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RE:List of deeds
by saif on Apr 11, 2007 11:09 PM  Permalink
those who do these kind of acts, doesn;t have any religion... there are muslims who died in these terrorist attacks.. they r some lost minded people, and by writing like that u are helping them to spread the message of hatred.. which is their slogan... so u r also a terrorist..

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RE:RE:List of deeds
by Kaushik Das on Apr 12, 2007 12:43 AM  Permalink
Saif, no crap, please. He has given statistics. You cannot be emotional in front of statistics. If you think all muslims do not fit the bill, why are you taking it personally?
These terrorists ARE inspired by islam and nothing else and they themselves say it. Why don't you become emotional at that point of time. Most of you are fighting with the statistics rather than fighting with the terrorists.
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And don't shoot the messenger - the messenger is not the terrorist. In fact, the messenger is giving you the figures that you need to think about and change yourself.

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RE:that what I am saying..
by saif on Apr 11, 2007 11:17 PM  Permalink
Islam doesn't believe in caste system as is still happening in many parts of world, Islam gives right to women, when in old times people used to bury women even now people in India kill women after husbands death, Islams slogan all one if black, white , Islam respect other faith,, Islam hates volience and who do so will have to the anger of God.. liste as we have different languages, but the meaning is same, hello, namaste or what ever, same way we have different religions but path is one... every one dies in the same way... every one has two eyes two ears... muslim /hindi/christain or who ever, they all die.. it is the people who r killing each other for the sake of religion... which religion doesn;t teach at all.. Think!!!

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Peace
by saif on Apr 11, 2007 10:58 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is easy to comment by staying at home... try to analyze the situation and do it professionally....

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RE:Peace
by hello on Apr 11, 2007 11:00 PM  Permalink
Why crocodile cry from foreign land
for Indians!!!
Who asked to initiate problems from
foreign land first!!!
Now acting like worrying about people, we
understood your crocodile tears!!!

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RE:Peace
by saif on Apr 11, 2007 11:05 PM  Permalink
as I said earlier it is easy to mess up, being an Indian it is our responsiblity to reach the bottomline of the crises and root out the problem and at the same time being professional... not by saying anything in the latring.

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RE:Peace
by hello on Apr 11, 2007 11:09 PM  Permalink
Correct, Latrine got it.
The guys who are doing terrorist acts are like
that!!!

I understood, it is everybody's responsibility
to bring peace, for that we can talk, let our
leaders talk & find a solution!!!

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RE:Peace
by saif on Apr 11, 2007 11:22 PM  Permalink
thanks hello, your words really touched I think we should use the formula of Mahatma Gandhi, he was a great leader, we should learn from him... everything is possible with peace it opens hearts and minds of people... I m in U.K, we muslims and hinds live like brothers here... when we meet any person from India, we don;t say if he is hindi of muslim.. we hug each other... because we the sons of same soil... that is what is important for us...

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RE:Peace
by mukesh dinodia on Apr 11, 2007 11:37 PM  Permalink
Hello Friend,

I always believe in humanity and as a human i think you have a very good head on your shoulder which nature gift all of us.

God bless you.

Mukesh

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RE:Peace
by hello on Apr 12, 2007 12:00 AM  Permalink
Reduction of troops w/o reduction in millitant
is not the one any one desires, that I surely
understood!!!

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RE:RE:Peace
by seek the truth on Apr 12, 2007 01:07 AM  Permalink
wrong you are not of same soil my dear
your primary allegiance will always remain mecca and anti hindu sentiment

prophetofdoom.net
factusa.org
clikinfo.blogspot.com

and caste system is created by british and perpretrated by arjun singh tio keep hindu society divided

very soon we will unite and take back our nation

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RE:Kashmir
by hello on Apr 11, 2007 10:58 PM  Permalink
The terrorist who operate from foreign soil is
the army's interest, killing a terrorist is not
wrong doing!!!


