Its been our best way to put down someone who has changed the destiny of India in the global market. Infosys is arguably the best run compnay in India and has provided millions of jobs to our own people. One comment by Mr. Murthy and the whole country is going Gaga over it. What has India earned in the last 50 years after freedom? Curruption, gangster politicians, hopeless beauracracy, shameful poverty. If you can do something for India, try and work on the betterment of these issues rather than pointing out at someone who is honestly trying to do something for our country. Patriotism is good, but its best at implementation than just raising slogans.
RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Sant kumar on Apr 14, 2007 01:03 AM Permalink
There is nothing like following success ...Don't carried away by that ..Think twice about murthy ..His entire personality is completely fake ... Development is not having few companies like infosys .. After all Infy is not his asset. Efforts of thousands of employees are there ...
RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Vikatakavi on Apr 14, 2007 01:13 AM Permalink
Wow sant kumar,
You made me amazed with your point that "Efforts of THOUSANDS of employees". But wait, Infosys started with 8 or 9 friends as it's employees. So, basically the THOUSANDS that you are talking about are owed to those 8 or 9.
Google was the piece of work by 2 friends, and then grown based on their ideas. And now if you say, Google is just because of it's employees you are an idiot.
Learn to appreciate someone's vision and hardwork, what you talking is called as Back Stabbing.
RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Indian Students on Apr 14, 2007 01:29 AM Permalink
Google was the piece of work by 2 friends, and then grown based on their ideas. And now if you say, Google is just because of it's employees you are an idiot.
Well Said. That is how the labor unions function did you not know owners are rich and workers are poor so we should go on strike. Kerala and Calcutta are trying to wipe out their past anti-industry policy and creating a new image, but they are not very successful.
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RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Sant kumar on Apr 14, 2007 01:24 AM Permalink
Buddy don't try to give lession to me ..Compare NRN with Bill Gate or Warren Buffet ....How much social responsiblity he has. You must be the same IT GUY ..Pls think outside the box
RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Vikatakavi on Apr 14, 2007 01:35 AM Permalink
Sant Kumar Ji,
You are making me give you lessons again. Firstly, you cleverly evaded my straight replies to your comments.
Secondly, comparing NR to BG and WB, OK. Again you are failed here. Even BG or WB set up their own trusts headed by themselves. Only mindless fellows will put the money in to the hands of politicians as donations. Btw, Who are you to talk about what NR had to do philanthopy wise? They do have a trust and they are doing it under his wife's leadership. Btw, what is your social responsibilty? throwing mud at others?? I want to compare you with NR before comparing NR with the other two.
RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by anuj sharma on Apr 14, 2007 03:18 AM Permalink
Man WB donated to bill and malinda gates foundation amount of money almost equivalent to what B&M gates foundation had. Also B&M gates foundation funda more projects in various countries (including India) in the feild of development of treatment for infectious disease. I am not sure how much Infosis donates. Anyways the whole argument is about Murthy not Infosis.
RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by R K on Apr 14, 2007 02:47 AM Permalink
Warren did not create his trust my friend . He infact donated all his money to Bill Gates foundation since he already has the setup and did not want to waste on setting a foundation. You first get yourfacts right.
RE:RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Vikatakavi on Apr 14, 2007 04:02 AM Permalink
Hero, i know that but i can't eloborate all that stuff here. My point is no one will donate hard earned money to be handled by Govt. fully knowing how idiots the politicians are.
He actually raised the stature of BG by reposing faith in his trust.
But do you think i need to tell all this to answer his question. We will loose track of what we discussing if we go deep into other aspects.
RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by rajeev kumar on Apr 14, 2007 01:44 AM Permalink
ok that was really good example. i appriciate. but wahat you think is the reason behind bihar for being bihar???
RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Vikatakavi on Apr 14, 2007 01:53 AM Permalink
Rajeev,
I think one need not be an expert to tell this. Again my opinion. Traditionally, north got more money power and south more brain power. Politicians in North are worse than South. Trust me. I worked in UP 12 years ago, when there was not much IT in india. Despite crores of rupees with people, the infrastructure used to be so bad. Point is it's more corrupted than many southern states. If that's what UP is i can imagine what BIHAR could be under Laloo..
RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Sivakumar Periasamy on Apr 14, 2007 01:14 AM Permalink
U people are frogs in the shallow well without knowing the wholw world. U thing that ur world is infosys and N.Moorthy is the only boss in this world. Come out and extend ur wings...see how many good bosses are there in India and how much they are doing better things silently
RE:RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Chamchelee on Apr 14, 2007 01:32 AM Permalink
He even wants to introduce a new culture too .... no more jana gana mana..... for Infy guys... A R Rahman hit.. Vanthe Matharam would be the new national anthem.
RE:RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Vikatakavi on Apr 14, 2007 01:26 AM Permalink
Hello Periasamy,
Please share us some SILENT stories of many of those GOOD bosses of YOURS to us, the frogs? Because if they do things so silently, they obviously don't want tobe in limelight. So who the hell are you to bring them to the limelight against their wishes.
We talk about what's being made public. So basically you seems to be confused. May be the SILENT guys and you are the FROGs, who don't want to come out public.
RE:Whats Wrong with all u fellows
by Sivakumar Periasamy on Apr 14, 2007 01:55 AM Permalink
Sorry Mr Vikatakavi.. I dont have a time to spent with fools like u. Its not escapism...its a simple smartness Sivakumar
Murthy is 100% right! Even in Olympics, they play instrumental versions of hundreds of national anthems, including those of the G-7 economic super-powers. The politicians are just trying to get some political mileage from this.
The Instumental National Anthem is just the same as the vocal one. Moreover, Murthy is a person who deserves a lot of respect for what he did for improving India's economy ! He is a real patriot, unlike the ignorant politicians and advocates who sing the anthem and then do absolutely nothing for the country. Lets accept sagacious advice from Narayanmurthy.
RE:Moorthy is 100% correct
by Chamchelee on Apr 14, 2007 12:55 AM Permalink
But he's not at all above the country. He has not right to say about national anthem. He's just a business man. think about his profit.. not about the country.. don't deserves respect more than a business man..
RE:Moorthy is 100% correct
by Indian Students on Apr 14, 2007 01:11 AM Permalink
This is the reason why America is rich and India is poor, we know only to respect the crimnals.
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RE:Moorthy is 100% correct
by Sivakumar Periasamy on Apr 14, 2007 01:19 AM Permalink
what he has done a big thing. Has given job for some thousands and thousands of computer graduates, not for all indian graduates. Since the computer industry has been on its bloom, he ironed the wealth of rods when they are hot. Be support ur boss for ur company election, not for advocating anything to indian policy
RE:Moorthy is 100% correct
by Indian Students on Apr 14, 2007 01:32 AM Permalink
Has given job for some thousands and thousands of computer graduates, not for all indian graduates
Doing great things not giving jobs to thousands, doing great things means creating a state like Bihar.
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by jayesh thakkar on Apr 14, 2007 12:49 AM Permalink
Come To Gujarat NRN, They always give value and keep the person for life time!! They will make sure u get recognized at international level like gandhi,patel or Ambani! :) Even they had also made many mistakes but we forget it.. so dont worry head for that..
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by jayesh thakkar on Apr 14, 2007 12:51 AM Permalink
DOnt go to Tamilnadu, I hope he recollects what had happen with Karunanidhi when JL was in power and vice versa!! :) raat ko 2 baje utha ke le jayenge ghar se!!
The So-called IT icon of India, N. Moorthy, is much concerned about foreigners, who came from 12th or Super-power planet in the solar system. The so-called bullshit foreigners cannot listen the National anthem of India on its own langauge for a matter of less than a minute. They dont have time or patience to listen the anthem for a minute. The shame is that Moorthy, who was purposefully posed as next President-candidate by some-biased media, has shown concern for the foreigners. Who asked them to come to India??. If they are in India they should follow the rules of India. No one can take advantage, being powerful bussinessmen, to change the basic system in our country. Sivakumar
RE:RE:Murthy is much concerned about Foreigners, not Indians
by Sivakumar Periasamy on Apr 14, 2007 04:37 AM Permalink
Mr. Karthik, what u mean by your message. Are U ready to face the sue against indulging casteism
RE:Murthy is much concerned about Foreigners, not Indians
by Indian Students on Apr 14, 2007 12:59 AM Permalink
Currently millions of farmers in Tamil Nadu does not know the meaning of the national anthem. What is Indian government doing about this issue?
