generations have to have the opportunity to see and evaluate for themselves that whether the structure is man made or not . We should do the construction in a environmentally friendly way
RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 07:23 PM Permalink
Excerpts from Ramayana and Mahabharata on Sethu Mandir heritage Valmiki describes in the Great Epic, Ramayana, the construction of Sethu in detail. %u201CHe sings with gusto of the noise and confusion of the gigantic project. The Vaanaras (special tribes in the southern regions having features such as prominent and strong jaws) went to the mountains and forests and, plucking rocks and trees, dragged them to the shore. The bigger Vaanaras brought big boulders and threw them into the sea. As they fell down, the water splashed sky-high. Nala%u2014Vishwakarma%u2019s son and the project leader%u2014stood and supervised their labours. The leaders in charge of companies kept them active. On the top of the rocks and trees, when the base was firm, a dressing of grass and little pieces of wood was given to produce a level surface. The noise raised by the dam-builders drowned the roar of the ocean. The construction was complete. The new path shone across the sea like the milky way in the sky.%u201D [Ref.: C. Rajagopalachari, Ramayana, Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, Bombay, 29th Edition, 1996, p. 274-275). The Sethu Mandir is a sacred monument because of its association with Shri Rama who said: Mother and Motherland are greater than heaven. (Jananee janmabhoomischa swargaadapi gareeyasi).
Ram Sethu is referred to as Nala%u2019s Bridge in the Great Epic, Mahabharata: %u201Cwhich even today, popular on earth as Nala%u2019s bridge, mountain-like, is sustained out of respect for [Lord] Rama%u2019s command. (Nala was son of Viswakarma) (MBh. 3.267.45)
RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by Senthil Gounder on Apr 16, 2007 07:35 PM Permalink
Hi, When you can protest over the breaking of periyar statue, what's wrong in protest over the breaking of sethu bridge. Its cowards like you, who is playing with the sentiments of the people. More than half of indian people believe in this ramar bridge, and you dont heed to those persons.
RE:RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by jet on Apr 16, 2007 07:59 PM Permalink
kan, ur an asshole.. Millions of people's sentiments are related with Ram Sethu, I doubt ur hindu credentials. If it was a minority related thing people like u would have supported it and the govt also would have jumped to support it. When there are other alternatives why dont they use it. Evrey body knows how much DMK is anti-hindu. People like u should be kicked and thrown in to that sea.
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by kan on Apr 16, 2007 07:31 PM Permalink
There is not the source of Vallmiki Ramayana, it was all just heared by people and spreaded by mouth thats all. Everyone knows how communications by mouth happens in India, if it is 1 they'll communicate as 100 then 1000, then it'll grow like anything. Thats how Ramayana and Mahabaratha grown, to maintain Hindu idelology few people like Gandhi, Rajaji worte reference books. But that cannot be the reliable proof of existence of Ramayana, Rama, Mahabarataha or Adams bridge.....
RE:Well said Mr. Balu...
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 07:35 PM Permalink
As in many oral epics, multiple versions of the Ramayana survive. In particular, the Ramayana related in north India differs in important respects from that preserved in South India and the rest of South-East Asia. There is an extensive tradition of oral storytelling based on the Ramayana in Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia, Laos, Vietnam, and Indonesia.
In many Malay language versions, Lakshmana is given greater importance than Rama, whose character is considered somewhat weak.
[edit] Within India
There are diverse regional versions of the Ramayana written by various authors in India. Some of them differ significantly from each other. During the twelfth century AD, Kamban wrote Ramavatharam, known popularly as Kambaramayanam in Tamil. Although based on Valmiki Ramayana , Kambaramayanam is a true classic and unique in that Kamban has modified and reinterpreted many anecdotes in Valmiki Ramayana to suit the Tamil culture and his own ideas.[18] Valmiki's Ramayana inspired the Sri Ramacharit Manas by Tulasidas in 1576 , an epic Awadhi (a dialect of Hindi) version with a slant more grounded in a different realm of Hindu literature, that of bhakti. It is an acknowledged masterpiece of India. It is popularly known as Tulsi-krita Ramayana. Gujarati poet Premanand wrote a version of Ramayana in the 17th century. Other versions include, a Bengali version by Krittivas in the 14th century, in Oriya by Balarama Das in the 16th century, in Marathi by Sridhara in the 18th century, a Telugu version by Ranganatha in the 15th century, a Kannada Ramayana by the 16th century poet Narahari, Kotha Ramayana in Assamese by the 14th century poet Madhava Kandali and Adhyathma Ramayanam Kilippattu, a Malayalam version by Thunchaththu Ezhuthachan in the 16th century.
