The agents in India like Indman Services, J M Mehta, Asia Men Power and many others like this in Mumbai & elsewhere are exploiting the poor Indians like anything. These agents send thousands of labourers to Gulf Nations every months. They charge around Rs 70,000 to Rs 1,00,000 per head to provide their services. The poor labourers take loans from relatives & elsewhere or sell their property to come to these countries. The labourers think that Gulf is paradise and once they come here they will clear the loan in no time. But the situations are very different. The unskilled labourer earns Rs 4500/ per month for his 10 hours daily job. The skilled labourer like mason and carpenter earns Rs 7200/- per month for his 10 hours daily job. To earn more money they work overtime, atleast 5 to 6 hours extra. That fetches them another 3000 per month extra but takes away 10 years of life in one year. These people have to live in a very wretched conditions. The accomodation provided is such that one room is occupied by 16 to 20 labourers. Considering the expenses of these labourers here, they need to work atleast for 2 years just to pay the agents fees. These labourers in India can earn far better and stay with their families. More than the need of Indian people, it is the need of these Nations that Indians should work here.
How can we stop these agents from exploiting the uneducated and poor labourers. There are labourers coming here from other countries like Phillipines. They do not need to pay any money to their agents. The air ticket for them is provided by the companies that hire them. But for Indian labourers, the companies do not give the initial air ticket as they know the agents take money from them.
Dear friends, we spend a lot of time in discussing issues that do not really make positive difference to India. But if somebody can advise here how we can address this issue of exploitation of poor labourers, we can do something positive. Please bear in mind, the exploitation is done by our own Indians on Indian soil by some greedy agents thus taking out life of poor people.
If we can make our Govt to note this and do something, we will have achieved a great in our lives. Many of the people may be knowing people in media. If we can bring this issue through media, I think we can achieve some positive results in this.
RE:Too much Exploitation
by ashok leyland on Apr 15, 2007 01:04 AM Permalink
Press the govt. to act. Get the media to do their job. Instead of gossiping and copying news from outside sources, our journalists should learn to do real reporting, help our people by denouncing such scoundrels. The international news item about a small incident in Milan when police fined a Chinese woman for her car not being checked as per law should teach us a lesson. The Chinese protested, the police intervened with batons, there was a clash between police and Chinese shop owners, the Chinese consul immediately (not taking his own sweet time),came to the scene to protect his countrymen and made a statement to the media. The Chinese PM wrote a letter the same day expressing formal protest and asking the Italian PM for an immediate explanation why his people are being treated like that. Can you immagine Manmohan Singh or even the Italian Embassy protesting or coming into the picture to save Indians from being cheated, treated badly or being denied their rights? Your answer can only be "NO". Not one Indian politician will take a stand to protect his own voters. Till he can milk them for their votes, it's OK but does he ever give back anything? NO.
That's why the agents can get away cheating the ingnorant labour class. The desire to be given some dignified and decent way of making a living is what makes Indians at ALL levels, the perfect prey for unscruplous agencies, agents and employers. Those of you who live outside MUST press and create a big noise to force our press to take a position and press for social justice. Will Rediff take up the challenge?
I have been in the gulf for close to three years and couln't agree with you more. There is exploitation everywhere. Right from unscrupulous agents to companies. Everyday there is at least one worker at the airport who has been tricked by the agent and has no where to go. The politicians too share part of the blame. They come to gulf seeking money. All big talk but hardly any action. We also have a minister for overseas indian affairs. But the things on the ground are hardly improving. It's high time one starts taking up the crudgels (at least by communicating in such such fora). This would increase awareness and caution people for succumbling to gulf dreams, Thanks
social rewards, our Indian psyche or emotional intelligence of thinking working abroad is better...and financial rewards, earned dollars buying more goods and services in India...so salary earned in other country can buy more in India...and I wouldnt be surprised if India is totally bought by these people who earn foreign currencies...dont know why a labor logged for an american company should earn so much in Indian terms...some holes in economics...
RE:Its social and financially rewards that attract Indians...
by unmesh risbud on Apr 14, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
to dinesh arora, its really good 0bservation sadashiv
frenz, US does nothing. hardware n peripherals from Asia. software from the world. labour from Latin America If US truly wans GLOBALIZATION, discard exploitative CUREENCY rate. Put 1 $ to 1 Rupee or 1 Euro $. None would migrate. Its RE-COLONISATION by few Anglo-American BANKERS. Look, they have put Tatas and Parekh on the dirrector board of Reserve Bank of India. Making my RESERVE BANK another PRIVATE indo-US FEDERAL RESERVE. You pretty MIDDLE-CLASS FOOLS, Namaskar and Ram Ram. S A D A S H I V
RE:its ANGLO-AMERICAN bankeers who rule the world
by Deceptive Swine on Apr 14, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
If I understand you right you mean to say that the Anglo-Saxon Capitalism is looting the world thro' their Financial Supremacy of Neo-Colonisation. This has been in vogue for the last 300 years. Look they won the second world war and it is but natural that winners takes all. Better learn to live in this uni-polar world. This is what US wants to tell the world.