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RE:Murthy is much concerned about Foreigners, not Indians
by Sivakumar Periasamy on Apr 14, 2007 01:11 AM Permalink
Sorry my dear Indian Student withour originality.. Those farmers are mostly illiterate generation. They no need to know the meaning of natinal anthem...but they know how to educate their children who knows everything in the world. Thats enough for them
RE:Murthy is much concerned about Foreigners, not Indians
by Indian Students on Apr 14, 2007 01:17 AM Permalink
Sorry Tamil Nadu children don%u2019t learn Hindi they are happy to sing %u201CTamil Thai Valthu%u201D
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Those farmers are mostly illiterate generation. They no need to know the meaning of natinal anthem...but they know how to educate their children who knows everything in the world. Thats enough for them
Who are you to say what is enough for a farmer. He will be happy to sing the national anthem in a language he knows.
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RE:Murthy is much concerned about Foreigners, not Indians
by jayesh thakkar on Apr 14, 2007 01:14 AM Permalink
VERY WELL SAID SIVA totally agree, they do know how to grow their kid.. and how not to grow like cow boy and SUPERMAN!! :)
Money made u totally blind. You are not seeing anything good in INDIA. Always finding faults at something. Better go and settle in US ..At least some people will feel happy. Please don't expect to INDIA to change as you wanted ...Stop praising about only IT and your junk company Infy.
RE:Shame on u Mr Murthy
by Indian Students on Apr 14, 2007 01:04 AM Permalink
Yes India can go back to 100 percent farming. Do you really know how world economics work? I am sure you will be ready to burn yourself for a politician. Grow up and learn how the world functions.
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RE:Shame on u Mr Murthy
by shivashankar krishnan on Apr 14, 2007 01:09 AM Permalink
hah !!! look who is talking.. what do you do gentleman.. .have you proved yourself to be even an iota of NRN before you comment on him ? He has apologised. There is no further discussion to that.
RE:Shame on u Mr Murthy
by Chamchelee on Apr 14, 2007 01:22 AM Permalink
So what.. anybody can do mistakes and say OOOps i am sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . I don't have money like he has but Now feel above him.... coz i never felt shy to sing national anthem in front of foreigners.
RE:Shame on u Mr Murthy
by shivashankar krishnan on Apr 14, 2007 02:13 AM Permalink
so I assume you have never said sorry in your life.. :-) Hmmm... Interesting.
Mr.Murthy ought to realise that the National Anthem cannot be compromised just to save embarrassment for foreigners.No one expects a foreigner to sing the Indian National Anthem so why bother to resort to such laxness?
How absurd was Mr.Murthy sounding when he difended the controvery. I cant belive a person like Mr.Murthy is ashamed to sing the national anthem. I am sure other nationals will have due respect for Indians to sing their own national anthem. In other countries just because a few Indians are around they dont forget or mute their national anthems. Just a day before I was supporting Mr. Murthy's candidature for presidency now I take it back. I am ashamed that a person of Mr.Murthy's calibre has no patriotism to sing the National anthem just because a few other nationals are around...
RE:Shame on you Mr.Murthy
by shivashankar krishnan on Apr 14, 2007 01:11 AM Permalink
Mr.NRN is not ashamed of singing the anthem. But he was so very courteous towards the guests that he said that. Cmon nobody is perfect. Moreover he has apologized. No more discussion to that
RE:Shame on you Mr.Murthy
by kaushik sivakumar on Apr 14, 2007 12:51 AM Permalink
It is a matter of personal choice to either respect national anthem or not. In any case we are seeing it out of contect and trying to make a bg thing out of nothing. Some people decry worshipping God. In those days it used to be called Blasphemy. These days we have come to accept it. It depends on how you see it.