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RE:Kashmir
by saif on Apr 11, 2007 11:32 PM  Permalink
Dear ashish, thanks for the comments, but is the duty and motive of Army to wife out the crime... They are professionals who work for the Govt. in uniform... they are the savers of the land... So u r saying that they kill any person and get reward, is it bravery or it is dishonesty to the mother Land. True soldier dies for the cause of justace and for his mother land... what r u talking... where have u got Al Qaida from, they are terrorists , what is the difference between terrist and Army.. think before u say... Govt. has given u mind and hand to write ... to use it for the better..

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RE:Kashmir
by Haresh Talreja on Apr 11, 2007 11:44 PM  Permalink
Saif, army is not that poor to sell oil, etc etc to fund its operations...I dont know from where you read this crap..infact its trying to develop the infrastructure which terrorists are trying hard to destroy...by the way..you have no answer to my facts about Indian army....

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RE:Kashmir
by on Apr 11, 2007 11:04 PM  Permalink
Army has own interests while Pakistan does't??
Wonder what are these pakis doing in Indian news Portal??

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RE:Kashmir
by Haresh Talreja on Apr 11, 2007 11:28 PM  Permalink
Saif, agreed and taken ur point..Islam is a religion of peace and due to some people who have lost their way, is giving a bad name to the Islam..so its the duty of people like you to bring the good name to Islam...let me tell you some facts about Indian army....

1. During kargil war, Indain army cremated the pakistani invaders with full Islamic rites after the Pakistan army refused to accept their dead bodies.
2. Indian army has been using its own defence allocation funds to construct some schools and hospitals in peaceful areas of J&K
3. Indian army has been sponsoring the visit of Kashmiri students to the rest of the country to know more about the India rather than terrorism in Kashmir.
4. It is the Indian army which saved the Kashmiri pandits from being extinct from this world after the terrorists started religious cleanisng in kashmir...I am sure you were there at that point of time in this world

So, after all this, who's better, kashmiri terrorits or Indian army..?

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RE:RE:Kashmir
by saif on Apr 11, 2007 11:38 PM  Permalink
Hi Haresh, I know most of the army are professionals, they r really well educated and decent and know how to tackle the situation, but there is politics also in the army at certain cases... some times honest army officers have to listen to these corupt people... in short I tell you politics is a dirty game... it is 100% possible to solve the problem but some politicans both in India and pakistan don't want it happen... do u know how much progress whole continent will do if all those problems are solved... Britian has left by leaving us with problems so that we don;t get on our feet... we r stucked with these problems... sollution is very easy if we do it honestly.... recently I heard one person from kashmir who was working are carpenter and army killed him on fake encounter and later it was found that he was a labourer... and they took him during duty just to expect 1 lac from the Govt for the bravery... isn't it sad...

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We should not
by Nice Nicole on Apr 11, 2007 10:53 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

We should not withdraw the troops on any account. Thanks Lt. Panag. Keep it on

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RE:We should not
by Milind Sawant on Apr 12, 2007 11:17 AM  Permalink
Isnt it interesting that Hindus support the army whereas Muslim posting msgs oppose it saying they misuse power ? The Indian army is not a religion. It is an organization. None of us have a lot of experience with Army. But purely by instincts I trust the army and others dont. Someone gets harassed in a train by a soldier and they make a judgement on the millions of troops! What kind of sampling is this ? A true Indian muslim should trust the army as much as I do. Else your patriorism will be questioned!

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RE:RE:We should not
by saif on Apr 11, 2007 10:55 PM  Permalink
Hi nicole, u comment when u don;t know anything about kashmir, Army has their own intersts in Kashmir, they r earning a lot of money in Kashmir by doing wrong doings... like killing people on fake encounters and then claiming money for bravery, and selling oil which Govt. gives them to use and they sell it.. etc etc... it is the duty of all to make this world a better world spreading the message of Love...


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RE:We should not
by hello on Apr 11, 2007 10:57 PM  Permalink
The terrorist who operate from foreign soil has
army's interest, killing a terrorist is not
wrong doing!!!

