Is it not ridiculous to call oursleves as SECULAR country when we have muslims, declared as MINORITIES, and that to when muslims are the 2nd major religion population in the whole world and we r almost double of the muslims of two of our muslim countries. Is there any reliogion called as Hindu, when u have sikhs, jains, buddists, Vaishnavs, Shaivaites, etec, etc calling themselves as separate from each other in religious beliefs .Shame on the polity of the nation which calls itself the most matured democracy when we still go to the polls on the basis of reliogion , castes and now mandal, OBC all sorts of divisive politics. What sort of nation we r where we allow our GODS to fight among themseleves day in day out for our shrt term gains. to hell with our secular credentials as a nation.
Seeing the series of events since India got freedom from Britishers and the current mindsets of politicians we are on the road to transforming India into a 'Islamic Republic of India'. While army is waging a loosing battle at the border states - thanks to our secular governments for helping the islamic terrorist gain upper hand. There is a serious threat from within the country thousands of illegal bangladesh and Pakistans are staying in India in places like Hyderabad, Mumbai, West bengal, Kerala, UP, Delhi, Northeastern states - thanks again to secular governments for minority appeasement programs. The current situation in India is no Hindu festival can be peacecul - we have seen muslims hurling stones at ganesh processions in Hyderabad every year. On Hanuman Jayanthi day Muslims hurled stones on Hindu procession. if we talk about these it is illegal.
By 2050 our politicians will make India a true 'Islamic Republic of India'
Munna: aye circuit ye kya ho raha hai? akkha country ke public ke dimag ka waat lag gaya hai.. Circuit: Bhai waat nahi durghati... Munna: ye saala public samjhte kyon nahi... achcha hua aaj bapu zinda nahi hai yaar.. wo hota to ye public ko dekhke marr jaata.. zindagi bhar sikha kar gaya wo ahimsa nahi karneka... lekin ye saale log samjhte kyon nahi... mere dimag mein saala chemical locha hai lekin ye log ko tho bhagwan ne dimakh diya hai... Circuit: Bhai abhi apun aagaya hai yahan pe ek ek karke sab kii waat lagayega... tension nahi leneka bhai...
Despite all the intense, blatant attack on Islam and Muslims, Islam continues to thrive and grow as the fastest religion across the globe. More people convert to Islam by a much larger margin than when compared to any other faith. Islam is the fastest growing faith in Europe and several projections suggest that Europe will be an Islamic continent by 2050 or earlier. The signs of military victory for Islam are appearing all over the world and the greatest militaries on Earth are proving no match! Despite all the rants and ravings and insults (which often times emerge from ignorance) against Islam and Muslims, they are the emerging winners. This century is looking increasingly Islamic, like it or not! Maybe after all, Truth Triumphs!!
This is the first time, Islam is being openly challenged. When Mohummad and Quran were questioned in "RANGEELA RASUL", followers of Islam murdered the author.
Today even women spit on Islam. Wafa Sultan's interview to Al Jazeera was among the first nails in the coffin that God has prepared for Islam.
1000 years ago majority people believed the Earth to be the cente of solar system. Minority of people believed the contrary. So numbers dont have much meaning. It is truth which matters. And fortunately far more people believe Islam to be evil. Evil Islam is no truth and is condemned to the coffin.
Educate yourself on Islam. www.faithfreedom.org, a website managed by ex muslims is the way to Go.
May God save you from the evil totalitarian faith of mohummadeanism.
I%u2019ve been reading a lot of posts in this board regarding Muslims. I do not understand why it hurts people so much when we offer Namaz, read Quran, go to a madarsah.
Many among the people who post in Rediff do not understand what Islam is and what Quran is. They simply read some Muslim bashing messages and believe all the crap that is written particularly about Quran and Prophet Muhammad(Pbuh). Dude if you really think that Quran is a piece of crap why don%u2019t you try to read and find out what it actually tells. It is not a property of Muslims. It is for the Mankind. 99% of the verses of Quran that people quote in Rediff are manipulated to suit the author%u2019s objective of Islam bashing and many others are quoted out of context. Many baseless stories are written about Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) which are purely a creation of a useless idle mind.
I NEVER post any abusive stuff about any of the Hindu Gods or for that matter I don%u2019t abuse any religion. My blood boils when some one writes all sorts of crap about Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh). But still I never post any abusive stuff about any other God in retaliation because this is not what Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) taught.
Comon dude we live in India, we eat the same as Indians do, breath the same air, drink the same water; it is only that we have a different ideology of life. If you do not understand why we do this or why we do that try to read Quran and find out. It is the encyclopedia of the Islam and I am sure you will find more important stuff to read other than %u201Ckilling the Non Muslims.%u201D More importantly you will find out that all these people do in the name of Jihad and Islam is all crap. They are lunatics. Islam has never preached violence nor is Quran a %u201Cterrorist manual%u201D.
Every religion has its own identity. If u think that every one should discard their culture and accept what you people think is right, then u are utterly mistaken. We tend to forget that this is practically impossible. Come on dude who would want to discard his cultural identity and accept some other culture?
There are some people who think that the purpose of their life is to plainly ridicule things that they don%u2019t believe in. If you don%u2019t know why someone's following something, then it doesn't mean they are wrong and you are right. If u r humble brave and are knowledgeable, then try to debate rather than ridiculing. You'll be at peace with your self in the long run.
RE:Myths that people believe about Islam
by rashmi srivastava on Apr 07, 2007 07:24 AM Permalink
You make perfect sense Azhar. This is the biggest problem of India. We are full of prejudices without lack of knowledge about others. Its not just religion but caste, language, region etc. etc. Probably someday we will learn to respect basic human rights. Then only we will be an actual democracy.
