The priviledged few in India do not want others to enter the elite premises which they have reserved for themselves for centuries. They have created the organisations like RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal to maintain their superiority by diverting the attention of masses from the real issues to the unnecessary and outdated religious issues.
The methods used for creating a non tolerant society by RSS, VHP & Bajrang Dal, on the basis of religion will have its own problems.
They keep on talking about Hindutva & Nationalism. One is not sure what they mean by Hindutva & Hinduism. They have not taken efforts to make the vast majorities to teach what exactly this Hinduism is. They are not interested in creating a just society. They want to create a society of one set of people dominating the other. This dominatinating theory comes from the same mind set of priviledged set up wherein very few within Hindus could dominate the vast masses of all the lower caste Hindus. To maintain that dominance, what these people did was keep the scriptures, religion, temple & education to themselves. That gave them great importance. Because they were successful in keeping all the other vast majority ignorant. Not only ignorant, but started considering them as filth. This mindset is not changed still. Whenever you find that some one tries to bring social equality, the people belonging to this group fight tooth & nail. The reservations issue is the recent one to ponder upon. The vast majority among Hindus would certainly like to be equal to these priviledged few. But they can not. Because their language is not as pure, their mannerism is not as good, their understanding of the issues is not as good as these people have. The vast majority does not know about the Vedas & Upanishads. So how come they know what Hinduism is ? Now, instead of making everyone understand Hinduism, they have started Hindutva, which they mean as making all Hindus militants.
While majority of the children of these priviledged people are in US earning in dollars, they talk of Hindutva & Nationalism here. They send the money to these organisations and these organisations use it to incite the same ignorant vast masses within Hinduism against muslims & christians. In order to avoid being called the enemies of the majority, these priviledged few have found this great method of painting the innocents in muslims & christians as National Enemies. If we need to make this Nation great, it can not be made by using such methods as painting the people of one religion as Anti Nationals and considering the few as ultra Nationalist. There is nothing Nationalist in them except hiding their cruelty by using such methods of inciting the people against other religions.
RE:The priviledged few
by hemant shukla on Apr 10, 2007 06:37 PM Permalink
Pranav, I am sorry to say that your entire comment aimed at bashing Sangh Parivar (RSS/VHP/Bajrang Dal) is flawed. You said that RSS is raising Outdated religious issues. Give one instance. RSS is a Social Organisation which has a prime objective of uniting the dis-arrayed Hindu Society in India. You said that Hindutva is terrorism. Supreme Court of India has dismissed this allegation of yours years back. The Supreme Court says that Hindutva is a Social Movement and not Terrorist. Whom should people believe, the Supreme Court or you my communist friend ????
RE:The priviledged few
by saby on Apr 10, 2007 06:49 PM Permalink
you are mentally backward.. this is century old chat with no backing.. did u ever went into any indian govt. offices you will only find Backward classes people at the helm.. so once they get all the jobs should we start kicking them and look for reservations for other classes because then they want it.. Grow up.. I fyou quote this all the time should we get reservation in English Institutions because they enslaved us for 300 years (its known fact unlike your brahmin bashing).. grow up man and start working .. dont try to get rewards without working.. Dont be an imbecile.. and dont create a generation of imbeciles
RE:The priviledged few
by Pranav on Apr 10, 2007 07:08 PM Permalink
We have kicked out British from our country. So we don't need to ask anything from them. But Brahmins are still here eating up most of the National resources (35 population eating 80% resources). I think you people also should be kicked out of this Nation to maintain undivided India. Otherwise you with the help of these rogue organisations will divide this Nation in many fragmentations by continuous poisoning.
RE:The priviledged few
by kameswarrao kottapali on Apr 10, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
If you are dead or a child is born in your family, then why you go for that stupid brahmin. Do all the karmas yourself. To get a brahmin birth, your soul has to purify and not this kind of anti-brahmin values. Our cates are based on our karmas and has nothing to do with inteligence. If the brahmins or other castes are succeeding in life it is because of their attitude and not because of their caste. Wake up my fellow Indian.
RE:The priviledged few
by pranav joshi on Apr 10, 2007 07:19 PM Permalink
Brahmins are eating what they are earning, they do not have reservation, nothing. So what manner they are eating without paying. Brahmins don't need reservation, Those who have brains will rule the world, See how Jews are ruling the world now.
Politicians are actually dividing country in different casts instead of uniting them. And people unaware of it are supporting them. Its really a shameful act of congress.
The above mentioned organisations were started by Brahmins to maintain their superiority by advertising themselves as Indians and crushing the aspirations of all others. The backward classes in India are more than 80% of Indian population. However, these 3% Brahmins are using more than 80% of Indian resources since centuries. Look at any private companies, any Banks, schools, the institutions like LIC, the post, the Indian Bureucracy. Everywhere you will find they have occupied themselves. And they want all others to work as their house maids or to clean the streets and sewerage etc. They can not tolerate the backwards to be with them in educational institutes or places of jobs. Hence they fight tooth & nail against any policies of the Govt. like reservations which are made to uplift the backwards. This majority of India, 80% of Indian population should keep away these forces like RSS, VHP, Bajrang Dal & BJP which can start implementing the MANU philosophy again.