Our national anthem was written to welcome Queen Victoria II when she set her foot in India at the Gateway of India.
The anthem praises her and calls her the "Bharat Bhagya Vidhata". And after 60 yrs of independence, we Idiots are still singing the song as our national anthem.. and praising the british !
HOW DUMB !
It is better to play it Instrumental, atleast we don;t have to sing those words of praise for the British who took away all our wealth.
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by Dipanjan Ray on Apr 14, 2007 12:53 AM Permalink
Named as Superman, how can you behave like such a stupid man. First of all, the controversy around this song was not beacause it was not written for Queen Victoria II but it was for King George V's vist to India. So have your history correct in the very first place. Also I think you have problem understanding English because Wikipedia site also clearly says the actual history behind this song. I am giving you the url below, so that if you can read English, you will know what it actualy was.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jana_Gana_Mana
Also, if you have certain level of intelligence to understand history, read the following article:
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by Anindo Dey on Apr 13, 2007 09:50 PM Permalink
This is a completely wrong statement. The anthem was not written for Quenn Victoria. Please read more about hitory from authentic sources rather than colecting information from trash websites
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by Superman aka who last crashed into a tree on Apr 13, 2007 09:53 PM Permalink
That's what Wikipedia Says. If you consider that a trash website, then that's your problem.
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by Chamchelee on Apr 14, 2007 01:04 AM Permalink
Who cares what says in wikipedia... What we Indian's believe that's matter. I am an Indian and Jana Gana Mana is my national anthem.
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by anuj sharma on Apr 14, 2007 03:22 AM Permalink
Wikipedia is a trash site, anyone can put anythingh they want.
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by jayesh thakkar on Apr 14, 2007 12:27 AM Permalink
OK Even if I agree to ur statement, how can u congratulate murthy!! He is also praising the FOREIGNER!! ITs not issue of playing Anthem on instrument but the REASON he gave!! Bullshit reasoning what was he also doing then?? Pleasing the foreigner.
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by approximate boy on Apr 14, 2007 12:34 AM Permalink
To Superman>> Its not the site that is the problem, it is your interpretation
And from wikipedia itself : "Thus, Tagore is said to have written the poem in honour of God. In a letter to Pulin Behari Sen, Tagore himself wrote: [6]
"A certain high official in His Majesty's service, who was also my friend, had requested that I write a song of felicitation towards the Emperor. The request simply amazed me. It caused a great stir in my heart. In response to that great mental turmoil, I pronounced the victory in Jana Gana Mana of that Bhagya Vidhata [ed. God of Destiny] of India who has from age after age held steadfast the reins of India's chariot through rise and fall, through the straight path and the curved. That Lord of Destiny, that Reader of the Collective Mind of India, that Perennial Guide, could never be George V, George VI, or any other George. Even my official friend understood this about the song. After all, even if his admiration for the crown was excessive, he was not lacking in simple common sense."
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by shantanu mukherjee on Apr 14, 2007 12:42 AM Permalink
this superman aka seems worse than murthy.i hope the last comment is read by him and he realises that to comment on the national anthem he must do better than read wikipedia
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by jayesh thakkar on Apr 14, 2007 12:37 AM Permalink
But its true.. she was bhagya vidhata ;) who introduced Train, electricity, road, cars, communications (phone etc), Radio!! , Hill stations, Capitalism, India to the WORLD.. U need to congratulate her and thank her for that man!! ;)
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by Tej Buch on Apr 14, 2007 02:07 AM Permalink
I agree...or we would have not come out of our squabbling on caste religion region language and cultue...and would have had no time to think about building all this in the country..Its definitely thanks to the British that we got a basic infratructure in the country...
RE:It is better to play instrumental.. instead of singing it
by Sivakumar Periasamy on Apr 14, 2007 01:00 AM Permalink
Hello superman from Super-power planet Dont forget yourself as u do with your national pride. Someone will trash u out soon