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by unmesh risbud on Apr 14, 2007 11:18 AM Permalink
to DECEPTIVE SWINE, good that you know, bad that we have a PM and FM who are stooges of the WORLD BANK. Well, the Unipolar world would soon end. sadashiv
RE:its ANGLO-AMERICAN bankeers who rule the world
by Deceptive Swine on Apr 14, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
PM and FM have no other choice. Do you wish to be bombed to stone age like Iraq or nuked like Japan? This is the easy way out (although may not be palatable culturally).
RE:RE:its ANGLO-AMERICAN bankeers who rule the world
by unmesh risbud on Apr 14, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
NOT NECESSARY. we Indians have become so meek that we dont need even a STICK. Our so called intelligent are given the CARROTS. Rest can't think. Sadashiv
RE:its ANGLO-AMERICAN bankeers who rule the world
by unmesh risbud on Apr 14, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
well, I would like to tell yogesh and ken 1.Its basket of currencies deteremine the rate of exchange. what's that? who does that? 2.Its simple Mr. Ken. If you wan to remove the taxes/duties as part of the GLOBALIZATION move, then why not remove the barrier of different currencies. pl ken, specify still the unclear part.
RE:its ANGLO-AMERICAN bankeers who rule the world
by AandTattey on Apr 14, 2007 11:24 AM Permalink
Even 1$=Rs40, becoming will take atleast 30-40 more years from now.
RE:its ANGLO-AMERICAN bankeers who rule the world
by mr yogeesh soundarya raj on Apr 14, 2007 10:58 AM Permalink
man in reality according to cost of living the real effetive exchange rate of doller is 12-4 rupees so dont expect doller to be equal to rupee.we can bring it out to 24 rupees but the information tecnology people wont leve it to happen.
RE:its ANGLO-AMERICAN bankeers who rule the world
by ItsMe on Apr 14, 2007 11:03 AM Permalink
you do not understand economics. our currency rate is in our control. we can change it when we want. you make $1=Rs1 and the one rupee chocolate in india will cost Rs 40.
RE:RE:its ANGLO-AMERICAN bankeers who rule the world
by unmesh risbud on Apr 14, 2007 11:15 AM Permalink
TO itsME, TELL me the economics if i don't understand. Read my resources content and not just currency. you dont breath by eating currency nor travel on a currency note. dont give so much significance to curency as we gave to BRAHMA. Its another SLAVISH SUPERSTITION. Shed all western economic superstitions. Its Asians who provide oil,labour and IT skill(euphesism for CLERICAL work done on the computers, nothing extra-ordinary is done) come on accept the truths. its like accepting the premise that earth is round. All currencies be equal. sadashiv
RE:its ANGLO-AMERICAN bankeers who rule the world
by educationforu on Apr 14, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
and then u'll say put gold = silver = bronze......hehehehe.....for a sec i thought u were being funny...then i read ur response to the replies & god....i found u more funny....hehehehe ur logic is akin to saying that print more currency notes & distribute amongst ppl....everybody will b rich.....hehehehehe....
do u also feel that while the worls hadn't heard of globalization.....we had a better quality of life....as was seen by women spending a lot of time fetching water from the community taps & doing the laundry by hand...hehehehe......or that da exploitation is not by the rich of the poor but by american of indians ? haven't u heard any of the zamindari narratives ?
oh sadashiv....education is expensive but c what the lack of it has done 2 u......
RE:its ANGLO-AMERICAN bankeers who rule the world
by unmesh risbud on Apr 14, 2007 06:39 PM Permalink
to educationforu, 1.do u know who prinz US $? 2.Do u know that just as WHITES conquered America, our land is being purchased by the diffence in the currencies? RELIANCES,TATAS,SEZs 3.Go to rural areas, life has not improved. IT SEEMS YOU ARE THE ONE WHO HAS BEEN IN urban elite educated in a CAPITATION COLLEGE by paying hefty donations. Whats GLOBILIZATION ? REST OF THE WORLD,(including EDUCATIONORU) WASH U S underxxxx BY OUTSOURCING.
IT IS NOT u who write, its $ you get and fear of losing that, writes.
This is going on since... We all highlight the achievement for previledged few, but majority always suffer. In USA manjority Indiand are well off compared to what??? India?? Why consider India when they are in US. See their standars and standard of Living in there and compare it with local Whites. In UK last week a legislation was passed for Uniform pay scale between Whites so you can imagine if inequality persists between Whites what could be the fate of other Aliens as they are called. Can't they say foreigners???? White in US & UK are the most hypocrates in the world. Because of over population and slow economic growth we suffered so far, but not any more.... hope so.