There is a sub-plot to Ramayana, prevalent in some parts of India relates to the adventures of Ahi Ravana and Mahi Ravana, the evil brother of Ravana, which enhances the role of Hanuman in the story. Hanuman rescues Rama and Lakshmana after they are kidnapped by the Ahi-mahi Ravana at the behest of Ravana and held prisoner in a subterranean cave, ready to be sacrificed to the goddess Kali.
There have been reports of a version of the Ramayana story prevalent amongst the Mappilas of Kerala.[19] This version, known as Mappila Ramayana, forms a part of the Mappillapattu. Mappillapattu is a genre of folk singing popular amonst the musims of Kerala and Lakshadweep. Being of Muslim origin, the hero of this story is a sultan. There are no major changes in the names of characters except for that of Rama's which is changed to `Laman'. The language and the imagery projected in the Mappilapattu are in accordance with the social fabric of the earlier Muslim community.
[edit] Southeast Asian versions
Many other Asian cultures have adapted the Ramayana, resulting in other national epics. Kakawin R%u0101mâya%u1E47a is an old Javanese rendering of the Sanskrit Ramayana from ninth century Indonesia. It is a faithful rendering of the Hindu epic with very little variation. Phra Lak Phra Lam is a Lao language version, whose title comes from Lakshmana and Rama. The story of Lakshmana and Rama is told as the previous life of the Buddha. In Hikayat Seri Rama of Malaysia, Dasharatha is the great-grandson of the Prophet Adam. Ravana receives boons from Allah instead of Brahma.[20]
Thailand's popular national epic Ramakien is derived from the Hindu epic. In Ramakien, Sita is the daughter of Ravana and Mandodari (T'os'akanth (=Dasakand) and Mont'o). Vibhisana (P'ip'ek), the astrologer brother of Ravana, predicts calamity from the horoscope of Sita. So Ravana has her thrown into the waters, who, later, is picked by Janaka (Janok). While the main story is identical to that of the Ramayana, many other aspects were transposed into a Thai context, such as the clothes, weapons, topography, and elements of nature, which are described as being Thai in style. It has an expanded role for Hanuman and he is portrayed as a lascivious character. Ramakien can be seen in an elaborate illustration at the Wat Phra Kaew temple in Bangkok.
Other Southeast Asian adaptations include Ramakavaca of Bali, Maradia Lawana of the Philippines, the Reamker of Cambodia and the Yama Zatdaw of Myanmar. Aspects of the Chinese epic Journey to the West were also inspired by the Ramayana, particularly the character Sun Wukong, who is believed to have been based on Hanuman.
[edit] Contemporary versions
Contemporary versions of the Ramayana include Sri Ramayana Darshanam by Dr. K. V. Puttappa (Kuvempu) in Kannada and Ramayana Kalpavrikshamu by Viswanatha Satyanarayana in Telugu, both of which have been awarded the Jnanpith Award. A prose version called Geet Ramayan (Geet = song) in Marathi by G.D. (Gajanan Digambar) Madgulkar (also known as Ga Di Madgulkar or GaDiMA) was rendered in Music by Sudhir Phadke and is considered to be a masterpiece of Marathi literature.
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by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 07:27 PM Permalink
Strategic and maritime implications When several alternative routes that do not destroy the very ancient monument of Ram Sethu are available, why was an alignment arbitrarily decided upon, which cuts across the Ram Sethu, ignoring the views expressed by environmentalists, seismologists, oceanographers and concerns of people living along the coastline? Was the Indian Navy consulted on geostrategic maritime implications (of sea-lanes between Straits of Hormuz - Persian Gulf - and Straits of Malacca - Singapore-close to Diego Garcia and the Trincomalee base with very low-frequency radio waves to monitor submarine movements), before the project was inaugurated? Why destroy a barrier which had, in fact, saved the coastline of Bharat during the last tsunami? Why not use the opportunity to re-assert India%u2019s geo-strategic responsibility in guarding the sealanes? (See Annex 4)
I look forward to an opportunity to discuss with you on this important matter, before raising the issue in Parliament for a detailed discussion and if necessary, demanding the constitution of a Parliamentary Enquiry Committee.
