all the politicians will drown India to gloom and India needs a revolution, a Blood revolution ,if Indians want to retain a privilege of being a respected society community or India wants to be superpower.A revolution to ousted all the devilish politicians from the soil of India. India needs a strong political leadership, a confident, a strong , a unbiased and progressive leadership.
RE:Upliftment of Minorities
by Sriram Vangal on Apr 15, 2007 03:01 PM Permalink
If you decide you will dress differently, read differently, write differently, do every thing differently, you will be isolated. Learn to live in a society, toleerating others and others will tolerate you.
RE:Upliftment of Minorities
by Sriram Vangal on Apr 15, 2007 03:03 PM Permalink
You ruled us for the best part of the last 1000 years. I wonder why is it you are still backward. Look for the answer with in yourself. Come out of the GHETTO mentality. You will move forward.
RE:Upliftment of Minorities
by Indi hindi on Apr 15, 2007 03:09 PM Permalink
Dont blame muslims for your backwardness. Before doeing that look at the discrepancies of your own community escpecially the caste system. Look what it has done to you all.
It your own coomunity which is responisble for the problems that you are facing today. Where as muslims has been completley sidelined and rejected largely because of the dicriminatory attitudueds by some vested intrests in this country.
RE:RE:Upliftment of Minorities
by Ram Sharma on Apr 15, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
No one except some fundamentalist Hindus have discriminatory attitude towards Muslims. It is the other way round. Muslims are appeased by so called secular parties like Congress, SP, BSP, DMK, JD, RJD, RLD etc. Nowhere else in the world minorities have so much power. President, PM and Chairperson of UPA (the real PM) are all from minority communities (Muslim, Sikh & Christian). Still you say there is discrimination.
RE:Upliftment of Minorities
by Sriram Vangal on Apr 15, 2007 03:12 PM Permalink
200% non- sense. You are sidelined because, you never believed in formal education. You opted for madarasas instead of govt schools. Don't blame others for your stupidity.
RE:RE:Upliftment of Minorities
by Indi hindi on Apr 15, 2007 03:15 PM Permalink
that is a differant issue altogethr. We never said we dont need normal education. It was the govt discrimination which is the result of these wholessale problems. We are blaming only those people who created this problems. The upper caste vested interst who are only 3% of the population controlling the 97% Indians.
RE:RE:RE:Upliftment of Minorities
by Vinay Gupta on Apr 15, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
actulyyou are again playing politics. you are not for upliftment of muslims. you want to divide hindus on cast line and I again say desist from this tactic. It will back fire. Batter resolve Shia sunnidifferences. Give rspect to women. Allow them to give up BURKHA etc etc.
RE:RE:RE:Upliftment of Minorities
by Kaushik Das on Apr 15, 2007 03:34 PM Permalink
Most of the controlling politicians are OBCs. WHere do you get this falsehood about 3% controlling the rest???
It's a shame that Congress Party is still ruled by dynasty. It's Nehru's family which still makes or breaks decision within Congress Party. Senior Leaders still wait to see what SoniaJi, RahulJi, and PriyankaJi has to say. What a shame? PriyankaJi has a part-time job in Congress Party and still has a say and everybody listens. Our PM Dr. Manmohan Singh, an internationally renowned economist and a man with dignity also salutes Rahul GandhiJi. What a shame? Not sure when this "Ji"s will fade away from our history... Good thing Rahul is yet to be married, so after Rahul, next PM won't be a Gandhi, it would be a Vadera...
RE:CONGRESS PARTY IS A BONDED SLAVE OF GANDHI FAMILY
by lakshmanan sowmianarayanan on Apr 15, 2007 03:09 PM Permalink
Everybody finds it a fashion to criticise Congress for dynasty. Why they dont look into modern messiahs like Mulayam,Pawar,Karunanidhi,Naidu etc who do not lag behind promoting dynasty. In the case of JJ it is altogether a different storyof some interesting relationship. Atleast Nehru family has done something for this country.Oters have only looted.
RE:CONGRESS PARTY IS A BONDED SLAVE OF GANDHI FAMILY
by Vinay Gupta on Apr 15, 2007 03:51 PM Permalink
WHO say that the parties as named by you are doing good or they are role model? AND WHAT GOOD NEHRO FAMILY DONE FOR COUNTRY?
