Insted of all these hallas why dont the givernment do this
Divide 27% of India and give to it OBC and let them do anything with it.
Give 12% to SC ST and let them do anything with it
divide another 12% and give it to minorities and let them do anything with it.
Why do they want a logical division mixed up everywhere-Let it be physically.
Shame less creatures... What do they think of India...Is it their fathers property...And the general indian citizens does nothing but tolerate it and this encourages them to do more
RE:How about dividing INDIA again...This time Physically...
by CY BA on Apr 08, 2007 07:08 PM Permalink
instead... resetteled 3.5% of brahmins to other contries with good jobs and govt. money... so we can run India peacefully...
RE:How about dividing INDIA again...This time Physically...
by Muralidharan on Apr 08, 2007 07:17 PM Permalink
I think u r a crack. pls contact nearest doctor. Brahmins are the No.1 people who are protecting our country, and people like u ... are for no where
RE:How about dividing INDIA again...This time Physically...
by senthilvel kolangarai on Apr 08, 2007 07:45 PM Permalink
Brahmins are just 3% in population, but they are occupying approximately 80 to 85% of jobs in all Public sector banks and Public sector companies. Don't you think this is most unfair. To nullify this unbalance govt is proposing reservation for OBC s and SC& STs.I don't understand why you are opposing this good move by govt. It looks you are highly selfish
RE:RE:How about dividing INDIA again...This time Physically...
by glamdring on Apr 08, 2007 08:25 PM Permalink
senthilvel,cyba et al, yes, brahmins are just 3%, I agree 60 yrs ago there was discrimination. What about now ? after all these years of state sponsored anti-brahminism ? You guys any better ? no . Don't you think blaming Brahmins is an easy excuse for a) your utter lack of enterprise b) the failure of the govts elected by you to uplift the lower castes ? The evidence in TN is apparently many ppl have directly benefited by reservations, because the govt directly created/handed over jobs to people based on caste . But this has benefited mainly the so-called backward castes, many pallars and pariars, the SC/STs of TN still have not seen their communities develop. This is because, casteism is not just a brahmin institution, every other caste stomps over the one below it. In TN, as of now, Brahmins have ceased to be factor , but the zillions of caste parties are demanding their slice of pie, basically the reservation issue has become a runaway train.
As to why Brahmins are better - because its the ethos of our community, as a child if you are not good in studies you are considered a failure, if you we steal your jobs, you have to understand a basic point, it was never yours to startwith, we know the rules, we play by the rules, you change the rules to your favor, still we win, the bottomline is, appreciate our tenacity, and i know you don't us to be there anymore, so most of us have anyway moved out. But has the Brahmin exodus made you a better person ? you have to ask that question yourself.
RE:How about dividing INDIA again...This time Physically...
by Arvind on Apr 08, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
they hav got to tht position only by means of their merit...and not thru some begging... arent u confident tht the obc's can study and get there by their own merit?? cant u get anything by merit???dont u hav self respect? and what abt the poor?? how do u justify the creamy layer my selvi...
RE:How about dividing INDIA again...This time Physically...
by senthilvel.k.n on Apr 08, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
What I am trying to say here is inspite of all these reservation for several years, still brahmins occupy majority of jobs in Public sector banks and Public sector companies and this unproportionate respesentation in govt jobs should be removed at any cost
RE:How about dividing INDIA again...This time Physically...
by glamdring on Apr 08, 2007 09:18 PM Permalink
true, we need diversity along with the merit as a selection guideline for jobs, but the problem with a quota system is more complex.
Lets discuss us first in a) education and b) jobs.
Education: We have to start from the primary schools. Any kid has a chance to enter college only if he finishes up school. In TN this is the untold success story, thanks to Kamaraj and later MGR many children of lower class went to school and hence were able to aspire for higher education. quota in colleges is a joke, because if you have 3 lakh students taking 12th std exams then there needs to be at least 3 lakh college seats . We do have them, but what if everyone of them want to become an engineer or a doctor or a computer programmer ? we don't have enough seats. So the Govt cooks up a 70% reservation system, but which severly affects an average, poor upper caste kid ( while any average even rich/middle class lower class kid has the same seat reserved for him), which is a shame but still can be accepted for the "larger good".Okay. What about post-grad ? is there any reason for reservation? don't you think its dangerous for a surgeon to have got his degree because he was a lower caste dude and not necessarily a bright one ?
Jobs : You are running a business, for your money's worth, would you employ the best guy for the job or you'd fill it with someone just because he is lower caste . Or for that matter, would you promote someone because he is lower caste, even though you know he doesn't deserve the promotion . Basically there are various scenarios in jobs where a quota system seems to give a undue advantage for someone because of their caste. So in my opinion, there should be a guideline to companies to adhere to improve the diversity in the workplace, and of people really wanting to work in such companies . Along with merit, the HR should also be able to appreciate the persons's unique background . This is obviously not a new concept, its being followed in US with reasonable success.
RE:How about dividing INDIA again...This time Physically...
by CY BA on Apr 08, 2007 07:33 PM Permalink
True... its time to democratization of judiciary from it age old pro-upper-caste attitude%u2026
Well done... thank for protecting us...
Do you know that Tamil Brahmins are the 1st to received reservation from British to join them as Clarks?