RE:RE:US Officials...
by Ken on Apr 14, 2007 11:01 AM Permalink
Not so simple sir... Apparently, even with biased pay scales and discrimination otherwise, indians seem to want to move abroad... At least that's what it seems like!
Our society seems to desire and envy those with overseas jobs - at any level. This time it is the US, but more often workers in the Middle East work in tough conditions. Back home the hardships are not mentioned, but money flashed. This creates temptations for a "foreign" job and many people pay to get one.
Unfortunate, but this will not stop till more, employment at decent wages can be generated across the country.
On the exploitation, that will not stop as long as we ourselves beg to be exploited.
RE:We want
by Ken on Apr 14, 2007 11:03 AM Permalink
Exactly... "On the exploitation, that will not stop as long as we ourselves beg to be exploited." - this is the key point!
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by AandTattey on Apr 14, 2007 10:30 AM Permalink
Correction: Agreed with Deceptive Swine view. They are really opportunist and exploit all...
RE:RE:[object]
by Ken on Apr 14, 2007 11:06 AM Permalink
Pt is - y do ppl want to go to USA? y give chance for US to exploit at all? The answer to this is key! An over populated country with millions longing for basic necessities cannot really insulate itself from exploitation - either from within or from external sources
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by Deceptive Swine on Apr 14, 2007 11:59 AM Permalink
Ask the American Blacks why their forefathers were shipped to US in Slave Ships. If US does not permit free exchange of labour then why should they export Capital? They want to have the cake and eat it too?
RE:That is USA
by Eisen Philip Picardo on Apr 14, 2007 10:24 AM Permalink
If u havent been there dont say tht. U in a way are creating a racial slur.Its like Bal thackeray who hasent travelled abroad..sits here in India and makes nasty comments about the world outside. US is not particularly whats advertised. Just like you feel India is not as advertised.
RE:That is USA
by Nikil Immatty on Apr 14, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
hey elsen, i'm working in canada right now and i think what he said was partially right. well, atleast the article is true and i know how hard it gets for a foreign worker to start a living in a country especially like the US.
i think the the world knows better what US is. they don't have to come to the US to know about it. it's 2007. hope u are living in the present..
Why Kalpan Chawala and Sunita Williams excelled; Dr. Amratheya Sen got Nobel Prize, Dr. Sam Pitroda Conqurred and set revolution in Tele-communication,here in India, look at the best of Multinationals in America- thier heads are mostly Indians;Microsoft-World Best Computer Software firm has more then 28% of employees are Indians; India's Patelbhai and Motel are thriving business in USA.
Go to any India's International airport, all the plane's carry 365days Indian students, IT professionals, doctors, engineers and others to Destination AMERICA!!!.
So, what are u talking...?
American's have now extended the hand of Friendship to Indian's and our people must shed that lathergy, lazy up-bringing and look at the enormous opportunity, economic well-being and elevated social status, the Land of Golden opportunity USA offer's to thos who work hard.
The only alternative to excell in USA is HardWork - yes, there is no place for laousy, lazy and lathergic India's!!!.
This is pure truth and reality and let Indian not live in dream world and suffer.
RE:INDIANS & LAND OF FORTUNE - AMERICA CALLING
by ravdeepak cheema on Apr 14, 2007 10:25 AM Permalink
U r right hardwork is must here, But topic is diffrent
RE:INDIANS & LAND OF FORTUNE - AMERICA CALLING
by Nikil Immatty on Apr 14, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
if you are that hard-working why don't you work hard and do something good for your own home country rather than talking about all this? it's not your fault sudhakar. i know there are millions like you who just take everything from india from education to living and live for other countries especially destination USA as you said. but that has always been the history of this wonderful land. it's always been exploited again and again and again. the only difference is that in the past it was foreigners and now it's been done by our own people. it's actually a shame..
this was exactly the kind of things i had on my mind and i felt very bad.. as a matter of fact i'm returning to india in 3 months to start my own business. and you should know that this is as funky as it sounds because of my urge to do something for and in my own land...
RE:INDIANS & LAND OF FORTUNE - AMERICA CALLING
by Sukhen Mitra on Apr 14, 2007 10:48 AM Permalink
I don't feel anything wrong against Americans in most cases but they are also not perfect. Besides, people are just people. Americans might have some reasons too and many Indians have illegally overstayed in USA - this is hard fact, we can't deny. I take exeption in one thing - The Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences awarded the 1998 Bank of Sweden Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel, to Professor Amartya Sen, Trinity College, Cambridge, U.K. (citizen of India) refer http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/economics/laureates/1998/press.html. I have got nothing against Dr Sen but I am just stating the fact.