Kasmir, defet o 1962 by China, Unrest in north east, Poverty still could not be removed and a very big list...
RE:CONGRESS PARTY IS A BONDED SLAVE OF GANDHI FAMILY
by Kaushik Das on Apr 15, 2007 03:35 PM Permalink
And what exactly has the nehru family done for this country, may I know? Naidu was a good CM. What's wrong with him? Why equate him with KN, Mulayam and Pawar? You mention a fwe third rate goondas to defend gandhis? There are many other good politicians in India.
RE:CONGRESS PARTY IS A BONDED SLAVE OF GANDHI FAMILY
by Ajay on Apr 15, 2007 03:48 PM Permalink
May soul of evil spirits Nehru Ghazi Khan, Indra Ghazi Khan and Rajiv Ghazi Khan burn for million of years in hell for killing Mahatma Gandhi to acquire his surname.
MahatMa Gandhi wanted to BAN Congress after Independance.
Dont believe me ?? Just log to :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swaraj( Read ( After Gandhi)
PKL. April,15th .Afternoon 2.30pm 2007 The Oudh peasantry is blinded by charisma of the Nehruvian Dynasts for more than several decades of feudal veneration of INDIRA,RAJIV,SONIA ,Rahul/Priyanka ironically in our socialistic republic.The local Zamindars who plumped for Nehruvian Red-Rose are highly oppressive, as ever ,and caste- minded as if XXIst century is still under the horizon. My Dear Oudh! when shall you be liberated from your fetters of slavery, me wistfully longs...D. Goel
RE:Priyanka the Blue Eyed Great Grand Daughter of Nehru Clan
by muneer abidi on Apr 15, 2007 02:04 PM Permalink
THERE WAS BJP GOVT IN UP FOR LONG TIME. I THINK THEY FAILED OR COULD NOT TRY TO FREE U.P FROM SAVERY, BLA BLA BLA.
RE:Priyanka the Blue Eyed Great Grand Daughter of Nehru Clan
by Ajay on Apr 15, 2007 03:49 PM Permalink
Just log to :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swaraj( Read ( After Gandhi)
Is this the reason why Mahatma Gandhi got shot, and Indra Ghazi Khan played a foul play and cooked up the story to snatch Gandhi surname ??
When Gandhi himself wanted to BAN Congress why would he adopt "Feroze Khan", were these Feroze khan and Indra Ghazi khan Illegitimate sons/daughters of Nehru who inter coursed each other to produce another illegitimate egg Rajiv Ghazi Khan so that he can fool our country using pirated Gandhi Surname ??
RE:ZINDABAD
by Ram Sharma on Apr 15, 2007 03:21 PM Permalink
How Priyanka is Gandhi after her marriage to Vadera? Her grandmother (dadi) married to a good mannered Khan, who was adopted by Gandhiji, so that she could write Gandhi after her name instead of Khan. Her mother also wants to be known by Gandhi and not by her Italian title. But why Priyanka also wants to be known as Gandhi? These Nehru dynastic persons want people to know them by Gandhi, for getting the advantage of the name of Mahatma Gandhi. How selfish and cunning they are! One was real Mahatma, all others are just opposite of Mahatma Gandhi. In the Rediff article alsothere is no mention of Vadera or Gandhi, the writer must be confused, what to write. Once I read 'Priyanka Vadera Gandhi' in a newspaper.
RE:ZINDABAD
by Ajay on Apr 15, 2007 03:50 PM Permalink
Well Said Ram Prasad ..we indians are with you.
Just log to :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swaraj( Read ( After Gandhi)
Is this the reason why Mahatma Gandhi got shot, and Indra Ghazi Khan played a foul play and cooked up the story to snatch Gandhi surname ??
When Gandhi himself wanted to BAN Congress why would he adopt "Feroze Khan", were these Feroze khan and Indra Ghazi khan Illegitimate sons/daughters of Nehru who inter coursed each other to produce another illegitimate egg Rajiv Ghazi Khan so that he can fool our country using pirated Gandhi Surname ??
Why is Priyanka visible only during elections? She is a born leader and should be allowed to take the lead in UP. Rahul may be a good economist but does not vibe with the people. Priyanka does. But Sonia is not alowing her to take centre stage. Is this because she is a woman and no longer a Gandhi but a Vadra?