Even British loosed the rules for total marks to from 60% to 35% to make Tamil Brahmins eligible to join there offices - against common men of India...
Tamil and Bengali Brahmins were the 1st traitors against Indians... they still live in British mindset..
RE:How about dividing INDIA again...This time Physically...
by Arvind on Apr 08, 2007 07:42 PM Permalink
u r ryt cYBA...when u knw tht u r wrng and u dnt knw how to prove ur point, u want the meritorious ppl to move away so tht illeterate ppl like u wud loot the country in the same way in which millions of ur fathers are doing ryt now sitting in the parliament...lol
why we are being divided ????????????? why u r hindu . he is muslim, why he is sc. he is st ? why he is OBC ... cause they have divided us .... i had read that there shall be no discrimination on the basis of caste color .. but this is discrimination only which is being started by politicians ... the general candidates dont like this policy so they are against reservation and people who are getting it ! the reserved persons dont like general ones cause they think they are jealous ... people are builiding hatred among themselves ...
started by politicians and suffered by all peoples !
dont we need a change now ???????? we are in 21st century ... we have power, energy , so much frustation in us
RE:pls read !~!~!~!!!
by urs somone on Apr 08, 2007 07:01 PM Permalink
come on ............. say something ??????? you all are critisizing acts on papers ...... its time to do something real .... which will have effect ! Big effect !
RE:pls read !~!~!~!!!
by CY BA on Apr 08, 2007 07:06 PM Permalink
hahah... yes please get dead issue like ram mandir in media to to divid india again...
RE:Separate statehood
by CY BA on Apr 08, 2007 07:02 PM Permalink
hahah -- because their caste philosophy is dying in India... how can you expect them to equals with others... they are agent of God (sorry gods 36cr)%u2026 may they will migrate to other country%u2026 to save India%u2026
Manmohansingh is a politician without power. The congress party is changing policies to grab the votes in the next election by wooing the minorieties. It's not good for the nation but good for the congress to stay in power. And puppets Manmohan and Arjun singh see the judiciary as a thorn in the foot. The chief justice must not budge. People of India must make Manmohansingh sit at home after the next election. Defeat the party leaders who take their orders from a former bartender/waitress and run the country.
Our politicians are now following the formula of english people i.e. divide and rull.Now the best formula for this thing is that we should now join hand with naxalites & AANTAKWAD & do not allow the politician to divide us
RE:India would never got independence from British
by Ram Sharma on Apr 08, 2007 06:57 PM Permalink
Do not compare judiciary of British raj with present judiciary. Because they were supposed to give verdict based on British law, which did not treat Indians as equal to Britishers. What do you want to say when you say "Judiciary represents meritocracy." Do you mean to say people with retarded merit should become judges? Are you mad?
RE:wow/ finally hijida singh make some nonsence statement
by Ramesh on Apr 08, 2007 06:44 PM Permalink
At last sardarji became a true politician.In India judiciary is the bestThese politicians for the sake of power will even the shit of a pig.Let sardarji advise his own politicians not to pass the comments about judiciary. Advise his partners to respect judiciary. He is the citizen of India not the son of Italy
RE:RE:wow/ finally hijida singh make some nonsence statement
by Ramesh on Apr 08, 2007 06:46 PM Permalink
Judiciary is the one makes India to raise high in the world of corruption. One man's food may be another man's poision. any verdict may be favorable to one and unfavorable to another. for that judiciary cannot be blamed
Brothers & Sisters of Bharat, Come on wake up do not waste time now. Lets make Hindu as one, without castes. So future generations will be proud to be called Hindu themselves. Get rid of this castes. Come together as one request our Acharyas to call everyone Hindu & stop caste.
RE:Dont overstep limits, PM tells judiciary
by CY BA on Apr 08, 2007 06:47 PM Permalink
hahaha.... when it come to truth... u call us Hindu... go to your village my dear friend and resettle dalits of your village in heart your village... if you sucssed i will surely join you to call every one Hindu...
RE:Dont overstep limits, PM tells judiciary
by Mukhtar Ali on Apr 08, 2007 07:07 PM Permalink
We are the largest community on Earth and growing worldwide.People all over the world is coverting to Islam because of simplicity.We are not minority in UP and in Eastern part of India-Bengal, Bihar,Assam and Tripura.We may not remain minority in India in near future.How does it matter whether we are minority?Politicians should not treat us as vote bank.Our community is educated even being illeterate.Donot play politics with Muslims.We are Indians.Our President is Muslim, PM is Sikh and head of the rulling party is an Italian catholic.Treat everyone at par.Donot do vote politics by showing some carrots
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by Muralidharan on Apr 08, 2007 07:14 PM Permalink
To Mr.Ali Than why dont u vote for BJP.. Can U , Do U have Dare to Vote for BJP, BJP Is the only party not divided country, in such a form , Congress is only party which divided our country in thousands of pieces, from past 60 years, still u muslim vote for them to divide further isnt it. If not than vote for BJP and prove that u r patriaotic.
RE:Dont overstep limits, PM tells judiciary
by Mukhtar Ali on Apr 08, 2007 07:19 PM Permalink
I am not against voting any party provided they respect and donot demonstrate hatred for Muslims at any given opportunity.