Views of Prof. Tad S. Murthy Prof. Murthy says: %u201CDuring the Indian Ocean tsunami of December 26, 2004, the very southern part of Kerala was generally spared from a major tsunami, mainly because the tsunami waves from Sumatra region travelling south of the Sri Lankan Island, partially diffracted northward and affected the central part of the Kerala coast. Since tsunami is a long gravity wave (similar to tides and storm surges) during the diffraction process, the rather wide turn it has to take spared south Kerala coast. On the other hand, deepening the Sethu Canal might provide a more direct route for the tsunami and this could impact south Kerala. In late 2005 I had a face-to-face discussion in Chennai during a very cordial meeting with Shri Raghupathy (I do not know his exact title, but he is the head of the project, to the best of my knowledge) during which I raised this point. I requested him to consider slightly re-orienting the entrance of the Sethu canal on the Bay of Bengal side, so that in future tsunami events, tsunami energy will not be preferentially funnelled into the Sethu canal. Shri Raghupathy assured me that he will look into this matter. When a senior IAS officer like Shri Raghupathy says something, I beleive him and I have no further concerns on this matter.%u201D
Prof. Murthy had also noted: %u201C(This view of TPT that no re-alignment is necessary) I absolutely disagree with. I have analysed the problem to my complete satisfaction.%u201D He cited the example of the Alberni canal on Vancouver Island in British Columbia.%u201DThe Sethusamudram canal has many characteristics similar to the Alberni canal, and this is the reason I am concerned. In the March 28, 1964, Alaska earthquake tsunami, outside of Alaska the largest tsunami amplitude was at the head of the Alberni canal well inland and not at the open coast as everyone expected. Later, I explained this was due to (a phenomenon known as) quarter wave resonance amplification%u201D.
%u2022 NEERI (environment) and NIOT (sea-depth or bathymetry) reviews did NOT take into account the impact of tsunami, which happened on December 26, 2006, two years after NEERI evaluation. It should be noted that the tsunami has radically altered the bathymetry (sea-depth) of the region. The core samples should be subjected to detailed geological analysis for possible nuclear and other mineral content.
Implications for nation%u2019s nuclear programme and under-sea mineral resource mapping Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) website notes: %u201CThe currently known Indian thorium reserves amount to 358,000 GWe-yr of electrical energy and can easily meet the energy requirements during the next century and beyond. U-233/Th-232 based breeder reactors are under development and would serve as the mainstay of the final thorium utilisation stage of the Indian nuclear programme.%u201D (www.barc.ernet.in)
A team of scientists led by Dr V.J. Loveson of the Council for Industrial and Scientific Research (CISR) New Delhi, studying placer deposits in the area, note that an estimated 40 million tonnes of Titanium alone has been deposited in the entire stretch of 500 kilometer coastline. Tsunami of December 2004 has changed bathymetry (sea-depth) of the region. Thus, all alignments related to SSCP should be subjected to a fresh re-evaluation with particular reference to the mineral resources which are the mainstay of India%u2019s nuclear programme.
Close to Ram Sethu, natural radioactivity from the black thorium sands of Kerala (India) is accelerating the DNA mutation rate in the local population. Most of these new mutations have hit the same DNA positions that have mutated naturally in at least the past 60,000 years of human evolution.
Strategic implications of SSCP The following US Navy operational directive distinguishing international and historic waters may be noted: Aug 76 Act No. 80 enables government to declare waters as historic. Jun 79 Law No. 41; Waters of Palk Bay between coast and boundary with Sri Lanka claimed as internal waters; waters of Gulf of Mannar between coast and maritime boundary claimed as historic waters. This claim is not recognised by the United States. U.S. conducted operational assertions in 1993 and 1994 to Gulf of Mannar claim in 1999.
It needs to be underscored that India should assert its strategic responsibility in providing security in these historic waters for sea-faring vessels, maritime traders apart from the protection of the environmental wealth of coral reefs and algae (ayurvedic herbals also contributing to photosynthesis of oxygen cycle) which provide for livelihood of millions of coastal people. The Sethusamudram Project, envisages that ships upto a maximum of 32,000 Dead Weight Tonnes (DWT) only would be able to pass through the canal. However, the bulk of the vessels using the International Shipping routes, East- and West-bound, from South of Sri Lanka, are of higher DWT and will thus not traverse through the SSCP. If that be the case, one wonders at the economic viability of the SSCP in its totality. Is it, therefore, a project meant only for the coal-carrying vessels from Haldia/Paradip/Visakhapatnam to Tuiticorin or the Feeder Container Vessels that ply between our ports and Colombo? Another aspect that I would like to invite your attention, relates to the construction of the %u2018dredged canal%u2019. As the sides of the canal cannot be lined or protected by any artificial wall, a strong tidal wave is enough to level the canal. May I query, what then happens to the Rs 2,000 crore capital spent on dredging? Further, I am given to understand that it will be almost impossible for the dredgers to operate between the months of October to December because of the cyclonic season, strong winds and tidal waves. It will be more a battle against the forces of Mother Nature in that period rather than maintenance of the canal.%u201D
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by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 07:30 PM Permalink
That was an excerpt from Dr Murli Manohar Joshi%u2019s letter few weeks back to the Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh.