RE:When Pritanka lost her cool
by Sriram Vangal on Apr 15, 2007 02:28 PM Permalink
May be she is born to a leader. Apart from that, I do not see any leadership qualities in her
RE:When Pritanka lost her cool
by trikarn on Apr 15, 2007 02:35 PM Permalink
some are born leaders, nehru some acheive leadership mrs.G some have it thrust upon them,.......ur guess is as good as mine
1.Rama or Krishna never knew the word "HINDU" 2.All the sacred books of Hinduism do not have the word "HINDU" 3.Sankarcharya who was main instrumental in regaining Brahminism in 8th century AD, did not know the term "HINDU" 4.We become HINDU when muslims only started calling us HINDU after 10th century AD. 5.HINDUS were overpowered by MUSLIMS/CHIRISTIANS for 800 years barring some discrete areas / periods. 6.HINDUS like to be overpowered by other RELIGIONS as observed in INDEPENDENT INDIA.Eventhough we are majority by population , we have very little say on overpowering other religion. 7.HINDUS have kept themselves fragmented on SECULAR / NON-SECULAR , HIGHER CASTE / LOWER CASTE , PRO-RESERVATION / ANTI-RESERVATION , PRO-MUSLIM / ANTI-MUSLIM , FUNDAMENTALIST / LIBERAL. We have lost moral courage to fight back / regaining strength. 8.HINDUS need some leader like SANKARACHARYA for regaining faith / confidence .Otherwise we are likely to remain a matter of RIDICULE in our own motherland by othe religious faith.
RE:RE:MYTH & REALITY
by RAMAKRISHNA on Apr 15, 2007 01:34 PM Permalink
Will the Gandhi's ever leave the Indian politics, will they ever retire, will the Gandhis ever step down gracefully as Naryana Murty did? PS: Except the Mahatma no Gandhi ever took sanyas from the politics.
RE:MYTH & REALITY
by original idea on Apr 15, 2007 01:46 PM Permalink
These Gandhis waht we see today , are mockery to INDIAN DEMOCRACY.
We have more confidence on Chappel than our Mohinder Amornath / Sandip Patil.
We feel proud if we become NRI than RI.
We give more values to Foreign Degrees in Medical science than Our own Medical Institutes.
Actual thing is that we have lost self confidence in a great measure.
Thats why we like Sonia and Company to lead our nation than any of Congress Leader at present.Look at Manmohon Singh , whether he reminds the role of Gyani Jail singh as the President of India .Only difference is that Manmohon has good educational background.
We can read the pain in the face of Dr. Monmohon Singh , he is helpless.
RE:MYTH & REALITY
by Hemant on Apr 15, 2007 01:16 PM Permalink
That is b'coz of people, who are ready to forgo their own religion to please others. As long as those loosers and cowards are present in our faith, Hinduism can not grow.
RE:RE:MYTH & REALITY
by nasir qureshi on Apr 15, 2007 01:49 PM Permalink
but division is in the HINDU RELIGION itself on the lines of upper caste and lower caste its written in the sacred books like Manusmriti that Brahmins come from head Kshatriyas come from chest Kayastha come from abdomen & Shudras from toe
RE:[object]
by trikarn on Apr 15, 2007 02:45 PM Permalink
ok, let some one tell me, what is meant by dalit christian, obc christian, uc christian etc these are from our matrimonial advts
RE:[object]
by trikarn on Apr 15, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
sunnis and shias kill each other with fury beyond description prots ansd catholics are the same. then why crib about hindus.
RE:MYTH & REALITY
by seek the truth on Apr 15, 2007 02:30 PM Permalink
manusmriti is not a sacred book, it is just one of the philosophies out of the many philosophical schools that flourished and it was debunked and not followed by 90% of the population even when it was introduced
RE:[object]
by Vinay Gupta on Apr 15, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
rightly said. manu samarati might be a constitution created at some point of time. it is never a binding on hindus. Like this constitution which we adopted in 1947 has ungone so many ammendment.
Dear friend, this manu samarti is quoted by Muslim and chiristian to use the division in Hindus to achieve their political goal and these so called dalit use it to bargain.
These so called dalits are Brahmins among the dalit. They donot allow dalits to enter there house. They never thry to uplift them. They take away all the share which has been given by the constitution to the dalits.