RE:RSS/VHP/Bajrang Dal & BJP do not want the backwards to upgrade their life
by saby on Apr 10, 2007 06:48 PM Permalink
you are mentally backward.. this is century old chat with no backing.. did u ever went into any indian govt. offices you will only find Backward classes people at the helm.. so once they get all the jobs should we start kicking them and look for reservations for other classes because then they want it.. Grow up.. I fyou quote this all the time should we get reservation in English Institutions because they enslaved us for 300 years (its known fact unlike your brahmin bashing).. grow up man and start working .. dont try to get rewards without working.. Dont be an imbecile.. and dont create a generation of imbeciles
RE:RSS/VHP/Bajrang Dal & BJP do not want the backwards to upgrade their life
by pranav joshi on Apr 10, 2007 07:20 PM Permalink
Are you leaving in hell or on earth my dear? Which state do you belong to?
These nonsense organisations like RSS, VHP & Bajrang Dal are representing hardly 3% Brahmins. The same Brahmins who made the lives of all the backward classes miserable since centuries. The same Brahmins who blocked the way of all the masses from living the lives of a human. The same Brahmins who continuously bombard that backward classes are inferior and they are superior. Now that few of the backwards have got educated, thanks to the reservation policy, they understand how cunningly the vast masses were deprived of a life by these Brahmins. So, the backwards can not remain under the superiority of these 3% Brahmins anymore. Hence they have started to bring in some nonsense ideas of Hindutva.
They are very good at making propoganda. The very foundation of these organisations stand on utter lies. Their philosophy is keep on hammering the society with lies continuously and the society will start to believe. In recent years they have started propoganda against Muslims & Christians. Ask a three year child going to RSS and he will say that Muslims are terrorists and Christians are converting Hindus. These two sentences are being hammered in the society with such a ferocity that the small kids are talking the same without really knowing what is a muslim and what is a hindu or what is a christian. This propoganada is spread only by these rogue organisations who represent the 3% Brahmins. But they are vociferous as they were vociferous in their protests against the reservations. Offcourse not many believe in these organisations as they are exposed many times about their indulgence in spreading the false & malicious propoganda.
The new dimensions to terrorism were given by Hindu terrorists in Sri Lanka in the name of Tamil Tigers. Everyday Indian people are killed by Hindu terrorists in the form of Naxalites. Everyday, dangerous than terrorists, people like Moninder & Kohli kill so many innocents. They are Hindus. Moreover, Modi is not a muslim. Bush & Blair are no muslims. Hence, this nonsense propoganda of Muslims being terrorists is a mischief played by these 3% Brahmins.
Similar is the case with their other propoganda about Christians here are converting Hindus. The population of Christians in India is less than 2%. In every census, it is declining. How come it is not reflected in the census, if at all they are indulging in conversion. In fact, these 3% Brahmins made many of the backwards to leave Hinduism only because of the humiliating treatment given to the backwards. Ambedkar left Hinduism with lakhs & lakhs of his followers. As for spreading the teachings about the religion, it is done by all. Hinduism was taught by Vivekananda in US. Guruji Sri Sri Ravi Shankar is doing it all over the world. There are many Yogi's in many western countries spreading Hinduism.
In between they also make propoganda like Rahul Gandhi is a rapist, Mahatma Gandhi was a traitor, Nathuram Godse is a Hero, Nehru is glorified for giving IIT's to this Nation and at other occasions projected as a villain. So all these theories with tongue twisting and contradicting themselves for so many time goes on. As it is clear now, that the propoganda of these rogue organizations is a great mischief played by them, then one wonders what could be the real motive behind these dirty acts. Or is it that they are psycologically disturbed people because of losing power over Hinduism that they held for thousands of years by making the lives of all the masses worst than the beasts.
RE:Disturbed People
by Sharan Patil on Apr 10, 2007 06:24 PM Permalink
Well according to mandar RSS/VHP are terrorist, yes tell me how many bomb's they exploded? & he ask us to not to believe in conversation, when pope come to india in 2000, he asked to reap the harvest in Asia & india perticularly?? what he meant be harvesting.. is he doing farming here or growing mangoes? mandar he called for conversation ...
RE:Disturbed People
by commonman on Apr 12, 2007 03:44 PM Permalink
Well all these organizations are just looking for a small opporunity to dirupt the life of the people by stone peltin, riots, burning of buses... what do u call that? Civilian behaviour?
RE:Disturbed People
by commonman on Apr 12, 2007 04:27 PM Permalink
Well many times did the common man have to bear the brunt of these organizations because of the riots, stone peltin, bus buring etc. How can u call that civilised behaviour? Its called terrorism. If anyone tries tos pread the msg of peace, u have a prob wit it.. Thats a very narrow minded attitude
RE:RE:Disturbed People
by mandar on Apr 10, 2007 06:57 PM Permalink
They are dangerous than terrorists. They are poisoning the minds of people thus dividing this Nation. The same people killed the Mahatma. The same people incited and killed thousand of innocents in Gujarat. They say that it was a laboratory. So you can imagine what they want to do.
RE:Disturbed People
by hemant shukla on Apr 10, 2007 06:27 PM Permalink
PEOPLE BEWARE OF MANDAR !!!! HE IS A PAKISTANI !!! I HAVE SEEN SEVERAL OF HIS ANTI-INDIAN/ ANTI - HINDU REMARKS. He has on various occasions tried to prove that muslims are not terrorist. He is trying to create a divide on this forum. I know Indians are smart enough and will be able to figure it out !!!!
RE:Disturbed People
by mandar on Apr 10, 2007 06:35 PM Permalink
I am sure you have lost your senses by continuous brainwashing programme of RSS. You must have attended their Taliban classes right from childhood. Anybody who has different views is immediately labelled as Pakistani, or Christian or Muslim. Mr Shukla, as you are Brahmin and as your organisations are spreading the poison in this country to keep the superiority of Brahmins, I think you people are hell bent to divide this Nation again.