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RE:We should not
by saif on Apr 11, 2007 11:01 PM  Permalink
it is easy to make peace, if we sit and work out the situation... u should see both sides of the coin... what if Army kills inocent for getting the award.. and also selling things which is the property of Govt... there is no account.... how will u know they have killed a terrorist...

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RE:We should not
by samsung on Apr 11, 2007 11:06 PM  Permalink
when there were no militants, was there problems like this? Why not ask your militants to go back, then the army will go back too?

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RE:We should not
by hello on Apr 11, 2007 11:04 PM  Permalink
First stop false crying of our Indian people by
telling the security forces as the problem w/o
telling any word about the terrorist who blew
with Grande etc.
Next, We analyse the situation & reduce the
troops on both sides if the situation seems
better!!!

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RE:[object]
by dp on Apr 12, 2007 01:48 AM  Permalink
And Sir, will u be treating the Terrorists coming from the other side??

And pls improve your english, cant understand the first phrase.

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RE:RE:We should not
by Srinivas Janakiraman on Apr 11, 2007 11:52 PM  Permalink
I agree that the way military works is not by analysing the surrounding and give 100% justice. So the wise thing is to avoid military to come to civilian areas. Some muslim civilians support islamic terrorists from across the border and the military may shoot at a suspect even if he is an innocent civilian muslim. Do you remember a shooting by police in UK weeks after London bombing just because the suspect ran away from the officers?
So if you start/support violence/terrorism, you will have to face this problem and not blame military. More over why dont you think about innocent Kashmiri pundits who were killed? and security/military personels who sacrifice for our Motherland?

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RE:[object]
by dp on Apr 12, 2007 01:53 AM  Permalink
Agreed they have to do this. But its not completely Armies mistake...the people too should support them in full and honest manner.
If it would have been other country...kashmir would have been never still so democratic.

HOw do u expect the army to be just when all terrorists are muslims.

Dont u all Muslims think at all what the terrorists have done to your image all over the world.

U all were supposed to be ALLAHS men and now?? see wht people think even about ALLAH bcoz of some people of your community.

HE is seeinf everything.
No Terrorist can hide on the judgement day.

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RE:We should not
by dp on Apr 12, 2007 01:46 AM  Permalink
Is it ? then do u think the number and list of our brave muslim-hindu-christian brothers who died on the battle field at kargil were all false.

Why dont u go on the border and see urself??
Your people will be the one who will shoot u first...i bet on this.

Try it and then convince others.
Its a shame for a Indian to point out things like these.

Our soldiers even treat wounded enemy soldiers.

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ISLAM
by saif on Apr 11, 2007 10:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Islam doesn't teach what muslims might be doing in majority... I agree most of the muslims hve lost their way, by doing wrong things... which Islam doesn't say at all.. Islam is a religion of Peace...


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RE:ISLAM
by Jai Hind on Apr 11, 2007 11:42 PM  Permalink
Saif, I think you are right brother.

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RE:ISLAM
by Haresh Talreja on Apr 11, 2007 11:30 PM  Permalink
Saif, agreed and taken ur point..Islam is a religion of peace and due to some people who have lost their way, is giving a bad name to the Islam..so its the duty of people like you to bring the good name to Islam...let me tell you some facts about Indian army....

1. During kargil war, Indain army cremated the pakistani invaders with full Islamic rites after the Pakistan army refused to accept their dead bodies.
2. Indian army has been using its own defence allocation funds to construct some schools and hospitals in peaceful areas of J&K
3. Indian army has been sponsoring the visit of Kashmiri students to the rest of the country to know more about the India rather than terrorism in Kashmir.
4. It is the Indian army which saved the Kashmiri pandits from being extinct from this world after the terrorists started religious cleanisng in kashmir...I am sure you were there at that point of time in this world

So, after all this, who's better, kashmiri terrorits or Indian army..?

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