RE:Myths that people believe about Islam
by ravishankar singh on Apr 07, 2007 07:11 AM Permalink
my friend azhar, your approach is some how moderate.see the views of above of mr.abc. the problem is not prophet mohammad,quran and to live peacefully with his teachings. problems lies with views what above mr. abc said. the views of abc reflects the views of armed jehadi terrorist, who can not tolerate the other community to live. see all over the worl whereever the numbers of muslims increase the armed separatist activites starts. whether in kashmir,checheniyea etc. you moderates feel that other community is hating muhammdans. no we are not hating moderate mohammdans , but we do criticise them that they are living with us but the moderates do not come to join hands openly to oppose the jehadi ideology who shed hatred separatism. hindus very much join hands to oppose violently fanatics within hinduism like tista seetalwad, mulayamsingh and many others. but none from your community actively join hands to oppose these jehadis who are killing hindus and other community in the name of islam. let me know how you moderates alignate with these jehadis? general feeling is that you moderates also silently support these jehadis by not opposing them.
RE:Myths that people believe about Islam
by Perv Sharma on Apr 07, 2007 06:12 AM Permalink
Funny - You yourself are admitting that "you will find more important stuff to read other than killing the Non Muslims" .
You are admitting that your Quran states killing of Non-muslims. So, U live in India U say. Is there any other religion than your Quran that says kill people who don't follow that Particular Religion.
Regarding India - the Parsis knew that hindus are tolerant of other religions and that is why when Islam spread by sword in Persia, most of them decided to take refuge in India. Hindus gave them land and they have lived today peacefully following their religion without Fear.
Regarding why everyone is not understanding your true Quran as you say - is because you have already given the answer " there are more things in Quran other than killing the Non Muslims". Look at Kashmir where the Muslims are in a majority and they have driven away the minority Hindus to live as refugees in Hindu Majority India. Did U ever ask yourself why your Muslims brother have done it. So, don't pose questions to others rather to yourself.
RE:Myths that people believe about Islam
by Sameer on Apr 07, 2007 06:35 AM Permalink
kya sharma bhai kya kuch bhi haan? how many muslims do you personally know to talk like this about us? please stop this man.... It hurts really.
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by Md Shafiuddin on Apr 07, 2007 06:24 AM Permalink
there is no stopping arguments man... why dont we people stop this year.. I have been begging people to cut this crap of hatredness... come-on if partition happened its happend.. what can a true peace loving indian muslim can do about it now? seeing hatredness for us here I feel so bad... I always thought all indians treat others equally... but that does not seem to be the case here... bad people are there in every community but why to generalize it to everyone.. i have not came across any bad person of any community in my life time so far.. all are good to me... but here story seems to be different... people are ready to kill each other here given the chance...
RE:Myths that people believe about Islam
by shams tabrez on Apr 07, 2007 06:45 AM Permalink
No,man .... leave other things behind.... let's not talk about heinous acts done by Muslims in Iraq,bangladesh,J&K or by Dukhtaran-e-millat. But QURAN,for sure,never says to kill non muslims. and answer me one question. Had there been no religion,ppl wud not have killed each other?? Yes, they wud.... Problem is our animal instict lineage.What about our great Indian politicians.They are there safe and innocent ppl in Nandigram were killed......... dekho bhai mera ek simple funda hai... agar religion nahi to colour sahi.. matlab koi na koi bada reason hoga aapke paas hamesha ek doosre ko marne ke liye... aur nahi to aap finally apne sage bhai ka khoon karenge.... ye ek individual ki psychology hai..... by the way enjoy the day.......
RE:Myths that people believe about Islam
by Shivkumar Singh on Apr 07, 2007 07:28 AM Permalink
We know how Muslims treated Hinduism, when islam was ruling India. We also understand how you will treat Hinduism and Hindus should God Forbid, India becomes Islamic. Followers of the totalitarian ideology of Islam have got a far better deal in India thanks to Hindu tolerance compared to what Muslims provided to Hindus.
Muslims are pampered lot...as some Rasheed has written somewhere in messages to prove the low growth among muslims...
Go check out population growth rate for Hindu and Muslim from 1991 to 2001...Avg muslim family has 6-7 kids and hindus have smaller families...thus can feed and educate kids better...Max muslim kids go to Madrasas...Now noone becomes doc/eng/scientist there...and how many can make living as Ulema...
Why should Republic of India feed a particular community from taxes I pay...everyone should work hard, find ways to solve their problems insttead of begging before courts...IF I cannot feed my family I do not go and beg the goverment//
RE:Well...why feed one community from taxes I pay...
by rohit raghav on Apr 07, 2007 04:15 AM Permalink
all this support to minority institutions is against spirit of secularism...I do not understand in first place why there will be religin based schools funded by government...
Yes, Hindus have schools (I studied at DAV for few years) and other such fine chains of educational institutions, but these stand on their own merit, quality and what they give to society...there religion is taught from moral educations perspective...not for creating fanatics...focus is on creating better humans not creating better Hindus...
RE:% of Hindus and muslims
by rohit raghav on Apr 07, 2007 04:20 AM Permalink
sanjeev...couldn't be more accurate in your idea...check my next message, I believe the same...
Muslims do have good people but centuries of Mughal rule over India has made them genetically unfit for peaceful coexistence...they need to reinvent themselves... First they BREED, then they cannot FEED, they study at RELIGIOUS Schools, then need sustainenace from government...cannot get jobs (all cannot be Ulemas)...those whoe bcomes Ulemas make sure others do not study or grow...then they plead for more money to teach religion to provide more free education to kids and education which puts them further into poverty...