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by kan on Apr 16, 2007 07:32 PM Permalink
Murali Manohar Joshi is a man who doesnt even know the difference between Flower Pot water and cool drink, he just drunk a water from flower pot when he atteneded a function in TN few years back.
How come this non-sense guy knows about this story..
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by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 07:37 PM Permalink
why don't you read some history instead of posting your inane blather here. I think Manohar Joshi is more qualified in Hindu religious theology and history than a guy like you who talks nonsense.
RE:Read the book from Amazon
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
Valmiki wrote the ramayana who lived during ram's time. According to wikipedia, Ashok Banker's Ramayana is "A contemporary novel, it is an epic hard science fiction story about a war between the gods of different faiths. Weary of the constant infighting between religious sects and their deities, God (aka Allah, Yahweh, brahman, or whatever one chooses to call the Supreme Deity) wishes to destroy creation altogether." That says it all. It's contemporary fiction. Hindus have respect for valmiki's ramayana, not this Banker's fiction.
RE:Read the book from Amazon
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 07:01 PM Permalink
valmiki was from untouchables of that time. That is one of the beauty about Ramayana.
RE:Read the book from Amazon
by manoj on Apr 16, 2007 07:03 PM Permalink
Valmiki's ramayana is not in english so Ashok K banker has written Ramayana based on Valmiki edition. Just read the book then comment.
RE:Read the book from Amazon
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 07:07 PM Permalink
why are you posting such crap here? this article has to do with ram sethu and ramayana. I don't think it's funny when you recommend some remix version of some guy whose credentials does not include being a scientific researcher.
RE:Read the book from Amazon
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 07:17 PM Permalink
over the years many English translations of Ramayana have been made. This is one of the first available translations -
RÁMÁYAN OF VÁLMÍKI RALPH T. H. GRIFFITH, M. A., [1870-1874]
Wake up friends,today the real issue are global warming,pollution and corruption.Political leaders and fantics keep eangage minds for there pocket.have they talk about real issue related to quality of human life.what do you do if yo contruct temples in every corner, if tusmania or floods occurs.Try to live in realastic life and hypo world
RE:Wake Up
by chaitanya kumar on Apr 16, 2007 06:32 PM Permalink
your arguement is skewed. There is scientific proof to show that if the dredging is done and the structure removed there will be serious damage to kerala and TN if tsunami hits again. The recent tsunami will be mild in comparison to that.
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by girish s on Apr 16, 2007 07:41 PM Permalink
Wut scientific proof? There is no way to even predict the occurance or nature of an earthquake or tsunami.
Adam's Bridge, also called Rama's Bridge is a chain of limestone shoals, between the islands of Mannar, near northwestern Sri Lanka, and Rameswaram, off the southeastern coast of India. The bridge is 30 miles (48 km) long and separates the Gulf of Mannar (southwest) from the Palk Strait (northeast). Some of the sandbanks are dry and the sea in the area is very shallow, being only 3 ft to 30 ft (1 m to 10 m) deep. This seriously hinders navigation. It was reportedly passable on foot up to the 15th century until storms deepened the channel: temple records seem to say that Rama%u2019s Bridge was complete above sea level until it broke in a cyclone in 1480 AD.
RE:Check wikipedia
by kan on Apr 16, 2007 07:23 PM Permalink
From the same link....
However, NASA has distanced itself from the claims related to the epic Ramayana:
"The images may be ours, but their interpretation is certainly not ours. Remote sensing images or photographs from orbit cannot provide direct information about the origin or age of a chain of islands, and certainly cannot determine whether humans were involved in producing any of the patterns seen."[2]
RE:Check wikipedia
by on Apr 16, 2007 09:06 PM Permalink
True. It is just that it is likely that the chain already existed, and humans wrapped a story around it. Perhaps during Rama's time (or equivalent sb's time), there was a crossing possible, and later it was given mythological twists.
This Balu is from so-called pseudo atheist group. Can v expect anything better from him. he himself told in a meeting that he is ashamed for having born as a HINDU. Then who stops him from becoming a Muslim or Christian. He will lose his caste tag. his party will do anything to capture the votes and stay in power, even to the extent of pledging their women-folk. leave alone religion.
