Mr XXX moved to US on H1 visa. His employer a small Indian company sponsored him, The company pays XXX $50,000 flat salary. There are around 20 employees in his current company working for the same salary. His employer charges the customer anywhere from $75 to $80 as most of them are working in ERP packages. That's roughly 130k to 150k per anum. So this employer is keeping more than 60 percent of the income he earned through these people just because he sponsored their H1. So after couple of years Mr XXX who used to hate his employer to the core decided to start his own company. (People love to become the very person they hated once ,, dont they )... Now he dishes out the same unfair treatment to his fellow countrymen. Now his own company has more than 30 employees. The reason i stated the above story...
It's the story of 90% of all the Indian body shops in US and India. how it became possible for these firms...there are many fine lines in the morality of this business practice. Does it require amazing brains to develop these firms? Are they doing these fellow country men a service by this or they exploiting them? Who decides how much percentage of the employee generated revenue they can pocket? This IT body shop phenomenon which is the true portrait of Indian IT giants,, is it a natural Osmosis waiting to happen? Or is it intelligently carved by the so called Indian IT sages such as NRM and others..
TCS last year got sued by their US employee as they asked their employees to return their personal tax returns to the company. ( I am not joking they have been doing that for a while )..That%u2019s the most ridiculous thing I ever heard..
A day will come when the unethical practices of these Indian software giants will come into light. You will see the true nature of these so called innovative minds. No R&D, no software development of their own, manipulated representation of employee skills, substandard treatment of employees compared to other consulting firms.
Do i think these people are shrewd business men ...YES.. Are they immensely creative and deserve to give speeches about ethics and claim moral righteousness%u2019 NO...
I personally don%u2019t give a damn about whether he played a tune or sang song in his office. Patriotism is beyond these so called show offs and carrying flags. I bet most of these Indian IT firm employers who are exploiting these fellow country men Sing the national anthem proudly out of their patios and paint their houses tri colors. The sad part is that they never see India in the faces of those people who they are exploiting. But they are Patriots,, what the heck they sang the song so%u2026.. I just hope I wont become the same person I hated once%u2026%u2026.
RE:Myths about Indian IT giants..
by Chamchelee on Apr 14, 2007 04:39 AM Permalink
Tipical Deshi Attitude..... Want to reach in us some how. Ready to sign any paper with out knowing what it is.. once reach in US .. then a cry baby..... how much you want dude?? whole billing amount... you are not a big player in US market.... one of the 60,000 from India(every year)
RE:Myths about Indian IT giants..
by Dayananda Shenoy on Apr 14, 2007 04:25 AM Permalink
hey buddy, i agree with you, whatever u said is 100% true. but u know one thing, despite all this being true still many of us, including me will tend to go for such companies and get exploited by our own so called Indian companies, reason might be that many of us are helpless or don%u2019t have much options when it comes to our better money making career , almost all companies who are from India or operate in India do the similar kind of business and show huge profits which are made out of this kind of body shopping business which they term as Services, this is the IT story of our great India.
as far as the issue of national anthem is concerned, I am an Indian and I am proud to be born in this country and I do respect my national anthem, but i really don%u2019t understand why this guys think all this kind of issue when some one who has big name is involved and our media highlights and supported by this politicians, I really doubt when was the last time did our politicians sang our national anthem by there own, many of them might even not knowing to sing it fully. They just wait to get any such topics and then they start there game, I am very sure, all this guys will keep there mouth shut once they get some favors from mr.murthy. after all everything is for there own profits right, we have 101 other critical problems which are un attended, instead of trying to find a solution for them they are behind this kind of issues and take benefit out of it , Really I must say mera bharath mahaan..
RE:Myths about Indian IT giants..
by Chiru on Apr 14, 2007 04:07 AM Permalink
Good write up. Regarding a person getting exploited by employer and doing the same when he sets up the company is like ragging.When people are being ragged in colleges they hate the seniors and very next year they start ragging the juniors.
President did not went secret sites inside infosys otherwise he would have also found HARE KRISHNA HARE RAMA types Madhushalas for foreign clients .. $$$ is power ..NRN was nothing w/o tht ..he did everything to please foreign clients
RE:Mabhushala in Infosys ..$ Dollar Power
by webkid on Apr 14, 2007 03:40 AM Permalink
Common.... apply atleast 0.5% of your mind before you make this kind of comments. I m sure you never entered any Infy Campuses. Also, I can understand your envy towards. I am not supporting NRN now, its very sad to hear such a comment from a peron like him. Who cares if foreigners doesnt understand our National Anthem? after all they are in our country and we cant loose oue self esteem in our own land.
RE:Mabhushala in Infosys ..$ Dollar Power
by Biswadip Mandal on Apr 14, 2007 04:09 AM Permalink
Stratge why is Infosys linked with NRN in this matter. Comment was NRN's personal one and Infosys as organization has nothing to do with it, I am sure.
Having said that, we all know what these politicians are. I am sure, they will not be able to do any damn damage to NRN, to his great reputation as a great Indian.