RE:MYTH & REALITY
by vijay kumar on Apr 15, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
Please understand that all parts in a body are important. Toe is as important as the head. You are speaking based on half baked knowlodge without understanding what head and toe means. And when we hindus are discussing something amongst ourselves. Why are u getting yourself in. If only people like you leave india and head to pakistan we will live in peice. You people take every oppurtunity to divide us. All problem is because of you people. If you leave we will live in peace.
RE:MYTH & REALITY
by praveen mathew on Apr 15, 2007 03:42 PM Permalink
if all non hindus are forced to leave India as advocated by yourself, India will no longer be India. It will break down into the 563 princely states that it was before the British came and this time the Chinese will come. Unity in diversity is our strength. Jai Hind Praveen Mathew
RE:RE:MYTH & REALITY
by educationforu on Apr 15, 2007 02:36 PM Permalink
arre vijay chu, kaun se peache ki baat kare hai re tu......jo daliton ko, shudro ko, achchooton ko di hai ? hehehehehehehe
RE:MYTH & REALITY
by Vinay Gupta on Apr 15, 2007 03:38 PM Permalink
dear education foru, kyon hehehe kar ke apna mental status show kar raha hai. abe theek tarah se discussion mein bhag le.
Agar tu itna hi acha tha tow tere jaiso ko Pakistan se kyon bhaga diya gaya tha pakistan se 1947 mein.? Tu bhi dalit or shudra ya deprivd ka upliftment nahi chahta.
You are using the tad of dalits to take advantage in jobs only. Once you get good job you never work for upliftment of poor dalits. Infact you become Brahmins among Dalits.
Now someone rightly said that Muslims and Chirstians should mind their bussiness rather then poking their nose into the affais of Hindus, if they want to maintain good relations with hindus...
They should concentarate on resolving the issues which their religion is facing
RE:MYTH & REALITY
by shreepad halleppanavar on Apr 15, 2007 03:35 PM Permalink
Well, nasir . Get the facts correctly. Term hindu is given by somebody who infact wanted to referr to way of life in Sindhu Valley. The word derived from persian since there is no "s" in persion. Besides hinduism is not religion but a way of life. Our way of life which should the rightully referred to "Sanatan Dharma" has no founder like you have and neither are we bound by a Holy book. Probably you come from UP and must have heard a lot of crap from Mayawati. Do you know from which part of the body your ancestors came from before they converted ? I admit caste problems (which in fact were based on division of labour and competance AND NOT BIRTH and in due course lost way) but most of it are kept alive by Politicians for their short term gains. Without such Politians e you would not be having SO MANY SECULARS BENDING BACKWARD to keep you APPEASED AND BACKWORD !!!!!
RE:MYTH & REALITY
by trikarn on Apr 15, 2007 02:42 PM Permalink
hindu disunity is a long standing matter. well it wont go away so soon. once someone asked gandhiji who is the minority in india. mahatma said, well all hindus are a minority. so do not ry to identify minority amongst them. he was dead right. tha is why, hindus are a concept not a religion. there is no compulsion to offer prayer , no common sastras then draw ur conclusions
RE:When Priyanka lost her cool in Amethi
by original idea on Apr 15, 2007 01:24 PM Permalink
LOOK FOR ALTERNATIVE DEAR ! YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME MORE OPTIONS.
As a young girl campaigning and handling the party affirs, it is bound to happen. It is a well known fact that congress Workers from the Grass root level to the senior most leader are all in the habit of bowing down to the wishes of the GAndhi Family and yes, they take full advantage of it (the gandhi family) No wonder they sometimes do act as Dictator. Why blame the young girl... The average indian has to wake up and learn the reality... The "Vote" is the best weapon to change the family rule. abhay ekbote
RE:Priyanka lost her cool in Delhi
by original idea on Apr 15, 2007 01:28 PM Permalink
Do not become jealous for GANDHI family.
Breed some better and more faithful leaders who have originality in their leadership and not influenced by GANDHI Family and CO. , you will see complete erosion of presence of GANDHI Family from Indian Politics.
RE:RE:Priyanka lost her cool in Delhi
by Venkataraman Kalyanasundaram Iyer on Apr 15, 2007 02:40 PM Permalink
Wait until Priyanka's child grows to lead the congress party and the Nation!! R else wait until Rahul marries a foreigner!!