RE:RE:Mabhushala in Infosys ..$ Dollar Power
by Chamchelee on Apr 14, 2007 04:42 AM Permalink
Great Indian Doesn't want to sing National Anthem!!!!! r u sick??? Man he's in Infy board.....
his money is basically kissing foriegners. even the foriengers assembled their may now thinking this man is shame to any country. no man of integrity will say this. he is shame now. these bigger than muslim appease of congress. he deserves to be president..good joke
With all due respect to a very bold and hard-working individual that Mr.Murthy is, if a foreigner doesn't understand our language, the fault doesn't lie in our language.
RE:Embarrassing?
by rajesh bhaskar on Apr 14, 2007 03:05 AM Permalink
the shame is same murthy will stand ,smile and hear anyboyd national song for getting a contract. he might have thought westerner are real assholes like him. he degraded self respect of all employees in his company. we should see thedownpath of this company.
If Murthys fathers name is hard to pronounce for his foreign partners, will he change his dads name so that the partners will have an easy time saying the name?
I dont even know where to start with all those blind Murthy worshippers who wants to make him president. What good did he do to mankind..just bcos he made some money by exploiting cheap labor in India, do we Indians give him the right to submit our self esteem before foreigners.
He reminds me of one of those Rajas 300 yrs back who sold our country to foreigners. Ppl like him disgust me
I totally agree that business with these foreigners would do our country and country men a lot of good.. But if losing my identity is the only way to make that happen, I'd rather be poor and starving.
RE:RE:Lose of self esteem
by semerevere on Apr 14, 2007 02:57 AM Permalink
Well said. Where were so far U when the blind-die hard supporters of moorty spitting a lot of fouls
RE:Lose of self esteem
by naren mudi on Apr 14, 2007 03:00 AM Permalink
U r rt bro. U know what. When Mr Murthy becomes president, he says, we dont need national anthem at all since "FORGINERS" embarrass
RE:Lose of self esteem
by bombay india on Apr 14, 2007 03:00 AM Permalink
pls read up before u make such comments. Murthy is worshipped not bcos he made lot of money, but bcos of the way he runs his business. While other businessmen try to squeeze their workers till the last drop, murthy has always tried to provide reasonable working conditions, better facilities for women etc in his workplace. and he is highly ethical, which is a very rare quality in india these days
RE:[object]
by naren mudi on Apr 14, 2007 03:03 AM Permalink
See Mr, What ever it may be. Its not the matter about how much he done to the country. Lets think that he gave everything to country. But still he dont have right to say anything bad about national anthem.
Say, i helped you a lot. If i insult your mother, do u accept.
Just becoz , i helped you, do you think that i have right to say something about ur family
RE:Lose of self esteem
by bombay india on Apr 14, 2007 03:07 AM Permalink
but he didnt say anything bad abt it, he probably wasnt even personally involved in arranging the function, these jobs are taken care of by the personnel dept. he is just being noble enough to take all the blame on his head
RE:Lose of self esteem
by rajesh bhaskar on Apr 14, 2007 03:38 AM Permalink
don't be kisser . you may be an employee of infosys. you try to kiss at office not in rediff man unless you are not born to one.
RE:Lose of self esteem
by Sant kumar on Apr 14, 2007 03:21 AM Permalink
Where are u? He told clearly that singing nation anthem would embrass FORGINERS ..It is not only the case ..Many times he suggested indians to change to appease US and Europe
I don't think any foriegner will be embarrased by hearing national anthem. Nobody is forcing them to sing. By going to extremes of pleasing the guests he has in fact put them in a embarrasing situation.
RE:He lost respect...
by rajesh bhaskar on Apr 14, 2007 02:58 AM Permalink
he should be sentenced to jail. if it was in usa or europe murthy will stand ,smile and stand patriotically to hear their song. he brought us shame. shame is it applicable to an indian who has been attacked and ruled by invaders. this is guy is also a big show i logged onto infosys website sent a letter to this guy. he degraded all he did and all indian in cluding the employees who sing with him. but kissers will say he is great maybe he can be our president to as it doesn't require any qualification of morality.
RE:He lost respect...
by Subbu on Apr 14, 2007 02:59 AM Permalink
Exactly, the delegates would have realized now why the hell we went to Infy. We went to do some business and not to get stuck with some National Issues!!!
RE:He lost respect...
by naren mudi on Apr 14, 2007 03:06 AM Permalink
you are exactly rt.
I give you perfect example. i stay in USA. During my Masters, Before we start any function by Indian student association, we sing national anthem. We never found that, guests that belong to other country felt embarrassed about that.
infact, they also stand up with us and keep heads raised.
RE:He lost respect...
by rajesh bhaskar on Apr 14, 2007 03:40 AM Permalink
well sais naren. these idiots when money comes in they do any thng for that.
The politician may be a idiot or a crook but he will think twice before uttering something stupid about the national anthem. This clearly shows that he at least has some fear in his heart for the song unlike our Murthy.Tell me one politician over the last 60 years who has insulted the national anthem Crook or otherwise???
RE:Politician Bashing
by Aditya Sharma on Apr 14, 2007 04:00 AM Permalink
People like u will take our counrty to hell ... But ur funny too .. Very funny .. U think people who eat away our tax money .. who fight like street gundas in parliament .. who are spreading religious hatred in our country are more patriotic than NM .. What do you eat in food buddy i hope its not grass :-)
